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01-29-2013 08:25 AM
MossyOak93 Also this is located in Gainesville, VA if anyone can go with me for a look, I'd appreciate it
01-29-2013 08:23 AM
MossyOak93 http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/align...lignment01.jpg
01-29-2013 08:23 AM
MossyOak93
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
3 area's that would make me walk..

1. 6" of lift on a short arm is not the best
2. Lift is not done correctly, still has at least upper front STOCK control arms, what are the rear arms? with 6" of lift you need all the control arms to be adjustable in a short arm life.
3. Front track bar is bent at mounting point.

Walk away and keep looking...its way over priced..
this looks almost identical, front track bar is also bent at mounting point with a very similar looking lift, here's clearer pictures. maybe this'll help?
01-29-2013 12:18 AM
BayLLC Hey that's a clean looking jeep... Just bought an 05 with 26k miles chrome bumpers, Steps, and accents as well as a 4 inch lift for the same price just so u can get a feel for the market
01-28-2013 11:28 PM
tbensor Just so you know carfax doesn't mean crap. I just bought a car for my daughter clean carfax 1 owner. It was wrecked. found evidence once on the lift. Fortunately it was just the front bumper cover and nothing else but do your own inspection. If they repaired themselfs no evidence on car fax
01-28-2013 05:02 PM
Motowithy Yeah I'm a few hours north of Long Island and own a 2000 sport. I don't see the big rust concern that others are stating and most jeeps in the area have been subjected to road salt over the years.
01-28-2013 01:59 PM
ztman
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
3 area's that would make me walk..

1. 6" of lift on a short arm is not the best
2. Lift is not done correctly, still has at least upper front STOCK control arms, what are the rear arms? with 6" of lift you need all the control arms to be adjustable in a short arm life.
3. Front track bar is bent at mounting point.

Walk away and keep looking...its way over priced..
Good observation, smart man
01-28-2013 01:53 PM
JeepKing410 Looks like a good buy to me. I would check see if its been in any accidents. But looks like its in pretty good shape!
01-28-2013 01:50 PM
4Jeepn 3 area's that would make me walk..

1. 6" of lift on a short arm is not the best
2. Lift is not done correctly, still has at least upper front STOCK control arms, what are the rear arms? with 6" of lift you need all the control arms to be adjustable in a short arm life.
3. Front track bar is bent at mounting point.

Walk away and keep looking...its way over priced..
01-28-2013 01:36 PM
dbsanders
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Originally Posted by bostiguy View Post
One thing I forgot to mention in my post is, in the colder climates it's a buyers market.
Wranglers for the most part are summer toys. Everyone wants a Jeep in the summer so the price goes up and the availability goes down.
I bought mine in October and noticed about a month later the prices were coming down quite a bit.
Makes sense. Maybe that's why these LJs I'm looking for never get "cheap" in California.
01-28-2013 08:07 AM
Wattapunk If you will list the location of the Jeep, maybe another experienced WF member in the area can meet up with you and check it out. It's good to have another set of experienced eyes.
01-28-2013 07:30 AM
JustinCHorst Somebody is smoking crack if they think there is rust on that rig.... I would try to get the price down a bit but she looks very clean.
01-27-2013 07:24 PM
bostiguy
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Originally Posted by dbsanders View Post
I have seen a few more LJ's on the market lately - Why is that? Is it a seasonal thing?
One thing I forgot to mention in my post is, in the colder climates it's a buyers market.
Wranglers for the most part are summer toys. Everyone wants a Jeep in the summer so the price goes up and the availability goes down.
I bought mine in October and noticed about a month later the prices were coming down quite a bit.
01-27-2013 03:45 PM
Grizzly-Chris
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Originally Posted by MossyOak93 View Post
And I live in Virginia so I can't go down to Texas with my new job. Or new york. And I've been looking at jeeps in the area from Carmax and ebay, cragslist, and other websites and around here TJ's go around $14-16k with miles over 70k. This one has only 58k miles and well kept, at least from what I've seen, and I'll take it down to the Jeep dealer to get it fully checked to see if there's any hidden problems. My biggest concern is regearing and cost of that.
I don't see the point in spending all that money traveling all the way to New York, Texas or anywhere over a couple of hundred miles to find out when you get there the jeep is no good and you've wasted a lot of time and money getting there.
01-27-2013 02:51 PM
sinbob
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Originally Posted by Hotrod View Post
I like the looks of the rig, but the price does seem a little high. I bought my 2004 Rubicon, with three tops,hard,soft,and bikini,a 9000# warn winch and a 4" lift for $14K. It has 85,000 miles,straight 6 cyl,5 sp trans. The owner was asking $15K, but a little dickering got the price down $1000.00. And having a Rubi has been wonderful.
They say a Jeep is better than a car, but a Rubi is better than a Jeep. It was registered in Texas and I live in California,so the re-registering was a bit of a drag. But I love my ride.
x2 on the rubi. Used Rubi's aren't much more than non rubi's, but u gt sooooooo much more!!!!! I absolutely love mine

But, in the end it is your dime and YOU have to be happy.
01-27-2013 02:28 PM
Big Cole
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Originally Posted by MossyOak93 View Post
Sorry I got the price wrong, right now it's selling at 15,900. And he said he'll be able to bring it down a bit. He says the engine and gearing is stock, and I took it out on the highway and it seemed to be quicker than I'd expected it to be. It goes up hill very easy and has no problem going over 50mph quickly. How much would re-gearing cost if I wanted to get 4.56 or 4.88? Currently it has 3.73 if I'm not mistaking.
Approximately $1200 to regear including parts and labor.
01-27-2013 02:24 PM
MossyOak93 Also the tires are
Federal Couragia M/T 35"


brand new
01-27-2013 02:17 PM
MossyOak93 And I live in Virginia so I can't go down to Texas with my new job. Or new york. And I've been looking at jeeps in the area from Carmax and ebay, cragslist, and other websites and around here TJ's go around $14-16k with miles over 70k. This one has only 58k miles and well kept, at least from what I've seen, and I'll take it down to the Jeep dealer to get it fully checked to see if there's any hidden problems. My biggest concern is regearing and cost of that.
01-27-2013 02:11 PM
MossyOak93 Sorry I got the price wrong, right now it's selling at 15,900. And he said he'll be able to bring it down a bit. He says the engine and gearing is stock, and I took it out on the highway and it seemed to be quicker than I'd expected it to be. It goes up hill very easy and has no problem going over 50mph quickly. How much would re-gearing cost if I wanted to get 4.56 or 4.88? Currently it has 3.73 if I'm not mistaking.
01-27-2013 12:44 PM
mike25 also ask him what gear ratio hes got if he never re geared the jeep and hes runnin a 6 inch lift and 35 inch tires your gunna have sheeeet gas milage and have trouble going up hills. also have a buddy or someone drive along side of you in a different car have your buddy do 40 or so mph and see how fast the speedo in the jeep says your going if your going faster or slower then the speedo was never regeared for those tires and the jeep actually has much more miles on it than the odo says
01-27-2013 12:40 PM
mike25
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Originally Posted by Brew View Post
Seems like a high price for a regular Unlimited. At $17K you should almost be able to get a LJ Rubicon. You shouldn't pay a premium just due to the fact that its got a lift.
i agree 17 sounds a little steep man granted the it is under mileage by about 30,000 miles. i hope hes not asking 17k and your giving him 17k, if so hes making out like a bandit dude. you gotta haggle him a little bit throw a stupid offer at him first like 15 see what he says then get a kbb and compare the prices. what it comes down to for me is gut instict about a car im buying. im my personal experience i get real excited and atrracted by a car that i like so i need to take a step back and really check out the jeep and only judge it on how well maintaned it looks to me and if it will hold up. if you get a good feeling then buy it and rock on man
01-27-2013 10:29 AM
dbsanders
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Originally Posted by bostiguy View Post
Right now is a buyers market for Jeeps, in a few months that'll change.
I have seen a few more LJ's on the market lately - Why is that? Is it a seasonal thing?
01-27-2013 10:13 AM
Hotrod I like the looks of the rig, but the price does seem a little high. I bought my 2004 Rubicon, with three tops,hard,soft,and bikini,a 9000# warn winch and a 4" lift for $14K. It has 85,000 miles,straight 6 cyl,5 sp trans. The owner was asking $15K, but a little dickering got the price down $1000.00. And having a Rubi has been wonderful.
They say a Jeep is better than a car, but a Rubi is better than a Jeep. It was registered in Texas and I live in California,so the re-registering was a bit of a drag. But I love my ride.
01-27-2013 10:10 AM
bostiguy
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Originally Posted by 00tj2 View Post
Dude, your from Texas, the only salt you guys use is on your food They use salt on the roads up here like crazy... The original jeep that was posted is clean when it comes to rust, at least from what I see the original jeep posted looks clean.
Agreed, up here in the Northeast that thing is pretty damn near perfect rustwise. Oxidation is no concern on the aluminum parts.
Right now is a buyers market for Jeeps, in a few months that'll change. If you really like the Jeep shoot a lowball offer and see where they stand. You are in control of the negotiations at this point.
My advice is to read here daily to learn a bit then make an educated guess as to what to do. In a month from now if you buy the Jeep and there is something wrong with it will you tell your mechanic, "Well, the guys on WF told me to buy it"?
Look in the classified section here to see what folks are selling/buying Jeeps for around the country.
01-27-2013 10:08 AM
00tj2
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Originally Posted by ztman View Post
Great price, but based on seller's description, looks like a prior border patrol jeep with a prior accident. The low miles are most likely all 4wd miles
Yea, I didn't see that until after I posted the link. Again, on the op's original LJ, I don't see any of the rust everyone else is talking about?? Good night all, I'm a night shift worker and its time for bed, good luck to the op on your purchase.
01-27-2013 10:07 AM
ztman
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Originally Posted by kensjeep View Post
Could that jeep have been in the storm ?
Could have been but since it was previously owend by the federal government, I assume it was used for off road patrols , and govt got rid of it to update fleet.
As a comparison, here is a jeep on cl around me. Seems like a great price based on description.
07 JEEP WRANGLER - $12500 (GETTYSBURG)
01-27-2013 10:02 AM
kensjeep Could that jeep have been in the storm ?
01-27-2013 09:57 AM
ztman
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Originally Posted by 00tj2 View Post
Look on ebay, better yet go to this link, Jeep : Wrangler Unlimited Ru in Jeep | eBay Motors , it would be worth the flight to Texas and the ride back would be a great adventure. I'm sure you could get them down a little with the price too.
Great price, but based on seller's description, looks like a prior border patrol jeep with a prior accident. The low miles are most likely all 4wd miles
01-27-2013 09:50 AM
paul65k Just to chime in here on the price......I just purchased an o6 LJ Rubicon with 78K miles and hardtop the week after Christmas for $13,500. It was a little rough on the inside but the mechanicals were almost perfect (I did the front brakes).

I've been cleaning it up and adding a few things and I'm now in the Jeep about $15K.....and a little elbow grease.

While I did need to fly to get it and drive about 10 hours to get it home the trip was well worth it in my opinion and in the end I have a Rubicon......I think you can find a Rubicon for the money you will spend on the LJ you have found.......it's a much smaller world these days with the Internet......I suggest you use it to find what you are truly looking for and hang in there for EXACTLY what you are looking for.
01-27-2013 09:35 AM
bandman It's a great looking Jeep. $17k does seem high though. See if he will go 15.5k. I got my 05LJ with 85k miles for 14.5k last year, and that was at a dealer. At least with the 04 you will not have the OPDA concern. He probably knows that LJs hold value, but that's a lot of pride.
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