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05-14-2013 07:38 AM
homebrwd Unless you are paying for the vehicle don't do it. My parents bought my second car for me and I paid my ridiculously high insurance on it along with all the gas, they just covered the loan. It was tough but I waited until it was mine (college grad gift) to do any major modification to it. Discuss it with your parents though and let them know the issue you are seeing. Come to them with cost estimates and even the chance for some time spent working on it together. Showing responsibility in the decision making can go a long way.
05-14-2013 07:15 AM
adkjoe Cameron clear out you private message box so I can reply to you.
05-13-2013 08:39 PM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by flflash View Post
Well now your just sounding like a punk ass kid
Nah, just wasn't one to be profiled for no reason and not have some fun with it. Gotta get your kicks somehow when you're 18 and bored as hell. Driving around burning daddy's gas just happened to be the thing to do.
05-13-2013 07:43 PM
Jwolfer I would pick up the Rubi springs. Their rate is higher so you will see a bit of a "lift".
05-13-2013 07:28 PM
flflash Well now your just sounding like a punk ass kid
05-13-2013 07:17 PM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by flflash View Post
Again as a father of three grown children and with a couple grandchildren I'll tell you there was damn little I did'nt know about what my children where doing. If you Love your children thats the way it is.....sounds like your parents loved you and cut you some slack don't think they did'nt know what was going on.

I had a rent-a-cop call in my plate once... he was following me around this ritzy hood one night we were fooling around in. I pulled into a driveway and once he was passed I started following him for a mile or so until it was visible that he was getting really pissed. Pulled a J-Turn and then got the f out of there. Later on I found out my dad was working dispatch that night and ignored the rent-a-cop's request to run the plates and for a patrol because he recognized the plates and figured the rent-a-cop called it in wrong haha.
05-13-2013 06:34 PM
speedyrev My guess is that it's not your jeep. I bet the name on the title happens to be the name of one of your parents.
The guys who are saying do it anyway are idiots. You don't need that approach to life. You will always have someone in life who tells you what to do. And those who have a rebellious streak tend to pay for it over and over.
Here's what I would do, talk to your parents about replacing the springs and shocks. Get prices and while you are at it, get info on a kit that includes springs and shocks for a 2" lift. It doesn't require doing anything else and you can even get a better overall ride out of it.
Gather info, talk it out, look responsible. Get their respect.
05-13-2013 06:33 PM
flflash
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.
Again as a father of three grown children and with a couple grandchildren I'll tell you there was damn little I did'nt know about what my children where doing. If you Love your children thats the way it is.....sounds like your parents loved you and cut you some slack don't think they did'nt know what was going on.
05-13-2013 06:18 PM
Some Farkin Guy I wish I could've gotten a Jeep when I was 16! My vote is to go with what they say. I would suggest new or slightly used stock springs and a set of 31s. Further down the line try to work in a proper 2-3" spring lift as a father-son project. Do your research though, a budget boost is cheap for a reason.
05-13-2013 06:12 PM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by flflash View Post
Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.
What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.
05-13-2013 06:08 PM
flflash HOWEVER! If the spring sagging issue could be approached as a safety issue and possibly a father son project you might just be in
05-13-2013 06:07 PM
flflash Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.
05-13-2013 05:57 PM
wrangleryj90 If you are 16 and parents say no talk to them and explain that this is your hobby don't ask them to help pay for it and explain that off roading is better then playing video games
05-13-2013 05:50 PM
Water Dog Just a guess here after raising 5 of my own....they probably don't want to pay for it..!
05-13-2013 05:23 PM
n00g7 A 4.25 inch lift is pretty noticeable. Just tell your parents you're replacing the sagging springs and get a small coil lift. (e.g., with the OME springs http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-su...j/upgrades.htm) You can put on 31/32's at that point over what I'm assuming are 29's. Then save up for some new shocks (and a body lift/mml if you want to run 33's with the 2.5coils) and leave it at that.

2.5 springs + another inch in height due to tire size will be quite capable.
05-13-2013 04:57 PM
TJDave
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Originally Posted by SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 View Post
Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.
Yay! He just might get away with it!




Or, he may have his Jeep taken away from him.




Not good advice. It's too early in life to start high stakes gambling.
05-13-2013 02:26 PM
SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

I'm buying the zone 4.25 combo kit when I'm back in the states because my springs sag very badly in the rear. The kit includes 3" suspension lift 1.25" body lift and 1" motor mount lift, which is to realign the drive train. It only cost about $600 depending on what options you want on it (e.g disconnecting sway bar links or nitrogen charged shocks)
05-13-2013 12:57 PM
speedyrev If your springs are sagging, spacers aren't the answer. Springs are the answer.
If the Parents say "No Lift", then the only correct solution is replace the springs with the proper ones. You can buy new (safest) or check around a local Jeep club for someone who might have slightly used ones.
05-13-2013 12:24 PM
adkjoe I have stock springs from an 06 with only 28k on them if you want them PM me.
05-13-2013 12:03 PM
HobieSailor
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Originally Posted by Offrd View Post

Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?
No lift with 4.0L, Rubicon springs are not any taller. I think they may be a little stiffer tho...
05-13-2013 10:34 AM
Offrd
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Originally Posted by HobieSailor View Post
I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.
Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?
05-13-2013 10:33 AM
Jeffreybomb
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Originally Posted by Cameron138 View Post
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/
My bad. Mistakenly read your initial post "how much lift would I get" as "how much lift should I get."
05-13-2013 10:12 AM
Water Dog If you can use them (and your folks say its okay) I have a set of 2" spacers and 1" bump stop extensions (no bolts) that you can have if you want to pay postage. Probably around $13. PM if interested.
05-13-2013 08:05 AM
homebrwd You may want to just hang out and do some research. The fact that you asked how much lift you would get from adding in 3in spring spacers makes me nervous. The idea of getting springs form a newer TJ is going to be your best bet and cheaper. You only have to replace springs. Adding spacers you will also need to replace shocks and fix your bump stops. GL.
05-13-2013 07:02 AM
HobieSailor I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.
05-13-2013 06:40 AM
Cameron138
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Originally Posted by TJDave View Post

Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.
Thanks, Il look into new springs.
05-13-2013 12:08 AM
TJDave
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Originally Posted by Cameron138 View Post
Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.
Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.
05-12-2013 11:26 PM
Water Dog
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Originally Posted by tjspeed View Post
do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.
^^x2
05-12-2013 10:34 PM
Cameron138
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Originally Posted by TJDave View Post

You're 16. Be thankful you have a Jeep. Do what they say.

Life must really suck.
Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.
05-12-2013 10:08 PM
TJspeed Do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.
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