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11-05-2013 10:02 AM
Mr.Dave Agreed. There is some lift on it, and it seems the cable doesnt stay put at the very end of the sides...usually when pulled as tight as it can be, which doesnt aid in keeping it down. Its a decent top, and it keeps the water off you, but its a pain if you want open air. I bought a spider shade and am looking to get rid of the cable top.
11-03-2013 07:31 PM
boson with the unlimited, you can roll it up and store it behind the back seat. I have a Tuffy security deck installed and I can tuck it between the back seat and the deck. Or I can stow my recurve bow behind the seat.

I recently switched from the standard safari top that was attached without the door surrounds. (Purchased before I bought a soft top) With the doors on and windows up, there's definitely wind noise between the edge of the top and the door. I took a road trip across Texas and finally decided to put the soft top back up so my wife and I could have conversations and be able to listen to the radio. I also installed a wind jammer which seems to help as well. The cable style is definitely quieter and I enjoy being able to change from safari top to full soft top without having to mess with the door surrounds. It saves a lot of time.

My disappointment with the cable style top is that when it's windy or when going above 60mph, the edges bow up. while I understand the natural wind dynamics will draw the top up, it opens a gap from the door surrounds and creates wind noise that I was hoping to eliminate. It seems that there needs to be something that holds it down to the door surrounds right about where the two door surround pieces overlap. Eventhough it doesn't work quite as well as I hoped, it is still better than the rollbar attachment style.

I wonder if the non cable style for the '07-'09 models work any better with the wrap and tuck system on the door surrounds. it would seem that it would.

When ordering the safari top, both the cable style and non-cable style are labeled the same with the word "cable" on both the product description and soft top image on the packaging. I ended up ordering the exact same one that I already had because of the bad wrong product description and product image. The tell-tell sign is whether or not it requires you to purchase the header bar separately. Cable style will have the header bar included since Bestop fastens the cable to the header and supposedly its a bit different to accommodate the door surround.

Jason
09-22-2013 09:18 PM
Mr.Dave Yeah sure. Pretty much, when its on, it shouldn't be taken off. I don't think there is a way for it to be rolled up and be stored while attached. Also, the header bar snaps to it, so when I store it, I just undo the header screws and roll it back. I also don't think you can put it behind the seats with the header bar in it. I suppose you can unsnap it, but that would get old fast. I love running it with a deck cover, so I suppose you could fold the seat down to store it.

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Originally Posted by RedJupiter View Post
Can you comment on how easy it is to take the top down and put it up? I am considering using this as my only top. I use my soft top, without windows, only for rain. It takes only a couple minutes to put it up or down. Is this top equally convenient, and can it be stowed rolled behind the rear seat of a 2 door? I like the idea of having no rear sail panels, and the tight fit along the door surrounds. Thanks.
09-20-2013 01:41 PM
RedJupiter Can you comment on how easy it is to take the top down and put it up? I am considering using this as my only top. I use my soft top, without windows, only for rain. It takes only a couple minutes to put it up or down. Is this top equally convenient, and can it be stowed rolled behind the rear seat of a 2 door? I like the idea of having no rear sail panels, and the tight fit along the door surrounds. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by ltlbigfoot View Post
Finally got my Bestop Cable-style Safari Bikini put on yesterday - I like the fit a lot better than the regular bikini or safari top that I had It's a little bit of a pain in the rear to get it put on. I think the fit will be even better over time as it stretches out some- and It comes down a little farther than I would like in the back so it cuts down a little visibility @ the top of the rear view mirror but I'm sure that's just me being weird. Overall so far so good. I Haven't had it out on the highway maybe this weekend.


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06-27-2013 11:36 AM
Mr.Dave That has to be it, thanks for the reply, I hope it is as easy as it sounds...
06-27-2013 10:57 AM
Scampers
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Originally Posted by Mr.Dave View Post
Also, does anyone have problems with it not reaching over the top of the surround? mine reach the top, but I would like it to go further. I wonder if I have to fudge the cable more toward the end of the top.

Actually the more I read what I just typed, it doesnt make sense...hopefully someone can answer the question.

The cable that runs from the header to the back...isn't all the way to the outer most edge of the top, is that why I have the gap?
Not sure, But make sure the cable isn't riding high towards the seam. Move the cable to the outer edge as much as possible.
06-27-2013 10:36 AM
Mr.Dave Also, does anyone have problems with it not reaching over the top of the surround? mine reach the top, but I would like it to go further. I wonder if I have to fudge the cable more toward the end of the top.

Actually the more I read what I just typed, it doesnt make sense...hopefully someone can answer the question.

The cable that runs from the header to the back...isn't all the way to the outer most edge of the top, is that why I have the gap?
06-24-2013 04:48 PM
Mr.Dave most definitely you can, nothing has changed for the holes used on the frame and roll bar
06-24-2013 12:40 PM
ohioviper Can you use the non cable door surrounds from an 07-09 and the 07-09 bikini top that has the clips to snap into the door surrounds on a 11-13 ?
06-02-2013 05:56 AM
mcgee10
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Originally Posted by illypso View Post
I installed the non cable bikini top from bestop and after different try with the strap I got a setup that does not flap at all up to 90kmh and flap a little at 100.

Maybe it will start to flap once stretch out but for now its all good I love it.



I also sew some strap (from an old school bag) in the back that attach to the 3rd light to be water seal because there was not enough tension back there.




I attach the strap for the top on the rear seatbelt, DONT USE THE LOOP STRAP that are arround the tonno cover, one big wind and the plastic that slide in the body to hold the tonno cover will break.



If you want to see more pic of it before buying
Bestop Bikini Safari Slideshow by illypso | Photobucket
From those picture's it looks like you also have the door surrounds, without the surrounds there is no way to get the top tight. Thanks for showing me yours. I'm good with mine without a top and I have my front panel with me if I need them.
06-01-2013 09:22 PM
illypso
No cable safari top

I installed the non cable bikini top from bestop and after different try with the strap I got a setup that does not flap at all up to 90kmh and flap a little at 100.

Maybe it will start to flap once stretch out but for now its all good I love it.



I also sew some strap (from an old school bag) in the back that attach to the 3rd light to be water seal because there was not enough tension back there.




I attach the strap for the top on the rear seatbelt, DONT USE THE LOOP STRAP that are arround the tonno cover, one big wind and the plastic that slide in the body to hold the tonno cover will break.



If you want to see more pic of it before buying
Bestop Bikini Safari Slideshow by illypso | Photobucket
05-31-2013 07:22 PM
mcgee10
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Originally Posted by Y-Guy View Post
Did you get the cable bikini top or the normal? I was told the non-cable ones flapped pretty bad.
Your right I got the non cable top. Well if anyone wants to try it before spending $200.00. Let me know. It's the door surrounds I don't have. I put just the front panels in today and it works great to keep the sun off me.
I got another good one I heard at the dealership today.
A salesman was trying to sell a guy a jeep wrangler 4 dr by telling him it's just like a hummer. He was telling him 4 dr Jeeps are for hummer want to bee. I knew I hated them for a reason now that's all I think of when I see one. I walked buy them and told the customer to find another salesman because the guy your dealing with is an Idiot.
Thanks guys on my bikini top problems.
05-31-2013 07:05 PM
chrisfp88
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Originally Posted by mcgee10 View Post
NO soft top, just hard top. I think your on to why. From the pics mine is different from the pictures.
I would take a pic but it's not going back on.
If you specifically got the cable top it will not work without door surrounds.
05-31-2013 06:52 PM
Y-Guy
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Originally Posted by mcgee10 View Post
I have a Bestop Safari Bikini top and head rail with 3 miles on it I'll sell cheap.
Did you get the cable bikini top or the normal? I was told the non-cable ones flapped pretty bad.
05-31-2013 06:36 PM
mcgee10
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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 View Post
Do you have soft top? If not this thing won't be tight without the door surrounds, it's made to pull tight against them.
NO soft top, just hard top. I think your on to why. From the pics mine is different from the pictures.
I would take a pic but it's not going back on.
05-31-2013 08:39 AM
ltlbigfoot
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Originally Posted by mcgee10 View Post
Well my top came in, I put it on hoping for the best. I took 1 ride down the street and removed it. Way to much flapping for me. Another $200.00 bad idea.
I'm going with the hard top off completely or just the front panels in.
I have a Bestop Safari Bikini top and head rail with 3 miles on it I'll sell cheap.
What area was flapping??
I only ask because me was really bad flapping in the back when I first put it on but after a few days of siting out in the sun, I was able to tighten it down more and more each day so now I have very little movement and flapping. Within the first week I was gonna return it to the shop I bought it at - now I'm so glad I didn't cause I love it.
Also make sure you don't wrap the rear straps around the roll bar @ all just around the seat belt bracket that also help to be able to tighten it down more
05-31-2013 07:52 AM
jwilson2598
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Originally Posted by mcgee10 View Post
Well my top came in, I put it on hoping for the best. I took 1 ride down the street and removed it. Way to much flapping for me. Another $200.00 bad idea.
I'm going with the hard top off completely or just the front panels in.
I have a Bestop Safari Bikini top and head rail with 3 miles on it I'll sell cheap.
Do you have soft top? If not this thing won't be tight without the door surrounds, it's made to pull tight against them.
05-31-2013 05:56 AM
mcgee10 Well my top came in, I put it on hoping for the best. I took 1 ride down the street and removed it. Way to much flapping for me. Another $200.00 bad idea.
I'm going with the hard top off completely or just the front panels in.
I have a Bestop Safari Bikini top and head rail with 3 miles on it I'll sell cheap.
05-15-2013 11:19 AM
Y-Guy I finally installed my Bestop Cable Safari Bikini on Sunday due to rain showers in the forecast for Monday. The install took a while as some items in the instructions were not as clear for my type of understanding. However now that I've gone through it I can see getting it on/off in about 5 minutes. Few things that helped me was taking it out on a drive after I installed it, I was then able to tighten it up a bit more. Also though it seems like the cable and flap would fit in the channel on the back door it actually does seem to belong on the outside, doing this seemed to pull the top and cable better into the "gutter" on the sides, but this is also one item that takes time to pull tight - warm weather will help. I'm not having any issues with the strap buckles hitting the sound bar, when I get to about 40MPH the top does rise up, but I don't hear anything when it comes down, in my case the pull straps lay over the strap going to the back of the sound bar.



05-15-2013 07:16 AM
mcgee10 Now that's just what I wanted to see, I like that alot. Thanks for the pics
05-14-2013 09:55 PM
ltlbigfoot Finally got my Bestop Cable-style Safari Bikini put on yesterday - I like the fit a lot better than the regular bikini or safari top that I had It's a little bit of a pain in the rear to get it put on. I think the fit will be even better over time as it stretches out some- and It comes down a little farther than I would like in the back so it cuts down a little visibility @ the top of the rear view mirror but I'm sure that's just me being weird. Overall so far so good. I Haven't had it out on the highway maybe this weekend.


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05-08-2013 06:39 PM
chrisfp88 ya I did mine tight but not over the top. The only thing mine wanted to do is at highway speeds with the doors off, the cable wanted to walk out of the channel. It didn't, but you could tell it wanted to. I can't wrench the cable straps any tighter so.... lol.
05-08-2013 06:31 PM
Mr.Dave As tight as they will go, when it gets nice again I will try it again
05-08-2013 05:59 PM
chrisfp88
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Originally Posted by Mr.Dave View Post
When you pull the attachers around the sound bar and put into the hardtop holes, then you pull it tight on top of the sound bar. That plastic clip on top bangs against the metal up there, kind of annoying
Oh I haven't had that issue. How tight did you pull them?
05-08-2013 05:56 PM
Mr.Dave When you pull the attachers around the sound bar and put into the hardtop holes, then you pull it tight on top of the sound bar. That plastic clip on top bangs against the metal up there, kind of annoying
05-08-2013 05:31 PM
chrisfp88
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Originally Posted by Mr.Dave View Post
Ahhh yes if you have bestops surrounds, it will work. I just figured that wasn't the case bc those are pricey so not many have them. But cool, you will enjoy it, no flapping, and if you can find a cure for the plastic tightness above the sound bar from dingin around up there while driving, let us know
I'm sorry which issue with the sound bar? is yours banging around while driving? I will post pics of mine later I have a unique setup that I am trying to hack to make work.
05-08-2013 05:29 PM
Mr.Dave Ahhh yes if you have bestops surrounds, it will work. I just figured that wasn't the case bc those are pricey so not many have them. But cool, you will enjoy it, no flapping, and if you can find a cure for the plastic tightness above the sound bar from dingin around up there while driving, let us know
05-08-2013 05:19 PM
chrisfp88 Mine is a 2012 Jeep jku. Cable top and then the aftermarket bestop door surrounds. the cable drops into the channel of the door surround. I have it installed and seems to be working well. http://www.bestop.com/images/install...ides/52594.pdf
05-08-2013 05:16 PM
Mr.Dave It all depends on your top. If you have a 10 or newer and purchased a soft top that the flaps tuck into the drop retainers, then this shouldn't work. When they say it's for years 10 to 13, that means surround types, not the year of the jeep. Mine is an 07, but I bought a brand new top so I have 10+ styling.
05-08-2013 05:12 PM
chrisfp88 Cool. Thanks. I have a different door surround, but I looked it up on Bestop and it's allowed to be used. I will post pictures, if it ever stops raining.
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