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05-03-2013 09:50 PM
pharmd Heard a few things about the 2014's

1. A beefed up version of the 8 speed auto will appear in 2014 wranglers. Source: motor trend. Report: Jeep Liberty to Return as Cherokee, Ram Reconsiders Compact Pickup - WOT on Motor Trend

2. The new transmission will provide around 20% better fuel economy.

3. New rear view camera will be optional
03-18-2013 09:38 PM
Panther57 Two years ago, I almost bought a brand new 2011. The night before I was to go in to see the dealer to make the purchase, I went online and discovered that the 2012s were getting both an improved transmission and engine, plus some major upgrades to the interior. So, instead of getting a 2011 (and feeling sorry for myself for not waiting), I bought a 2004 TJ and drove it for a year until the 2012s were available. Now that I've had my 2012 for a year, I have absolutely no regrets about waiting ... it was definitely worth it.
03-18-2013 08:44 PM
tomthbomb I would hold out for the 2014. I have heard from unnamed sources* that it will have three windshield washer jets and a lighted vanity mirror.

*Please don't tell Pat I leaked this.
03-18-2013 05:12 PM
ENGINE66
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Originally Posted by Miser View Post
O.K., I talked with the Western Regional Manager for Chrysler, just prior to purchasing my new 2013 Rubicon. I asked him about the eight (8) speed automatic Transmission for 2014 Wrangler. He said that it will not happen in 2014, because of two reasons. First the five speed is only been available 2012, 2013 and is the primary design for usage with the 3.6 in the Wrangler with the ratios that are currently available. Second is that they are having some mechanical issues with the eight speed currently in production. He would not share anymore INFO regarding 2014 models.
As for Differential ratios in the Rubicon. The 3:73 is the standard ratio in the 2013 model with the five speed automatic trans. The 4:10 is optional, which I have and I paid extra for it.
I like the 5 speed a lot...an 8 speed would not appeal to me personally. Too many parts, too many shifts, too many reliability issues, and the claimed MPG savings will probably not be worth it.
03-13-2013 07:41 PM
reddragons Wait... Were talking about a Jeep right? You have patients to wait to buy a Jeep? The day I was able to buy I went right to the dealership which was only 6 days ago.
03-13-2013 07:15 PM
scipio337 Fortes Fortuna adiuvat
03-13-2013 06:13 PM
ko26 I actually just took delivery of my 2013 JKR less than a week ago & my mentality was that I would go ahead & get one in case there may be changes. I've been hearing that the transmission may change & I'm the type that never wants to buy a vehicle the first year they make a big change because there's almost always problems. It's true that you'll be covered under warranty if any problems come up but I personally don't want my Jeep in the repair shop all the time.
03-13-2013 03:19 PM
Miser O.K., I talked with the Western Regional Manager for Chrysler, just prior to purchasing my new 2013 Rubicon. I asked him about the eight (8) speed automatic Transmission for 2014 Wrangler. He said that it will not happen in 2014, because of two reasons. First the five speed is only been available 2012, 2013 and is the primary design for usage with the 3.6 in the Wrangler with the ratios that are currently available. Second is that they are having some mechanical issues with the eight speed currently in production. He would not share anymore INFO regarding 2014 models.
As for Differential ratios in the Rubicon. The 3:73 is the standard ratio in the 2013 model with the five speed automatic trans. The 4:10 is optional, which I have and I paid extra for it.
03-13-2013 02:25 PM
heyray I have been told by 2 dealers if you place an order today. 3/13/03 it will be a 2014? But no info on changes or colors available.
03-05-2013 12:50 PM
i82much Incentives or not, I think a dealer is going to be a little more motivated to cut loose a 13 vs. a 14. On the other hand, the resale argument is a good point.

If it were me, I'd start looking now and if I found a good deal on exactly what I wanted, I'd pull the trigger. Otherwise, I'd wait and see what the 2014 changes are and what kind of deals are available in the future.

Never discount the now, though. I just bought my '13 JKUR and it doesn't matter what they do with the '14's, I am glad I pulled the trigger.
03-05-2013 12:45 PM
jquinn83 Model Year usually ends around Sept/Oct and Wranglers don't usually get the end of model incentives because they don't need incentives to sell them. Get it now so you can enjoy it in the summer.
03-05-2013 12:11 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by Pingjockey View Post
Long story short I went with my backup color black but hesitation prevented me from getting what I originally wanted...
Backup color? BACKUP COLOR?

03-05-2013 11:56 AM
JKRONNIE Summer will be over when the 14's come out. Nothing like having a jeep in the summer time
03-03-2013 10:25 PM
Drmad7
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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 View Post
And the 4.10 gearing were standard on 07-11 rubis but it was an option only on the sport. I don't believe it had anything to do with towing
OOPS! Cross out the 44 Rear. Yes, that is standard. But the 4.10 gearing WAS included on late 2007 Autos and Tow Group packages, like the 3.73 is today on Max Tow for '13 Saharas. I know because when the '08s were released(and I was in the market for an '07) it was a noticed by print media and any and all '07s were even left on lots in August 2007 were snapped up. I ended ordering my '08 and the 4.10 was no longer an option outside of getting the Rubicon.
But aside from my errors, my point to the OP is that while Jeep may add some things each year, they will take it away somewhere else and to check for himself what benefits he gains/loses between the 2014/2015. We have all seen posts from folks who bought Rubis and assumed that the 4.10 was still standard.
03-03-2013 10:11 PM
legitposter Just buy what you can right now and enjoy life. It will age, you will age, and newer better things will come along. You can re-think and purchase again later.

The most important part is when you turn 80 will you be smiling about the life you lived or regretting being too careful with your purchases?
03-03-2013 09:26 PM
jkjeeper06
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Originally Posted by daggo66

That's not entirely accurate. Furthermore brochures are notoriously wrong. All JK's (escept a few early 07's) have a D44 rear axle.
And the 4.10 gearing were standard on 07-11 rubis but it was an option only on the sport. I don't believe it had anything to do with towing
03-03-2013 09:22 PM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by Drmad7 View Post
And since you are particular about what you want...be sure to compare what you will get and will NOT get between the 13s and the 14s. Each year, Chryslers gives while taking away. In 2007, 4.10 gearing was standard on all JKs with Auto transmission or the Tow Group, and optional with manual transmissions. In 2008 the 4.10 was only available on the Rubicon. In 2007, the Trailer Tow group included the hitch, 4-pin adapter, 4.10 axle ratio, and Dana 44 heavy duty solid rear axle across all models. In 2008, the 4.10 was replaced with the 3.73. In 2013, its just the hitch and 4 pin adapter UNLESS you are buying the Rubicon (which comes with 3.73 standard) or you get the MAX Tow package which then upgrades you to the 3.73.
So basically, get a 2013 brochure and see what you like and when the 2014s come out, compare. BTW, I got this info from my 2007, 2008, and 2013 Jeep Wrangler brochures which I still have.
That's not entirely accurate. Furthermore brochures are notoriously wrong. All JK's (escept a few early 07's) have a D44 rear axle.
03-03-2013 07:59 PM
NMBruce I am about in the same boat and I will wait for the 2014, unless my truck falls apart and I have to get one sooner. For me, it's more about putting some money away, for my retirement and Alaska trip in 2014. I also want the new Jeep, because I plan to sell and buy the redesign 2017, if its no too bad.

I have been watching the threads about the diesel or the 8 speed auto real closely and reading Allpar, but I don't see any of that happening. What might happen are small changes, like the dash information from the 10A, or who knows what else they could change, but chances are they will be small changes.

If I was you, when it came time to buy, check the local dealers or contact Pat and just see if what you want is around, if not then order, GOOD LUCK
03-03-2013 07:58 PM
Drmad7 And since you are particular about what you want...be sure to compare what you will get and will NOT get between the 13s and the 14s. Each year, Chryslers gives while taking away. In 2007, 4.10 gearing was standard on all JKs with Auto transmission or the Tow Group, and optional with manual transmissions. In 2008 the 4.10 was only available on the Rubicon. In 2007, the Trailer Tow group included the hitch, 4-pin adapter, 4.10 axle ratio, and Dana 44 heavy duty solid rear axle across all models. In 2008, the 4.10 was replaced with the 3.73. In 2013, its just the hitch and 4 pin adapter UNLESS you are buying the Rubicon (which comes with 3.73 standard) or you get the MAX Tow package which then upgrades you to the 3.73.
So basically, get a 2013 brochure and see what you like and when the 2014s come out, compare. BTW, I got this info from my 2007, 2008, and 2013 Jeep Wrangler brochures which I still have.
03-03-2013 07:35 PM
Panther57 If you're not in a desperate hurry to take delivery, then I agree with others on this thread who vote for the 2014s.
03-03-2013 06:08 PM
Lusus_Naturae I thought Anvil was coming out with the 10A Wrangler this spring, and then following in the next model year.

August is a good time to buy, usually they start clearing out the years stock and you can also order the next years model too. I know you said you have specifics you want and all, but sometimes the deal is better with what's in stock even if you end up with more than what you want. I didn't want to spend money on the power group, but the deal was too good to pass up.
03-03-2013 06:00 PM
Drmad7
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Originally Posted by WXman View Post
I agree...I'd wait for '14 if you know it'll be summer before you can order anyhow. That way you can pick one of the new for '14 colors which in my opinion are better, and you get the added resale value of the new model year.

The 2014 will be almost 100% the same as 2013 except for color options and a minor interior tweak here and there. 2016 is when the all-new Wrangler will make an appearance as a 2017 model.
x2. This is coming from a guy who saw the 10th Anniversary Rubicon in December(online), didn't like ANY of the colors (Anvil was from the jeep site)...Traded my '08 Rescue Green in January for a '13 Sahara in Crush. Then saw a pic of the Anvil 10A Rubicon on a different website, fell in love, and two weeks later, went back to the dealership and ordered WHAT I TRULY WANTED. I "like" the Crush, but I "LOVED" my Rescue Green. And I know I'll LOVE the Anvil now that I have seen it. And there are rumors that while Anvil is a 2013 Anniversary only color, it may make an appearance in 2014. Hold out until the true info is available this summer.
03-03-2013 05:56 PM
JoeBot13 2014s will be the same as 2012s minus some color options... No changes slated until the 2016 refresh ... to include any chance of diesel

Save yourself the money by buying a year or two old and use the extra money for mods
03-03-2013 05:39 PM
Pingjockey Colors became a pain in my A$$ for 2013. I was all set to go out and order a 2DR Rubi in Crush. The options I wanted weren't available in local circulation so I would have needed to order one.... Unfortunately, I didn't do my research and found out that Jeep stopped production on the Crush in November. My heart was broken.... So I saw that they were coming out with Dune..... so I waited some more until I could see it with my own two eyes and man was I disappointed.... Long story short I went with my backup color black but hesitation prevented me from getting what I originally wanted...

TL;DR Don't wait......
03-03-2013 05:15 PM
Casotakar1229
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
No time like the present.
He who hesitates is lost.

And all that happy junk...

couldn't have said it better. live life in the present, because that is all there is and all there will ever be. and better to live one with a JEEP!
03-03-2013 04:14 PM
jkjeeper06
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf
No time like the present.
He who hesitates is lost.
This. It'll pretty much be the same jeep until 2016(2017 model)

if you can swing it, buy it now and you'll be able to enjoy it all spring and summer. If you don't have it in the summer you miss out on the best jeep season!
03-03-2013 04:10 PM
WXman I agree...I'd wait for '14 if you know it'll be summer before you can order anyhow. That way you can pick one of the new for '14 colors which in my opinion are better, and you get the added resale value of the new model year.

The 2014 will be almost 100% the same as 2013 except for color options and a minor interior tweak here and there. 2016 is when the all-new Wrangler will make an appearance as a 2017 model.
03-03-2013 03:57 PM
scuba_steve If you are waiting until mid to late summer, you might as well get a 2014...even if there are no significant differences. One year newer is one year newer...and will help resale. Normally, you are motivated to buy the prior model year by a financial incentive, but this is a Wrangler...and you will probably be able to buy a 2014 in August for under invoice. I bought my 2013 on Labor Day 2012 for 2% under after all fees.

If you were considering buying in the beginning of the summer, well, that's a different equation...and you would need to factor in loss of use during prime top-off months.

Color is another factor. Do you like any of the 2013 colors? Personally, I think 2013 was a pretty bad year for color choices if you don't like skittle colors. Of course, opinions will vary...but 2014 will likely bring a couple different choices.
03-03-2013 03:55 PM
kbwwolf No time like the present.
He who hesitates is lost.

And all that happy junk...
03-03-2013 03:40 PM
xcoaste There will always be the "next great thing", but I don't think there will be any show stoppers for '14. Since you say you are picky, I would just place an order based on your timeframe and get the 4-6 weeks of waiting out of the way!
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