|05-12-2013 01:53 AM|
Here's a link for a nice custom LJ for sale:
FOR SALE: 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited LJ - YouTube
|12-17-2012 01:15 AM|
|12-16-2012 10:03 PM|
|bandman||Pro: I can fit two full size tubas in the back and close the gate!|
|12-14-2012 02:37 PM|
Recommending to someone to disconnect both of their sway bars is poor practice. Learn what they actually do before making such a bad recommendation. I'm not a fan of disconnecting the front sway bar, let alone both.
You're actually a fan of one of the top ten worst designs ever created? Because that's what I would call the three piece sway bar links. Two pins = two sets of holes to line up. If you're going to hamper yourself by running the stock front sway bar with quick disconnect links, at least make it easy on yourself. The rear should remain connected with correct-length solid links.
|12-14-2012 01:54 PM|
I am able to go full articulation with my anti-sway bars disconnected. Front and rear. I have double pin sway bar disconnects on the front and rear that allow me to simply remove the pins and remove the center rod of the sway bar disconnects. I prefer this design over the ones that only allow one pin to be removed.
The Metal Cloak fenders allow the front end to max out on the bump stops and still not get into the body. I run the recommended bump stops for my shock length. The rear doesn't really seem to have any issues either. I wheel pretty hard and don't have any rubbing problems.
Metal Cloak fenders are pretty pricey. You may try a body lift to reduce the rubbing problem. I don't really know much about that though. I haven't ever done a body lift.
I hope this helps.---Ladderslug
|12-13-2012 09:54 AM|
both TJ and LJ are badass's.
Pro is the extra room if you need it especially if you don't own a pick up plus they are rare and in years to come they will be worth some good cash compared to TJ's.
Con for me is I'm not the greatest when it comes to longer vehicles.. had bad experiences with trucks and plus it won't fit in my small garage lol.
|12-13-2012 08:38 AM|
|Imped||You make it sound like bump stops are a bad thing. They're an integral part of your suspension and need to be adjusted properly, given your constraints. If you want more up usable up travel, do what it takes. That involves a lot more than just running shorter bump stops.|
|12-13-2012 07:56 AM|
|12-12-2012 12:07 PM|
Bump stops. Yours aren't set right.
|12-12-2012 12:04 PM|
|12-12-2012 11:33 AM|
|12-12-2012 10:26 AM|
You are really reaching.
|12-11-2012 09:17 PM|
|Powder Monkey||Still a fan|
|12-11-2012 09:11 PM|
|12-11-2012 05:54 PM|
|D2K47||I can't imagine any cons for a tj that would get me to think twice not to get it, wish Jeep made lj's in the 90's ... Boy did they snooze or what?|
|12-11-2012 03:27 PM|
|12-11-2012 03:05 PM|
All pros for me. I've only had mine for almost a year and I love it. I do like the 4door Jk's better but I couldn't afford it at the time. I didn't even know what a lj was either at the time of purchase. I love having extra room inside. Here's a pic.
|12-11-2012 01:54 PM|
But After a 3" lift along with 33x12.5 tires, she has a completely different personality.
Pros... I have 3 large dogs, with a 4th on the way, and they all fit comfortably. Shopping trips are not a problem if I need to get something large. The looks I get because she is not common.
Cons... She has a big a$$. (But that is OK, I am an a$$ man). Gas mileage. Parts can sometimes be hard to find or more costly. Because she is not common.
|12-11-2012 12:41 PM|
The LJ aesthetics improve drastically once you get some air under the belly, some tire under it and some width. The ass end behind the tires is still way too much for me personally but it can definitely be remedied.
A prime example
|12-11-2012 12:29 PM|
I don't own a LJ, but do own a 2003 TJ X and A 2012 jk Rubicon, but I have driven my friends LJ Rubicon back in the woods and some rock crawl. I will give you a honest evaluation, of which some won't agree with, but that's O.K. We are here to advise one another on our experiences and opinions, but the intent is not to hurt any body's feeling, but rather just good constructive conversation! If there are some that don't like my choice of a TJ X and a JK Rubicon well that's also O.K.
So for the LJ, well it depends on your main goal, is it appearance, functionality, or both?
Let's talk about appearance. To me it is too long and narrow and reminds me of something that you would see in a funeral procession, I believe that it is called a Hurst. The bottom line is geometrically it looks out of proportion and is not very pleasing to the eye, this is why I didn't purchase one, but there are a lot of them for sale on craig's list in my area. You may ask, well what about your JK, because it is also longer, yes it is but it is also wider more geometrically in proportion.
Now let's talk about the pluses, if functionality is your main goal, then it is very hard to beat! 4.0 engine, Dana 44 rear, not much of a driveline vibration issue when lifting, because of the longer drive shaft, much smoother ride than a TJ, more stability, more cargo space and finally just plainly more comfortable to ride in for both you and your passenger.
Good Luck in your decision!!!
|12-10-2012 11:09 PM|
|12-10-2012 10:01 PM|
|02-29-2012 09:17 PM|
[QUOTE= But valuable to jeepers in the north.[/QUOTE]
I have a soft top up in Montana It does just fine
|02-29-2012 05:11 PM|
Enough Said! It's BADASS.
|02-29-2012 04:39 PM|
|badtux||Another thing I'll point out, pro the LJ vs. a new JK, is that the LJ is a better off-road vehicle. The only thing hanging down under a LJ is the "shovel" and the gas tank, and both can be tucked up higher. And the space under the rockers on even a mildly lifted LJ is pretty impressive and you can put real body-mounted rocker guards on the thing. The JK has a big-a$$ gas tank hanging down on the passenger side belly of the Jeep and it CANNOT be tucked up because there's a frame member *ABOVE* it. The frame rails on the JK are taller and moved to the outside of the Jeep to make room for the gas tank inside the frame rails, so there's almost *no* space under the rockers. Because of the boat-like curved shape of the sides of a JK and the very thin/flimsy sheetmetal used on the JK body, there is not a single body-mount rocker guard that'll survive the Hammers without causing body sheetmetal damage, folks who run JK's in that environment typically use frame-mount LoD or Shrockworks rocker guards, meaning even *less* clearance under the rockers. So if you're intending to build an *offroad* rig, and you can't deal with the TJ because of its hobby-horse ride and short wheelbase and tiny interior, the LJ is a good choice indeed. Though I'll point out that even a stock LJ Sport rides rougher and has a more-jiggly ride than a *short* wheelbase JK... the JK is an awesome road steed, far better than the LJ. But offroad? My old LJ Sport with 32" tires could outdo a JK Rubicon with much better "on paper" stats with just the addition of a front Aussie Locker on the LJ. And I know this from *personal* experience, yo!|
|02-29-2012 04:29 PM|
Pro: Big ass
Con: Big ass
|02-29-2012 04:24 PM|
|02-29-2012 11:52 AM|
|Rusty762||Just repeating everything thats already been said. I spent the last year researching a rig that I could occasionally DD but that would be a good trail rig. I have owned FJ 40 landcruisers but wanted some more street worthy. Have had a YJ but short wheelbase and leaf springs left a little to be desired on road. I searched for a 2005-2006 TJ Unlimited Rubicon for about 3 months until I found one with low miles (10,000) and in pristine stock condition. Now the mods begin, I believe it is one of the most capable off road rigs you can currently buy and if built right can serve as a DD.|
|02-29-2012 11:24 AM|
|02-28-2012 08:55 PM|
|jgorm||I've had a TJ and now a LJ rubicon. The only con is that its a bit more tricky to get into really really tight spaces, but it hasn't caused me any issues yet, just another few seconds. Other than that its 10x better! The extra room makes it useable with passengers. I went snowboarding with 4 adults and that is something my TJ never could have done. You can fit a real cooler in the trunk area. When I bought my TJ I thought the unlimited was the model with power stuff and leather so I didn't even look at them. After I knew jeeps better I saw the extra length and trunk space and was kicking myself for not buying on.|
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