|11-12-2013 05:58 PM|
|indirocz28||From what I have been reading and researching about so far is that the 2014MY filter change is not something that is able to be retrofitted on to the 2012/2013MY 3.6L engines.|
|11-07-2013 11:24 PM|
|Lusus_Naturae||Now that the '14 is out, has anybody looked at what it would take to change a '12 or '13 to the '14 filter? How many parts are different and would you even want to do it? (aside from warranty issues due to changing it)|
|11-07-2013 07:53 PM|
|c_caz||I test drove a few 2013s before getting my 2014. One of the 2013s was noisy as hell as at startup for about 5 seconds. The other completely quiet. My 2014? Also completely quiet. I think some of the 13s are louder and some quiet.|
|11-07-2013 06:39 PM|
|LMT Rubi||I wish my 2013 JKR isn't affected by this!!|
|11-07-2013 12:32 PM|
|11-07-2013 11:30 AM|
|i82much||Haven't heard much about '13 that have gotten a head replaced, any more news on this? Seems to be fairly isolated? Or just wishful thinking on my part ...|
|07-30-2013 06:23 PM|
|2013JKBulldog||Sounds like it needs a constant electrical oil pump|
|07-30-2013 06:17 PM|
|Jeep_88||Just took my 2013 JKUR in at 24K as it has appeared louder than it did when new, especially in my parakade at work where it echos off the wall. I compared the noise to youtube vidoes I found regarding the Pentastar tick and it sounded the same to me, especially when I recorded the noise and listened to both on my computer. After taking it to the dealership today they told me that the noise is from the injectors and there's nothing to worry about, many people have done the same thing apparently so we'll see if I end up having issues down the line. As per the comment above the Pentastar is loud on startup, it sounds the same as it does after you change the oil every startup, like the motor is running without oil for the first few seconds, I guess that's why approximately 50% of engine wear is from engine start-up from what I've heard from mechanics.|
|06-12-2013 10:49 AM|
|Ceccacci||I sat out the 2012's hoping the problem would be fixed, but bought one of the first 2013's back in August. Over 13K miles on it now, no problems. Yet. But then, I was nervous enough about all the reported problems to pay $2K for the lifetime warranty... so I'm not really worried about it anymore. If it breaks, I'll be inconvenienced, but they'll fix it.|
|06-12-2013 10:09 AM|
|Motoman01||Just got my 2012 Wrangler Unlimited (early production 2012 model) back from the dealer. About 6 weeks ago I got a check engine light I took it in and it showed a misfire on the # 4 cylinder. They uploaded a new program to the ECU, they drove it for 27 miles -- no codes. We took it home and about two days later the light came back on -- Took it back and it had a # 4 Cylinder mifre code again. They replaced the spark plug, plug wire, and coil -- didn't fix it so they put a cylinder head on order -- the cylinder heads were on national back order. After waiting a month the head came in and they replaced it. When they pulled the original head one of the valves was stuck part way open. My left cylinder head was always somewhat noisier than the right side -- so I always had the concern. Since they replaced it the left side is as quiet as the right side. Keeping my fingers crossed now. It has just under 16K miles on it.|
|05-20-2013 08:47 AM|
7500/1,300,000 = 0.5769%
I can't check their 7,500 count, but their division isn't that bad...
Even one JK is inexcusable (especially if it's mine), but 7,500 JKs would be a LOT.
|05-19-2013 09:11 PM|
VERY POOR SAD ENGINEERING..............
|05-19-2013 09:10 PM|
|05-19-2013 09:04 PM|
I just double checked my manufacturing date of my 2013 on my drivers door Feb 13, scary, because they were on the line the same day! The odds of that happening in Vegas has to be way out there. Mine also makes some noise at start up!
|05-19-2013 08:52 PM|
I have a '13 built in Nov '12 and a '13 built in Feb '13. Both tick after sitting for a long time and both have loud injectors. Both also have some sort of valve or lifter tick during normal operation. None of what I hear from them is any different than what you can hear from any modern engine, especially one designed for 5w-20 oil. My '05 Mustang GT ticked all the time, was deemed normal by Ford, and lived a happy life until I traded it in at 110k miles. I think we're still in a time period where people aren't fully comfortable with engines that have tight tolerances, use lightweight oil, and (most importantly) are so quiet that every single little tick sounds extra loud.
While the 2012 defective head is very real, it seems that mass hysteria is our real problem now.
|05-19-2013 08:42 PM|
What I have found out after doing a lot of research is that our 3.6 engine does not have a ADBV incorporated into the oil filtering system. So what's happening is that when you shut off your engine the oil that was in the filter canister drains back to the oil pan. At start up there is a lag time for that filter to fill back up, therefore we hear some tick/rattle on start up. My 2013 does it, but it is very minor to some that I have driven. I road tested about 6 different Wranglers at different Dealers, before buying mine. They all make this noise, some are a little loader than others, mine is one of the quieter ones, but it still does it. IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND THAT CHRYSLER WOULD NOT HAVE ENGINEERED A ADBV VALVE IN OUR CURRENT PRODUCTION ENGINES. I SENT A E-MAIL THROUGH THEIR TECH SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND ASKED AS TO WHY AND THEY NEVER RESPONDED BACK TO ME.
This is just a oil starvation sound that we are hearing at start up, and to the best of my knowledge has nothing to do with the cylinder head issue.
IF I AM WRONG AND THERE IS A ADBV IN THE 3.6 THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHERE IT IS AT IN THE ENGINE................
|05-19-2013 08:09 PM|
|HK_Runner||Nothing Fiat about it either way.|
|05-19-2013 08:06 PM|
My 2 cents....Think about it?
Im confused, does chrysler still own jeep or does fiat own jeep now? - Yahoo! Answers
|05-19-2013 07:21 PM|
|HK_Runner||They are saying 1% SO FAR. I am thinking that 1% will keep going up. I wish they would come out and tell us exactly what causes this. Sounds like ambiguous and shady BS to avoid a recall or something. Great...my first new American vehicle.|
|05-19-2013 11:16 AM|
This is so disappointing. I was so proud to buy an American Made Vehicle again, even though a lot of parts are made else where.
After the initial valve rattle at start up, mine has a mild ticking sound, but I think, I hope, it's just sound coming from the fuel injectors.
|05-19-2013 10:43 AM|
|05-08-2013 11:34 AM|
|05-08-2013 06:54 AM|
I also don't trust dealers very well, our good dealer told us we had an oil leak coming from the oil pan in the Sebring. They gave us a $500 bill to do it because of the labor required. The leak wasn't bad, so I got it up on the lift to really look at it (the only reason I really like that dealer, I'm allowed in the shop to look at my vehicle). I poke around under there and find the oil pan leak is a oil sensor leaking behind a shield and running along the oil pan lip. I take it home, buy the part for $25, and take it over to my friend that has a lift and do it myself. Your dealer is only as good as the techs working there.
|05-08-2013 06:43 AM|
Shows how to ID the head.
|05-08-2013 03:05 AM|
|05-08-2013 12:48 AM|
Oct build date, I get some light valve rattle on startup if it sits for more than a day. It goes away after 10-20 seconds. 8500 miles so far and no check engine lights.
I got the lifetime warranty so I will not complain unless it gets worse.
|05-08-2013 12:34 AM|
|bzffr8||Bought our 2013 Jeep on April 12th 2013. Build date on door is March 13th. At 580 miles while on a trail, the check engine light comes on. Everything feels okay and it runs okay. Went directly to dealer in Yucca Valley Ca, and DTC code was P0306 misfire cly 6, plus a code of P2099 Downstream fuel rich. Dealer says that I need to have the head replaced. So yes I guess it has spilled way over into the 2013 model year.|
|12-09-2012 02:44 PM|
|HRR1||How did you get that picture? There are wires and connections in front of mine. All I can see is the _ _ 3000 at the bottom.|
|12-08-2012 09:52 PM|
|mjpjr45||Got mine in Sept, now has 2900 miles, and no ticking yet. I was never a Chrysler fan, but I am a bit impressed with this engine. It is surprisingly peppy. Just wish it had a bit more lower end torque.|
|12-08-2012 05:19 PM|
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