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01-22-2009 09:04 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by tiny terror View Post
I'm wondering if you guys understand the plague has always been around and there have been outbreaks all over the world. I believe Colorado recently had an outbreak.

Their lack of basic medical supplies and sanitary habits is what killed them.
The disease that's been around since the middle ages, and in fact, long before, isn't an artificially manipulated pathogen.
I'm no doctor but from what I understand, the excuse the vaccine makers give for the failure of the flu vaccine every year is slight differences in the genetic makeup of the current strain of the disease. If slight, natural deviations in a common virus such as the flu can stump our best and brightest then I for one think there's room for concern about a possible artificially altered organism.

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40 al-Qaeda terrorists dead after exposure to the plague: report

Peter Goodspeed, National Post
Jan 20, 2009

Seven years after they transformed George W. Bush's presidency, al-Qaeda terrorists are pushing to the top of his successor's priority list.

The very day Barack Obama was sworn in as President, warning Americans "our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred," there were reports an al-Qaeda affiliate recently abandoned a training camp in Algeria after 40 terrorists died from being exposed to the plague during a biological weapons test.

The report, which first surfaced in the British tabloid newspaper The Sun, claims members of al-Qaeda in the Land of the Maghreb (AQLIM) hurriedly abandoned their cave hideouts in Tizi Ouzou province, 150 kilometres east of the Algerian capital Algiers, after being exposed to plague bacteria.

The newspaper said they apparently became infected while experimenting with biological weapons.

Algerian security forces discovered the body of a dead terrorist alongside a road near the abandoned hideout.

U.S. intelligence officials, speaking anonymously to the Washington Times newspaper on Tuesday, could only confirm the sudden base closure after an unconventional weapons test went wrong.

The officials said they intercepted an urgent communication in early January between the AQLIM leadership and al-Qaeda's top leaders in the tribal region of Pakistan. The Algerian terrorists said they were abandoning and sealing off a training area after a leak of a chemical or biological substance.

AQLIM, once known as the Salfist Group of Call & Combat, is one of the most radical and violent Islamist groups operating in North Africa. It has ties to Moroccan terrorists who carried out the 2004 Madrid train bombings and bombed the UN headquarters in Algiers in 2007, killing 41 people.

There are two types of plague. Bubonic plague, which is spread by bites from infected rat fleas, killed a third of Europe's population in the 14th century but can now be treated with antibiotics. Pneumonic plague is less common but more deadly. It is spread, like the flu, by airborne bacteria, and can be inhaled and transmitted between humans without the involvement of animals or fleas.

For years, U.S. Defence Department officials have warned al-Qaeda operatives have been actively pursuing sophisticated biological weapons research.

News of the latest al-Qaeda threat broke as two million people crowded into Washington's National Mall to witness the inauguration of Mr. Obama. It also came four days after Mike McConnell, U.S. director of national intelligence, said Osama bin Laden's third-eldest son and heir apparent, Saad, has been released from house arrest in Iran.

The 27-year-old, who was groomed by his father to assume a leadership role in al-Qaeda, had been detained since after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

U.S. intelligence forces say during his detention, Saad bin Laden was allowed to continue to operate. He played a prominent role in ordering a 2002 suicide bombing of a Jewish synagogue in Tunisia, commanded a series of bombings that killed 45 people in Casablanca, Morocco, in May, 2003, and sent suicide car bombers who killed 35 people in Riyadh, also in May, 2003.

During his final news briefing of the Bush administration, Mr. McConnell said Saad bin Laden is now "probably in Pakistan."

His departure could signal a new relationship between Iran and al-Qaeda, but it might also suggest al-Qaeda is moving to consolidate its leadership in territory under its control in Pakistan.

By expelling senior al-Qaeda members, Iran might also be trying to clear the decks for a new relationship with Mr. Obama's administration.

National Post
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/story.html?id=1199042
01-22-2009 08:31 PM
distortedtj Oh YES... Cain didn't you love taking all the Dang pills.

I HATE TAKING PILLS!
01-22-2009 08:15 PM
tiny terror
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Originally Posted by amy View Post
Yes, I know it never went away and why it was so devastating in the middle ages and why it killed these guys. I know that it's not really much of a threat in developed countries. I was just thinking about our guys over there that might be exposed to it. Thank you, Ccain, for the info.

I figured you had to, I seem to remember you and Skeet being involved in some medieval weapon making or something of the sorts?
01-22-2009 06:47 PM
jgano23 For those of you who have not seen the "Holy Grail" movie:

YouTube - Monty Python-Bring out your dead!

i also heard about the plague outbreak the other day. i'm not sure if i should chalk it up to karma, darwinism, god, allah, yahweh, or sheer luck. regardless of what is responsible for this incident, it is too bad there weren't more of them that contracted it. i do not wish death upon people, but i feel as though these ones got what they deserve.
01-22-2009 06:10 PM
ccain
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Thank you, Ccain, for the info.
I'm here to help.

Oh wait. Isn't that phrase copyrighted?
01-22-2009 06:00 PM
amy Yes, I know it never went away and why it was so devastating in the middle ages and why it killed these guys. I know that it's not really much of a threat in developed countries. I was just thinking about our guys over there that might be exposed to it. Thank you, Ccain, for the info.
01-22-2009 05:49 PM
ccain Don't worry about our boys over there guys.

There is a vaccination available for people working in or traveling to plague-affected areas of the world. Also, antibiotics, such as streptomycin or tetracycline, are given and symptoms are treated.

Ain't Karma a kick in the pants?!
01-22-2009 05:48 PM
AzTJ The "the plague" never went away. The only reason it was so devastating in the middle ages was the amount of people in a small area and NO sanitation.
01-22-2009 05:43 PM
tiny terror I'm wondering if you guys understand the plague has always been around and there have been outbreaks all over the world. I believe Colorado recently had an outbreak.

Their lack of basic medical supplies and sanitary habits is what killed them.
01-22-2009 04:56 PM
amy
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The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not.
The Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk.
Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]
Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.
The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Large Man with Dead Body: Right.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
I read about this on another forum. If it's true, it's kinda scary. We've got a lot of people over there.
01-22-2009 04:38 PM
Dare2BSquare Well, let's just hope "the fates" keep that bug where it belongs.

I'm not so sure I'm celebrating if that gets unleashed again.
01-22-2009 02:56 PM
tiny terror
bring out ya dead!

I recognize a well placed round and the need for some to not exist anymore but I do not usually cheer death. That said, God forgive me, I had to snicker as the Three Fates snipped 40 life threads.

Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by Black Death after the killer bug also known as the plague sweeps through a training camp | The Sun |News


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At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages. The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa. It came to light when security forces found a body by a roadside.

The victim was a terrorist in AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East.
Thank you Moirae. You have done the world a favor.

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