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11-07-2006 06:06 PM
jkb1441 So will i have to upgrade anyhting else with 33's and a 4' lift?

What about the gears?
Will the spedo still read right?

Any other side affects?




Thanks
Jake
11-07-2006 08:31 AM
osbornl1 there aftermarket american racing's with 3.75 in backspacing.

i dont think you could run with stock rims and tires that wide. the rear spring perch would need to be grinded down a little to keep from cutting your tire.
11-06-2006 08:16 PM
revreed
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Originally Posted by osbornl1
i can tell you that those wheels look like 15x10's and if you decide to run 15x8's they wont stick out as far being the wheel is more narrow. i have 15x8's 3.75 bs and 32x11.50's here is a pic to give you an idea of it sticking out. they are about 1 in past the fender flairs. its the best one i got right now.
Are those stock TJ rims or are they some kinda aftermarket with different backspacing? I would like to hear from someone with stock rims and 32x11.5's, with a 2" BB.
11-06-2006 07:46 PM
osbornl1 i can tell you that those wheels look like 15x10's and if you decide to run 15x8's they wont stick out as far being the wheel is more narrow. i have 15x8's 3.75 bs and 32x11.50's here is a pic to give you an idea of it sticking out. they are about 1 in past the fender flairs. its the best one i got right now.
11-06-2006 07:08 PM
jkb1441 Ok ive done some research around here and i think that im going ot hold off on the sye and cv for now. I will only be using it for a DD and will upgrade later.



(not mine i just like the looks of the wheels)

This is kind of what i want it to look like with the wheels sticking out a little. 33x12.5 BFGs will get me this right? With 3 3/4 they will stick out a little like this right?
11-06-2006 11:04 AM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by jkb1441
Nice!

Ok so any advice on which one to get...I'm kinda or a budget here so saving moey would be great.

If I get a slip yoke and cv driveshaft will that solve all my problems? And I won't have to worry about it vibrating or anything?

The list just keeps gotting longer and longer and more expensie

Thanks
Jake
the sye (slip yoke eliminator) and cv driveshaft will solve all your driveline vibration problems. i'd just make sure that when you lift it everything like the trackbar is tight. some lifts come with trackbar brackets or some people get adjustable trackbars. either way just check it or you could end up death wobblin' down the highway

look, i run the bfg muds and i love them. they are great on the trail and great on the road. and they are cheaper than mtr's. i'm not sure how much toyo's are so i can't say if they are cheaper than them

your right, it does keep getting more expensive but its worth it!
11-06-2006 06:13 AM
Texapple
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Originally Posted by jkb1441
Nice!

Ok so any advice on which one to get...I'm kinda or a budget here so saving moey would be great.

If I get a slip yoke and cv driveshaft will that solve all my problems? And I won't have to worry about it vibrating or anything?

The list just keeps gotting longer and longer and more expensie Thanks
Jake

that's how it works
11-06-2006 05:23 AM
jkb1441 Nice!

Ok so any advice on which one to get...I'm kinda or a budget here so saving moey would be great.

If I get a slip yoke and cv driveshaft will that solve all my problems? And I won't have to worry about it vibrating or anything?

The list just keeps gotting longer and longer and more expensie

Thanks
Jake
11-05-2006 10:53 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by amerijeep
The problem is when people offer opinion and have zero experience with what they are talking about. If you don't know first hand, then you should shut the hell up.

Pardon my directness, but this is the root of much of the break down in rereliable forum data.
I agree, Enough of the I heard stuff
11-05-2006 04:45 PM
amerijeep The problem is when people offer opinion and have zero experience with what they are talking about. If you don't know first hand, then you should shut the hell up.

Pardon my directness, but this is the root of much of the break down in rereliable forum data.
11-05-2006 02:48 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by jkb1441
Again thanks everone for the help

*I'm either going to go for Toyo or BFG TA 33's

*For wheels I'm not exactly shure waht brand yet but 3 3/4 and 5x8 (Whats the diff b/w 5x5.5? just wondering)

*For a lift kit I need 4" and was thinking about this one
....... http://www.quadratec.com/products/16207_018.htm


Will I have to worry about the slip yoke or anything like that?


These are my last few questions!!!!

Thanks Again
Jake
you don't HAVE to get a slip yoke and cv driveshaft but you will definitely want to. when you get to 4" of lift the driveshaft is short enough to where it can pull out of the t case or jam in it. the t case lowering kit will help reduce vibes but won't help with the driveshaft. it also lowers the skid plate which means less clearance and they are pretty ugly. some people get vibes with the 4" and some don't. either way though you will definitely want a sye and cv driveshaft.

the difference between 5x5.5 and 5x4.5 is the amount of distance between the lugs. you cannot buy a 5x5.5 wheel because the wheels holes where they mount on the jeep are too far apart and will not fit the jeep. in other words you HAVE to get a 5x4.5 for it to fit. otherwise the holes are too far apart and they will not fit on your jeep
11-05-2006 02:44 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by Nick
bigjeep isnt wrong. I have run many different tires including mtr's. There only flaw is they dont self clean mud very well. Other then that they are a great tire.
that is the only flaw i have heard about them also.
11-05-2006 02:22 PM
jkb1441 Nice

sent you a pm chilli!
11-05-2006 01:58 PM
ChilliRed Thats the same lift kit I have haha if you want a pic to see how it looks i could PM you one. The lift is working out for me very well, however i do have an SYE and OME shocks. I think you will be fine with the driveline because it lowers your transfercase. Only words of advise i could give you is if you are planning on fixing the jeep up more and off roading it then you may want to get a kit that has stuff in it that you will end up buyin anyway (ie. swaybar discos, trac bars, maybe the eight conrol arms since this kit only comes with the front 2) Then again my jeep is doing just fine witout all that stuff so you dont really need to spend the extra money. If this is your first jeep or you just want to start off with something that can perform on the trails and still handle well on the street then i support your choice with the lift kit 4 sure
11-05-2006 12:22 PM
jkb1441 Again thanks everone for the help

*I'm either going to go for Toyo or BFG TA 33's

*For wheels I'm not exactly shure waht brand yet but 3 3/4 and 5x8 (Whats the diff b/w 5x5.5? just wondering)

*For a lift kit I need 4" and was thinking about this one
....... http://www.quadratec.com/products/16207_018.htm


Will I have to worry about the slip yoke or anything like that?


These are my last few questions!!!!

Thanks Again
Jake
11-05-2006 09:53 AM
ChilliRed Someone very wise once told me on forums you will get many opinions... you have to do your best to figure out whats best for you, looking at many peoples opinions who have had the tires rather than just two will help you do just that

Also with the backspacing deal... now im not sure with this so hopefully someone will chime in, but if you really like your stock rims wheel spacers may solve your problem with tire rub. For about $200 it might be something you want to consider
11-05-2006 09:42 AM
Scoob whatever you say
11-05-2006 09:31 AM
Nick bigjeep isnt wrong. I have run many different tires including mtr's. There only flaw is they dont self clean mud very well. Other then that they are a great tire.
11-04-2006 09:00 PM
mrbigjeep i didn't say that. i said whatever you say. i didn't say you were wrong did i?
11-04-2006 08:53 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by bigjeep
whatever you say
WOW, everybody that doesnt buy into your way of thinking (which is seriously flawed) must be wrong huh?
11-04-2006 08:46 PM
mrbigjeep whatever you say
11-04-2006 08:45 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by bigjeep
they probably didn't go the the bfg's cause of complaints. they don't care about complaints. they probably went with them cause there cheaper! save some money!
DC does fairly well at listening to its owners. It's how they came up with the rubi having lockers, bigger tires and other things. They listened to what people were asking for and changed the things that people didnt like. Cost of tires and other things just get passed on to the consumer. If the BFG cost more they could have passed it on as well. You would never notice a 25 dollar difference due to tire cost when buying a new Jeep.
11-04-2006 08:11 PM
mrbigjeep they probably didn't go the the bfg's cause of complaints. they don't care about complaints. they probably went with them cause there cheaper! save some money!
11-04-2006 06:08 PM
Scoob
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Originally Posted by bigjeep
the BFG AT's are good but the tire shop is full of crap. Mtr's should actually do good on the road. if they were so bad on the road then i don't think that they would have put them stock on the 06 and older rubicons. i've heard of many people getting long life/mileage out of them and having a good ride that is also quiet. toyo tires are fine also. heard a lot of good things about them. they are similar to the Mtr's. not the same but similar. they will be fine on the road too. the BFG muds are probably not quite as good on the road as an Mtr and i drive my bfg muds on the road with no problems whatsoever. if anything the mtr's will be better on the road
The MT/r's are total crap for a road or all around tire. Many tires costing less will outperform them, be cheaper and quieter. You will notice that the new rubi's went to a BFG MT. I bet due to all the complaints of the MT/r. IMO one of the worst tires I have ever owned. They may be great for somebody who lives in the dry rocky area's. But if you drive in rain, snow and mud the are next to worthless. I would go with most anything that has the sipes built in. Like the toyo's, Cooper STT's, Mickey Thompson MTZ's or go with a all tertain tire like trhe supurb BFG AT/KO which is a fantastic road tire and still does fairy well offraod.
11-04-2006 05:43 PM
mrbigjeep the BFG AT's are good but the tire shop is full of crap. Mtr's should actually do good on the road. if they were so bad on the road then i don't think that they would have put them stock on the 06 and older rubicons. i've heard of many people getting long life/mileage out of them and having a good ride that is also quiet. toyo tires are fine also. heard a lot of good things about them. they are similar to the Mtr's. not the same but similar. they will be fine on the road too. the BFG muds are probably not quite as good on the road as an Mtr and i drive my bfg muds on the road with no problems whatsoever. if anything the mtr's will be better on the road
11-04-2006 03:22 PM
jkb1441 Awesome thanks bigjeep!!


Now heres the problem. I was just told by the tire shop and some ppl that the Goodyear Mt/r wasnt a tire you could use on the road and was only off road. And I was also told that toyo tires and not quality and not very good. What do you guys think about this.

If its mostly a DD and I want to do good in snow should I just go 33X12.5 BFG TA ko?

Or should I drop the big bucks for the toyos?
11-03-2006 07:49 AM
mrbigjeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkb1441
So if i got a wider wheel would they not rub? So say for example i wanted these wheels....http://www.quadratec.com/products/92800_00X_PG.htm..... what size of them would I have to get in order for my tires not to rub?

Theses are what you use for the backspacing right? http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...g&submit=Go%21 (cant you buy the wheel with the proper backspacin already tho?)



Bigjeep im goning to have to start to pay you money for answering all my questions. Thanks again, Jake
yes a wider wheel would keep it from rubbing as long as it has the right backspacing. backspacing is gonna determine whether it rubs or not. if your gonna run 33x12.50's then you can run a 15x8 or a 15x10. the bolt pattern is 5x4.5 and 4" or less backspacing would be good. i see that they have 3 3/4 and that is fine.

i think you still have backspacing a little confused. every wheel has a certain amount of backspacing. you would buy a spacer to use with a stock wheel. the reason for that is because the stock wheels have a high backspacing (which keeps it closer to the vehicle) so you would need the spacer to get it out from the vehicle so that the added width of the tires wouldn't rub when you turned. that is why you get new wheels. if you get wheels with the correct backspacing then it will set the wheels farther from the jeep and keep the added width of the tire from rubbing when turned. in other words, if you get the right backspacing fot the wheel in that link you gave me (3 3/4 is good) then you don't need a spacer cause its already settin it out (just like a spacer would do) because of less backspacing. you don't need a spacer with this wheel. just get the 4" or less backspacing and 5x4.5 bolt pattern and 15x8 or 15x10 and you'll be good to go. remember a 15x10 will stick out more.

no problem. i don't mind tryin to help ya. got any more questions, just ask.
11-03-2006 04:51 AM
jkb1441 haha hey i just aprecaite you guys helpin this newbie out!

Now back to those question!!!!
11-03-2006 12:01 AM
Texapple
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Originally Posted by jkb1441


Bigjeep im goning to have to start to pay you money for answering all my questions. Thanks again, Jake
11-02-2006 10:47 PM
jkb1441
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Originally Posted by bigjeep
you'll rub for sure. and i wouldn't run them on a 15x8. it is recommended that the width of the wheel be within 4 inches of the tire width. you don't "buy" backspacing lol. you can get some kind of adapter or spacer to fit the tire on the back but the tailgate can bend/crack over time from the exta weight
So if i got a wider wheel would they not rub? So say for example i wanted these wheels....http://www.quadratec.com/products/92800_00X_PG.htm..... what size of them would I have to get in order for my tires not to rub?

Theses are what you use for the backspacing right? http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...g&submit=Go%21 (cant you buy the wheel with the proper backspacin already tho?)



Bigjeep im goning to have to start to pay you money for answering all my questions. Thanks again, Jake
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