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05-19-2013 10:05 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by rustynail11 View Post
Thanks for the advice. I plan in doing plenty of research and being prepared for the unexpected. A coworker has been out there several times and I will be talking to him a lot to get advice and info. I don't plan on doing a lot of technical off roading, I just want to take in the scenery and make a great memory for my son and myself. We live in TX and my son plays a lot of soccer and football in 100 plus temps so we are really careful to stay hydrated and always have water. I know this can be a hostile environment and plan to be as prepared as I can.

This members on here are great and I am sure I will be seeking some advice
Yup, anything you need, just ask! Buy the moab book on Amazon from Funtreks. All the greens you are good to go, and the blues are ok if you are careful. If you are going alone (alone vehicle wise) I'd keep off the red stuff personally. Not because of danger (most of the red stuff is actually pretty busy with people) but because equipment failure is a fast way to ruin your trip. If you want to testrun a red, do Top of the World.
05-19-2013 09:52 PM
rustynail11
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post

Just make sure you are WELL prepared. If it's only you and your son, I recommend you have a case of water for EACH of you for any given day (don't take this lightly.) A cooler full of ice helps to, since you can drink that water if necessary. If your Jeep doesn't have a navi, get a decent hiker's navi (or a garmin style unit.) CB radio *may* help, but inside a canyon, the range is severely impacted. Make sure you tell someone your plans for the day, and tell them to expect a call that evening. If they don't hear from you for 48 hours, call the Park service, Moab police, or BLM offices. (again, don't take this warning lightly.) It's always better to be safe than REALLY REALLY sorry. I did this, and my friend and I are in our 30s. If I had my daughter with me, I would probably be even more careful. Have emergency food like beef jerky and a box of the highest calorie protein/candy bars you can find. Make sure you have extra gas. Some trails are A LOT longer and slower than you think, and you can burn quite a bit of gas. A day of fun can turn miserable in a hurry. Being prepared will ensure you and your son will have a great time, but stay safe. Some places I went were VERY remote, and I didn't see a soul anywhere near us.
Thanks for the advice. I plan in doing plenty of research and being prepared for the unexpected. A coworker has been out there several times and I will be talking to him a lot to get advice and info. I don't plan on doing a lot of technical off roading, I just want to take in the scenery and make a great memory for my son and myself. We live in TX and my son plays a lot of soccer and football in 100 plus temps so we are really careful to stay hydrated and always have water. I know this can be a hostile environment and plan to be as prepared as I can.

This members on here are great and I am sure I will be seeking some advice
05-19-2013 07:35 PM
Chiringuito Great read and incredible pictures - I'm in the northeast as well and have thought about a trip like that for a while - looks like a great time
05-19-2013 03:52 PM
mgola27
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post

Just make sure you are WELL prepared. If it's only you and your son, I recommend you have a case of water for EACH of you for any given day (don't take this lightly.) A cooler full of ice helps to, since you can drink that water if necessary. If your Jeep doesn't have a navi, get a decent hiker's navi (or a garmin style unit.) CB radio *may* help, but inside a canyon, the range is severely impacted. Make sure you tell someone your plans for the day, and tell them to expect a call that evening. If they don't hear from you for 48 hours, call the Park service, Moab police, or BLM offices. (again, don't take this warning lightly.) It's always better to be safe than REALLY REALLY sorry. I did this, and my friend and I are in our 30s. If I had my daughter with me, I would probably be even more careful. Have emergency food like beef jerky and a box of the highest calorie protein/candy bars you can find. Make sure you have extra gas. Some trails are A LOT longer and slower than you think, and you can burn quite a bit of gas. A day of fun can turn miserable in a hurry. Being prepared will ensure you and your son will have a great time, but stay safe. Some places I went were VERY remote, and I didn't see a soul anywhere near us.
Great tips for us all. Thanks.
05-18-2013 04:22 PM
HK_Runner I have lived in several places and visited several (except Alaska). While it does get a bit hot for my liking in mid-summer, I have not found a place as beautiful, amazing, and anywhere as accessible (trails) as Colorado. California is nice too, as are Washington and Oregon. Hard to live in CA (amazing weather, of course) due to the expense, but either way, it is hard to beat Colorado.
05-18-2013 03:40 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by Moabite View Post
Nice thread. Looks like you had a lotta fun. It's a good thing you didn't try to punch through LaSal Pass...we might have met. You're smarter than most. You'd be surprised at the number of people we rescue from the mountain roads before the snow has had a chance to melt...but it's most often the road to Gateway, CO. In fact, we rescued a couple of people who were stuck in the mud on the north end of the mountain last week...which I think is when you said you were here. I had 1.5 inches of rain at my place in the foothills of the LaSals (Castleton) in 3 days. Actually, LaSal Pass is in San Juan County, but they might have called us anyway since we're a lot closer than San Juan Search and Rescue.

Nice pix...but a little heavy on the HDR (just my opinion). It's easy to do. One trick you might try if you use Photoshop...right click on any thumbnail in Bridge and open it in Camera Raw. Use the adjustment brush to make incredibly fine-tuned adjustments (brightness, saturation, etc.) on any section of an image. I sometimes spend an hour on a single image in Camera Raw before even bringing it into Photoshop...and that is after I've combined the images in Photomatix Pro. I assume you use Photoshop since you're shooting with an $8000 camera body.
Sorry I missed this post! A little unnerving to hear that you actually have to rescue people from there? Just curious, do you charge people for it, or do you work for a search and rescue team that does it no matter what?

As for the HDR, these edits are for forum/sharing use, and were done on my macbook in the cabin. If the images were going to a client or print, they would have 5 hours of editing done to them not to mention, at home on my color corrected monitor and a pitch black office.
05-18-2013 03:27 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by mgola27 View Post
Love it!

Does one just show up in Moab, or is it a scheduled kind of thing?

Regarding your images, I have a few questions:

1. What lens(s) did you use on the 5d3?

2. Did you have/use any on-camera filters (nd/cp) or is your effect all done in post processing?

Very envious of your journey. I've started to get the itch to travel like this (I've never really been anywhere), and this has certainly turned that itch into more of a rash... LOL!
Depends on the time, but no, you don't need to plan it. Short of EJS week, there is always rooms for rent in Moab. The spontaneity was part of the fun actually.

The lenses I use for my 1DsIII (not 5D although the same sensor) vary, but for a place like Moab, I like to shoot wide, so all the photos you see were shot with a 16-35 F2.8 @16mm. If you are looking to buy, save your money, and buy a 17-40L. 1/3rd of the price, and actually sharper. The 1mm isn't worth it. (This only applies if you shoot full frame.)

As for filters, post processing is so powerful today, that other than ND and graduated ND filters (which I did not use for these photos), filters have become obsolete in my opinion.
05-18-2013 03:24 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by dreinecke View Post
Seriously - some of the best pictures of Moab I've ever seen...and I've been there! Awesome place and treacherous if you aren't careful as you found. I do have to say I'm going to re-pack my emergency rations with steak. My wife will think I'm nuts, but if I bring an emergency bottle of wine...

Glad you liked the Colorado portion of the trip once you got off the plains. Those of use that live here love it too.

BTW...there are a few of us Crush JK's out here
Thanks! I don't like Colorado, I LOVE Colorado, and as I said earlier, and looking to relocate my family there sometime in the coming few years! Gods country.
05-17-2013 10:14 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by live_slow View Post
nice work to the OP.
fwiw i sold my NFR S2K AP2 two years ago
I miss it every now and then.
Mine sits in the garage all year . I often feel guilty. Now that I have a daughter we almost never have a chance to take her out. I usually take her out once a year to the dragon but this year I didn't, so in the garage she sleeps. I could never bring myself to sell it (tried to twice.) I fully built everything in that car.
05-17-2013 10:13 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by HK_Runner View Post
Glad you got to come this way...awesome report and pictures. You know- people wonder why (with my 35s) I say that the 4.10 is just okay and that the stock brakes are not just okay. You got a taste of that, but in a big dose!
I never had an issue with stock brakes. They are undersized so I have to allow plenty of room to stop. Sometimes I forget I'm not in my other vehicles and things get hairy however the gears....I think Colorado should get 4.56 from factory lol
05-17-2013 07:33 PM
live_slow nice work to the OP.
fwiw i sold my NFR S2K AP2 two years ago
I miss it every now and then.
05-17-2013 07:21 PM
HK_Runner Glad you got to come this way...awesome report and pictures. You know- people wonder why (with my 35s) I say that the 4.10 is just okay and that the stock brakes are not just okay. You got a taste of that, but in a big dose!
05-17-2013 07:18 PM
YJmaddness
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Originally Posted by rustynail11
Made up my mind after looking at this. my 12 year old son I are going make a road trip out there the first week of August. Since I am in TX the high temps won't bother me since it will more likely be over 100 here anyway.
It is different out there than anywhere else. I ran a few trails last aug and it was breaking 100. Also remember that the ground (rocks, sand) will be just as hot if not hotter. Everywhere you go on the trail will be hot. Lots of water, sun screen, hats and shade are a must. I ran in my old yj with a bikini top and it was not enough shade at times.
Also I would reccomend leaving pets at home. I about killed my dog, she always goes everywhere with me (many summer time 15 mile+ mt bike rides and is a very active weimaraner)but that trip was too much. She ended up riding on my lap for most of poision spyder trail because her seat was in the sun and was burning her.
We talked to a local animal control officer and at 730 pm the side walk temp was 90 deg. NFRS2000 is right about how serious it can become if you don't go prepared.

I will reccomend running fins and things trail. It has some great rock crawling, slick rock driving and views. And is not too difficult.

The guide book really is awesome. Also hit up the visitors center in the middle of town for more info.
05-17-2013 07:15 PM
Utahpete Dave
Nice writeup and photos
Moab is a really special place with most any outdoor activity within easy reach.
It is really best to go out with another vehicle so that if you have a mechanical or get stuck, you aren't stranded.
Always start with a full tank of gas.
Verizon has the best cell service in the area, and generally if you can see the LaSal mountains, you can get service, but don't depend on it.
Anyone coming out here, I would be happy to talk to

Pete
05-17-2013 04:48 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by rustynail11 View Post
Made up my mind after looking at this. my 12 year old son I are going make a road trip out there the first week of August. Since I am in TX the high temps won't bother me since it will more likely be over 100 here anyway.
Just make sure you are WELL prepared. If it's only you and your son, I recommend you have a case of water for EACH of you for any given day (don't take this lightly.) A cooler full of ice helps to, since you can drink that water if necessary. If your Jeep doesn't have a navi, get a decent hiker's navi (or a garmin style unit.) CB radio *may* help, but inside a canyon, the range is severely impacted. Make sure you tell someone your plans for the day, and tell them to expect a call that evening. If they don't hear from you for 48 hours, call the Park service, Moab police, or BLM offices. (again, don't take this warning lightly.) It's always better to be safe than REALLY REALLY sorry. I did this, and my friend and I are in our 30s. If I had my daughter with me, I would probably be even more careful. Have emergency food like beef jerky and a box of the highest calorie protein/candy bars you can find. Make sure you have extra gas. Some trails are A LOT longer and slower than you think, and you can burn quite a bit of gas. A day of fun can turn miserable in a hurry. Being prepared will ensure you and your son will have a great time, but stay safe. Some places I went were VERY remote, and I didn't see a soul anywhere near us.
05-17-2013 04:43 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by Jeeperz Creeperz View Post
Great thread. Thanks!

Did you have cell phone reception in those remote areas? If so there is an app called take me to my car I use when hiking in new areas. You mark where you Jeep is. Go hike and if you get lost, the GPS on the phone will lead you right back.
Most places did not have service. If you are at the top of the canyons you may have a little, but inside the canyons, zero. Remember, GPS doesn't help in the dark, since to walk to point A, you may need to walk through point F, G,H and I first. I knew where the jeep was, but couldn't see the trail to get there.
05-17-2013 04:42 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by County98 View Post
Indeed! Thanks for posting! I want to do Moab as well, but like most, I just have no idea where to go or what to do there. I would do the same as you, probably single vehicle and no rock crawling just to do it, but looking for the big scenic sweeps and WRT, etc.

Do you happen to have a GPS track or something of exactly where you went and how you got from point A to point B?
Just buy this book, it will have everything you need.

Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails: Charles A. Wells, Shelley Mayer: 9781934838068: Amazon.com: Books

Anything green is cakewalk. Anything blue is ok but care needs to be taken and careful tire placement may be required. Anything red save for next time, or rent a polaris in town and go have a blast. None of what I said will make sense until you have the book in front of you.

As for everything else, when you are ready, you can ask me anything you like and I can help you plan the trip. You just need to have a "purpose" in mind....is it a photography trip? Just driving? Relaxing, hiking, etc.
05-17-2013 04:40 PM
rustynail11 Made up my mind after looking at this. my 12 year old son I are going make a road trip out there the first week of August. Since I am in TX the high temps won't bother me since it will more likely be over 100 here anyway.
05-17-2013 04:23 PM
Jeeperz Creeperz Great thread. Thanks!

Did you have cell phone reception in those remote areas? If so there is an app called take me to my car I use when hiking in new areas. You mark where you Jeep is. Go hike and if you get lost, the GPS on the phone will lead you right back.
05-17-2013 02:05 PM
Strokerswild Excellent photos!
05-17-2013 01:17 PM
County98 Indeed! Thanks for posting! I want to do Moab as well, but like most, I just have no idea where to go or what to do there. I would do the same as you, probably single vehicle and no rock crawling just to do it, but looking for the big scenic sweeps and WRT, etc.

Do you happen to have a GPS track or something of exactly where you went and how you got from point A to point B?
05-17-2013 12:14 AM
rapdragon Great write-up and great pics
05-16-2013 10:43 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by jkmohican View Post
NFR, next time you decide to take a Moab trip, you be sure to take a quick cut into Michigan and pick me up. My BBQ skills are earth shattering.
You got it
05-16-2013 10:21 PM
jkmohican NFR, next time you decide to take a Moab trip, you be sure to take a quick cut into Michigan and pick me up. My BBQ skills are earth shattering.
05-16-2013 09:47 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by GlobalResponder View Post
The pictures are INCREDIBLE!! The color on your Wrangler just POPS too in those pics!

Great stuff here! Living here in SoCal, I have no excuse to not get out there one day myself.

Thanks for the story!
No jeeper has an excuse for not visiting Moab if they live inside 1000 miles of it!!!! Get to gettin!
05-16-2013 08:33 PM
chucky cheese Good thread. Captivating.
05-16-2013 04:12 PM
GlobalResponder The pictures are INCREDIBLE!! The color on your Wrangler just POPS too in those pics!

Great stuff here! Living here in SoCal, I have no excuse to not get out there one day myself.

Thanks for the story!
05-16-2013 03:22 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by Matador View Post
Maybe I'll see you there. We plan on heading out of NY Aug. 15.
Unless you will be loading up your flux capacitor and reach 88 miles per hour, I doubt it, since Im going in August '14, as in, 2014.
05-16-2013 02:57 PM
Matador
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
August in Moab? You'll be dead. It's like 115 degrees there!

Im planning my next trip, which will be August of 14, but that one is going to be in Colorado.

Maybe I'll see you there. We plan on heading out of NY Aug. 15.
05-16-2013 01:55 PM
Moabite
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
Really? It was supposed to be 93 this week, so I figured things would only get worse as the summer progresses. I know that even in the book the author warns of heat on many of the trails.
Yes...it has been over 90 this week...but that's above normal for this time of year. Still, it can get rather uncomfortable out on the trails anytime the temperature tops 100. But the high in Moab has not been above 107 in the last few years. The record high for Moab is 114. I'll try to pm you with a link to my weatherstation and live weathercam. One problem we have here is that the "official" weather station is at the airport...about 20 miles outside of town and at a higher elevation. The temperatures reported are often way off what it actually is in Moab. There are several personal weather stations on Weather Underground that give a more accurate picture of the local weather.
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