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04-23-2013 11:14 AM
MountainairMuse
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Originally Posted by fireguy View Post
13 jku 2.5" rock krawler stock mod lift 315 70 17 / GY Duratracs 5100 Bilsteins. I am really happy with this setup. Ride on and off road is great, I prefer it over the stock ride. I do have aftermarket front bumper and warn zeon 10 winch (about 150#over stock) and rear bumper/tire carrier ( 160#over stock) set up helping out the ride. I run the tires at 28 psi and it feels about right. Can't tell about the wear yet though.
Thanks ! Do you have any pics that you can post?
04-22-2013 11:02 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by rosendavidp View Post
2013 JK 4Dr Rubi .... 8 months old and 9000 miles and its all rusted out like the OP's maybe worse. Will post pics tmrw.

The POR15.... Which one exactly did you use to "wipe" off the rust? I'm seeing POR15 paint and other stuff but want to be certain.
Naval jelly works but takes time, rustoleum black rust converter is good and easy plus it matches the frame paint code, wire wheel on an angle grinder is the fastest and works well in conjunction with the rust converter rustoleum, por 15 is great but its not as easy to work with.
Caution on the wire wheel though, long sleeves, safety glasses, closed toe shoes (not flip flops) and jeans are a must Learn from my mistakes.
04-22-2013 10:54 PM
rosendavidp 2013 JK 4Dr Rubi .... 8 months old and 9000 miles and its all rusted out like the OP's maybe worse. Will post pics tmrw.


The POR15.... Which one exactly did you use to "wipe" off the rust? I'm seeing POR15 paint and other stuff but want to be certain.
04-22-2013 10:23 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by mikem78 View Post
i love lamp
And for that, we are thrilled
04-22-2013 10:21 PM
mikem78 i love lamp
04-22-2013 10:15 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by OffRoadCam09 View Post
Blisteins are a great shock, very smooth on the road, tend to stiffen over bigger bumps in the road an also preforming excellent offroad
Bilstiens 5100's are known to be a bit rougher on road. Similar to a fox racing shock. Ome or teraflex 9550's are smooth in comparison. Think of it in terms of responsiveness. Bilstien and fox, very responsive, smooth out at higher speeds, like a spring mattress with a nice memory foam topper, a tera or ome is all memory foam and a cheaper twin tube or other is a spring matress.
04-22-2013 10:13 PM
JerryJeepster
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Originally Posted by fireguy View Post
13 jku 2.5" rock krawler stock mod lift 315 70 17 / GY Duratracs 5100 Bilsteins. I am really happy with this setup. Ride on and off road is great, I prefer it over the stock ride. I do have aftermarket front bumper and warn zeon 10 winch (about 150#over stock) and rear bumper/tire carrier ( 160#over stock) set up helping out the ride. I run the tires at 28 psi and it feels about right. Can't tell about the wear yet though.
I have a jk with the same setup. I have to agree and absolutely love it with zero regrets.
04-22-2013 09:58 PM
fireguy 13 jku 2.5" rock krawler stock mod lift 315 70 17 / GY Duratracs 5100 Bilsteins. I am really happy with this setup. Ride on and off road is great, I prefer it over the stock ride. I do have aftermarket front bumper and warn zeon 10 winch (about 150#over stock) and rear bumper/tire carrier ( 160#over stock) set up helping out the ride. I run the tires at 28 psi and it feels about right. Can't tell about the wear yet though.
04-10-2013 10:06 AM
OffRoadCam09 Blisteins are a great shock, very smooth on the road, tend to stiffen over bigger bumps in the road an also preforming excellent offroad
04-10-2013 10:03 AM
MountainairMuse
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Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post
Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else with an opinion on shocks for a DD JK that is a moderate weekend trail rig. Pro Comps vs Bilsteins vs Terra Flex VS 9550?

- Cheers
PS - in combo with a - 2.5" Terraflex lift, 33" (285/70/R17) tires (don't want to re-gear and diminish mpg's) also don't want to chip it yet. Wheel spacers as needed to avoid rubbing, possible exhaust spacers as well.
04-10-2013 09:53 AM
MountainairMuse Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else with an opinion on shocks for a DD JK that is a moderate weekend trail rig. Pro Comps vs Bilsteins vs ?

- Cheers
04-08-2013 09:38 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post
Thanks for all the pics and feedback. Coming down the home stretch on decision making and have a couple of more questions. The set up I am narrowing down to is the following:

1). Teraflex 2.5 suspension kit. http://internationalboardofhypnotherapy.com/locate.html

2). Bilstein 5100 shocks

3). Stock wheels with 33" 10-11.5 inch wide tires.
I am hesitant to go to 35's for reasons of reduction in gas mileage and handling. This is my every day vehicle.

Can anyone provide me with all terrain recommendations. I am not sure which measurement indicates the tire width.

At what point do I need wheel spacers for the set up above?

Also, do I need adapters with the set up above if I get the Bilstein shocks?

Thanks!

Christian
Here is my set up if it helps

1. Tera 2.5 spring lift with 9550 shocks
2. 1.5" rugged ridge wheel spacers
3. 315 70 17 procomp extreme mt2's
4. Super hip flashpaq

My mileage on the freeway in my rubicon is 19 if I stick to 65, which is actually better than stock
The ride is tremendously more smooth (5100's are great but known to be a bit stiff on a dd jk)
The tires have a slight hum but pull nicely offroad and handle very well on road
There is no rub, though I don't have my stupid splash guard under the bumper anymore.

There are no more parts to my set up than that and I highly recommend this or a similar set up.
04-08-2013 12:31 PM
COLOUJK
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Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post
First of all I want to thank everyone for their responses! I am new the forum and appreciate the candid feedback. It is very helpful to hear from people that have gone through this process.

Next question (s) will a 2.5 Terraflex Spring lift system accommodate 12 inch wide 33's? Will I need to change out the factory wheels if I go with that tire width?

Also, do I need to get exhaust spacers for a 2012 Rubicon JK with a 2.5 terraflex spring lift?

Thanks all and have a splendid day.

If you do 12.5" tires on the stock wheels there are many companies out there (Discount Tire/America's Tire included) That will not mount the tire to the wheel because of safety concerns. There are people that run them just fine, but shops can and do refuse installing that combination.
04-08-2013 12:23 PM
Tweak get the exhaust spacer. I have spacers in with a 3.5 and my driveshaft boot is torn from the exhaust. better safe than sorry but you dont NEED it.

they are a pain in the butt to install though. I had to run a ratchet strap from my rear bumper to my Y-Pipe to pull it back far enough to get it on.
04-08-2013 11:07 AM
kjeeper10 Duratrac hands down. Here is Qt's tire chart.
04-08-2013 10:40 AM
MountainairMuse Thanks for all the pics and feedback. Coming down the home stretch on decision making and have a couple of more questions. The set up I am narrowing down to is the following:

1). Teraflex 2.5 suspension kit. http://internationalboardofhypnotherapy.com/locate.html

2). Bilstein 5100 shocks

3). Stock wheels with 33" 10-11.5 inch wide tires.
I am hesitant to go to 35's for reasons of reduction in gas mileage and handling. This is my every day vehicle.

Can anyone provide me with all terrain recommendations. I am not sure which measurement indicates the tire width.

At what point do I need wheel spacers for the set up above?

Also, do I need adapters with the set up above if I get the Bilstein shocks?

Thanks!

Christian
04-06-2013 11:12 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by JTPhoto JK View Post
All 2.5" kits that come with bumpstop extensions will be more the adequate for 35" tires. 35" can be run on stock suspension with flat fenders.

My preference is either the TeraFlex 2.5" complete Budget Boost which will retain factory ride or the TeraFlex 2.5" spring lift which will ride a bit stiffer.
The teraflex 2.5 with shocks is much much much less stiff than factory.
04-06-2013 11:06 PM
noobified
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Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post

Next question (s) will a 2.5 Terraflex Spring lift system accommodate 12 inch wide 33's? Will I need to change out the factory wheels if I go with that tire width?
Yes, you can put those tires, but you might as well go with 35's. You can put either sized tire on your factory wheels, though you will need wheel spacers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post

Also, do I need to get exhaust spacers for a 2012 Rubicon JK with a 2.5 terraflex spring lift?
No, you won't need exhaust spacers with that lift.
04-06-2013 10:56 PM
JeffC
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Originally Posted by JTPhoto JK View Post
My preference is either the TeraFlex 2.5" complete Budget Boost which will retain factory ride or the TeraFlex 2.5" spring lift which will ride a bit stiffer.
Did it ... love it
04-06-2013 10:12 PM
kjeeper10 A spacer on top the coil is not going to make a significant change in ride. It's all in the shocks.
04-06-2013 08:55 PM
jrussblues I have heard quite a few complaints about spacer lifts due to the harsh ride.

You will need wheel spacers to keep factory wheels with wider tire and with the lift. Can't remember the issue but something rubs on the back.

Tera kits are more complete than re kits, they include provisions for the sway bar end links.

9550's ride very nice and soft, fox shocks firm things up a bit but absorb the jolts much better. Factory shocks are garbage.

If you don't plan to offroad you will likely never have to worry about the exhaust spacer issue. If you plan on wheeling it you will probably have to worry about the spacer.
04-06-2013 08:44 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Jeeper4ever View Post
2 urban legends. Lifts don't cause death wobble and you don't need a stiff suspension to have fun.

They are hard on the sides of your seat though!
I disagree completely.

First of all, lifts don't "cause" death wobble. I didn't say that. They put additional pressure on trackbar bushings. That's why the axle moves sideways when lifted, and that's why adjustable trackbars exist. You don't think an excessive load on a critical bushing beyond design intentions will make it wear out faster? I am, however, not questioning that stock jeeps can have death wobble as well.

And I completely disagree. I would much prefer a stiff suspension on any vehicle. On sports cars, they handle corners much better. On jeeps they're harder to bottom out, and handle corners better. :P But that's purely an opinion.
04-06-2013 07:50 PM
HK_Runner Get a good coil lift. I'm getting the Rock Krawler 2.5 X Factor, and installing 35s. I am going to get it done by an experienced installer and weld on the rear trackbar. I hope to not have any wobble issues.
04-06-2013 04:37 PM
khickeyman
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Originally Posted by MountainairMuse View Post
First of all I want to thank everyone for their responses! I am new the forum and appreciate the candid feedback. It is very helpful to hear from people that have gone through this process.

Next question (s) will a 2.5 Terraflex Spring lift system accommodate 12 inch wide 33's? Will I need to change out the factory wheels if I go with that tire width?

Also, do I need to get exhaust spacers for a 2012 Rubicon JK with a 2.5 terraflex spring lift?

Thanks all and have a splendid day.

Attachment 232434
Just Installed this lift 2 days ago on my 2012 you will need wheel spacers if you run your stock wheels ,Im running 1 1/2" spacers on my stock wheels for now. I've heard differant stories on the exhaust spacers I have alot of room with my exhaust so I didnt need them.
04-06-2013 02:44 PM
RKracing LOT'S....like... quadbillionzillions of people mount 35" and 37" tires on stock wheels with spacers.
04-06-2013 02:17 PM
MountainairMuse First of all I want to thank everyone for their responses! I am new the forum and appreciate the candid feedback. It is very helpful to hear from people that have gone through this process.

Next question (s) will a 2.5 Terraflex Spring lift system accommodate 12 inch wide 33's? Will I need to change out the factory wheels if I go with that tire width?

Also, do I need to get exhaust spacers for a 2012 Rubicon JK with a 2.5 terraflex spring lift?

Thanks all and have a splendid day.

Attachment 232434
04-06-2013 01:21 PM
RKracing Spacer lift = most do not like it.
2.5" lift is GREAT for 35" tires.
Bottom line = Teraflex 2.5 coil lift....about $450 with shock extensions
04-06-2013 01:14 PM
Tweak learn from my mistake. when you pull out those 14mm bolts you can absolutely NOT put them back on your jeep. go buy some fine thread grade 8 9/16 bolts at tractor supply. no need to spend $80 at quadratec for their kit. this is the #1 cause of wobble and steering issues.

get a spring lift, the RK 3.5 flex is only $1300 but I paid much less from AOR here on this forum. spacers are a waste of money if you wheel your jeep, you are just going to install a spring lift and pull those spacers out!
04-06-2013 08:27 AM
JEEPDON
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Originally Posted by ThingsAbove View Post
normally a 2.5" would not be enough for 35s .
?????????????
Here is a 2 1/2" lift and flatties with 37's


And there are quite a few others on here that are running a similar setup.
04-06-2013 08:22 AM
Jeeper4ever
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
Youre inviting the death wobble demons. Keep that trackbar torqued.

My jeep rides great on 2.5 inches of lift. A little rough but you need a stiff suspension to have fun. Ive had some death wobble problems and lifts definitely invite that demon in.

Lift kits will damage the sides of your seats as well...from getting in and out... i definitely reccomend rock sliders with a step on them to help get in. Even with stock size tires on my jeep, the door sills are at knee level which is kinda ridiculous. But cool.
2 urban legends. Lifts don't cause death wobble and you don't need a stiff suspension to have fun.

They are hard on the sides of your seat though!
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