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06-03-2014 02:43 PM
Kthulhu
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuaqKdA7VjA">YouTube Link</a>
Yeah the tv show is more brutal, Martin's more into the incest. If they find bodies buried in his basement someday it wouldn't surprise me. Just sayin'...
06-03-2014 02:21 PM
st1264 [youtube]zuaqKdA7VjA[/youtube]
06-02-2014 01:21 PM
Kthulhu
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Originally Posted by CoreyZ View Post
But did Clegane really die? I mean, he was stabbed... but obviously he had some life in him and they never said anything regarding him being dead, just lying there.
In the book he dies and kills Oberyn just before bleeding out, but who knows. The TV series has deviated on several story lines. There are characters dead in the book that are still alive on the TV series and visa versa.
06-02-2014 12:46 PM
RATyson
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I just wanted Oberyn to turn around and toss a dagger at Tywin Lannister prior to finishing Sandor, ugh.
I'm a Tywin fan... I was actually bummed a bit when Oberyn got his noodle squished.

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But did Clegane really die? I mean, he was stabbed... but obviously he had some life in him and they never said anything regarding him being dead, just lying there.
Good point. My assumption is that being run through with that spear was probably going to end him sooner or later though. The timing is what is important in a trial by combat (afaik); The first to die is the looser, no matter when the fatal blow is cast.

Methinks Oberyn probably should have skewered his noggin when he had the chance.
06-02-2014 10:40 AM
CoreyZ But did Clegane really die? I mean, he was stabbed... but obviously he had some life in him and they never said anything regarding him being dead, just lying there.
06-02-2014 10:34 AM
Bullethead I just wanted Oberyn to turn around and toss a dagger at Tywin Lannister prior to finishing Sandor, ugh.
06-02-2014 10:25 AM
RATyson
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I guess because Viper died first? I'm not sure how this is to play out. Maybe Vesyrs has the aincient trial by combat rule book handy?
^^ This.

The Viper did land a fatal blow to Clegane, however, Clegane ultimately won because he actually killed the Viper prior to his own death.

One day I will read the books, but there is one thing I have learned from watching the series: Never get attached to any character... They are all up for the slaughter at any given moment. They are all expendable crew members. I think this is one of the reasons I like it so much.
06-02-2014 10:21 AM
Kthulhu Yeah, that's how it played out in the book as well. Reading the book I was thinking the same thing; he killed Clegane so why doesn't the imp go free? What difference does it make if his champion died in the process? If they both die isn't it a tie? Sudden death overtime? Lol
06-02-2014 10:08 AM
Bullethead I guess because Viper died first? I'm not sure how this is to play out. Maybe Vesyrs has the aincient trial by combat rule book handy?
06-02-2014 09:08 AM
CAWillie He broke the first rule of killing.....NEVER dialog. Kill them.....Don't dialog with them! Had he never watched The Incredibles?

But the imp's champion still killed the king's assassin....even if he died doing it.....why does the imp still have to die?
06-02-2014 08:52 AM
CoreyZ Yeah... I was the same way

Seriously was like "HOLY S**&!!!!!!!!" when it happened... then got sad. Was hoping he would be one of my favorite characters.
06-02-2014 05:16 AM
Bullethead I'm so...distraught. I should have seen that coming ... I'm not in the mood to discuss this episode yet . Perhaps later.
06-02-2014 04:49 AM
st1264 I think you know why. That was just awesome! Can you believe there's only 2 episodes left!!!

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04-30-2014 08:19 AM
Bullethead
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Originally Posted by JeeperzXKreeperz View Post
Just waiting for calisie to take over kings landing lol
Keep waiting lol. From everything I've heard ... just get comfy.
04-29-2014 10:56 AM
st1264 Last episode wasn't as suspenseful... not sure what to make of the 'whitewalkers'.

Jamie Lannister definitely has redeeming qualities.
04-29-2014 08:39 AM
JeeperzXKreeperz Just waiting for calisie to take over kings landing lol
04-22-2014 01:20 PM
Bullethead Perhaps they brought him back just to close out season 3?
04-22-2014 11:54 AM
Bullethead I heard about how that scene occurred in the book and I don't think I'm spoiling anything by saying this but from what I heard that scene is supposed to be the 1st time Cersei see's Jamie return from the war correct?

That would make it more of a passion incestual scene than what we saw. I agree that probably would have been better. Even for television. I am trying to think about what we saw when Jamie got back to the city that was so important that he had to be back prior to Joffery's death.

Got his Hand, Got a Valyrian Sword, Tyrion and Jamie bonded once again, Jamie trains with Bronn, and Jamie threatens Sir Lorras ... The only thing that I can see the show runners wanting to do first is reinforce the Tyrion and Jamie love but he can do that when he visits him in the dungeon.

Still a good episode imo, but yes that scene sounded better in the books.
04-22-2014 09:36 AM
hbgirl
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Definitely looked like rape... I was rather surprised to see that, but G.O.T pulls no punches.
It did, that's why it was so upsetting; definitely not how it happened in the book. Some changes I totally understand, but this one, not at all. Didn't do anything for the storyline at all, except make you want to hate Jaime again.

Haha, sorry all ... I just realized that I'm too "protective" of keeping to the storyline as it happens in the books, which isn't what this thread is about. I need to let go of the book thing, and just take the show as a stand-alone, by itself story. I'm still wishing I hadn't read the books first ...

Sorry!
04-22-2014 09:26 AM
st1264 Definitely looked like rape... I was rather surprised to see that, but G.O.T pulls no punches.
04-22-2014 08:49 AM
hbgirl
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It did, I was not even aware the end of the hour was close. I was just absorbing everything so much. So Petre (Peter?) now has the ability to 'make a Stark'. I am going to assume (probably wrongly) that he also has an army, the Vale. Are we looking at the makings of the new "North"?

I am a little upset however that Stanis is again worried about the throne. When we last left him, the Red Priestess told him something to the effect of "This battle for the throne is meaningless, the real war lies to the north, beyond the wall". How quick we forget priorities eh?

Petyr Like I said before, he has his hands in all the cookie jars.

Re: Stanis ... generally speaking, I'd think it would be extremely difficult to just "let it go." The greed flows through all of Westeros with the air they breathe.

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Brother and Sister banging each other next to the corpse of their dead son, nice. I was hoping the show was better than that. They seemed to figure out after season one that the story held it's own without all the shock and awe sex scenes. The scene doesn't add anything to the story. Just another, let's shock the viewers moment. After reading the books I wouldn't be surprised if the author is caught someday burying bodies in his basement.
In all fairness, GRRM has never said that his books weren't very adult. It's fantasy. The show is trying to make it PG-13'ish while still trying to keep some essence of the books, and it will fail. As someone who read the books, this particular scene has me upset for different reasons, and the scene itself in the book is important: Jaime in no way is the bad guy in this situation (in the book) and it's part of the process of him redeeming himself; overtime you slowly become to like him, and they've incorporated some of that growth in the show. However, the show completely botched this particular part and turned it around and made him look like a rapist. Very poor decision on the showrunners' part.
04-22-2014 08:45 AM
Kthulhu Brother and Sister banging each other next to the corpse of their dead son, nice. I was hoping the show was better than that. They seemed to figure out after season one that the story held it's own without all the shock and awe sex scenes. The scene doesn't add anything to the story. Just another, let's shock the viewers moment. After reading the books I wouldn't be surprised if the author is caught someday burying bodies in his basement.
04-22-2014 04:52 AM
Bullethead It did, I was not even aware the end of the hour was close. I was just absorbing everything so much. So Petre (Peter?) now has the ability to 'make a Stark'. I am going to assume (probably wrongly) that he also has an army, the Vale. Are we looking at the makings of the new "North"?

I am a little upset however that Stanis is again worried about the throne. When we last left him, the Red Priestess told him something to the effect of "This battle for the throne is meaningless, the real war lies to the north, beyond the wall". How quick we forget priorities eh?
04-21-2014 10:03 AM
st1264 That hour flew by last night... great show.
04-21-2014 08:56 AM
hbgirl Haha, yeah ... and things always move slower in books.
04-21-2014 07:05 AM
Bullethead Oh Petre Baelish. You sly devil you!

My lady friend is a bit upset that they revealed the puppet master so soon. I must admit, even I would have been ok if they waited a few episodes to reveal it. But there must be a reason they did this. Probably to keep Sansa in the show rather than have her disappear for 3 or 4 weeks.
04-16-2014 10:14 AM
Bullethead Oh no I'm just speaking as if all of us are non-book readers. Thank you for not spoiling
04-16-2014 08:48 AM
hbgirl
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Back to the show, is Bronn as awesome in the book as he is in the show?

Another "unsullied" had a theory that Cersei offed Jofferey. They pointed to her wanting to remain queen regent, not wanting to marry Loras, and perhaps trying to kill Margery but accidently killing Joffery.
I think its a bit of a stretch but a good number of people I've spoken with like Cersei as the assassin. The only thing I found suspicious of her was sending away Maester Aamon. I did not get the point of that at all.
Yes, Bronn is as awesome, but as with everything in Westeros ... all are not who they seem (speaking from the books; who knows what direction they will go in the show).

Re: Cersei as the puppetmaster behind the poisoning: It's an interesting theory; I'm trying not to be spoiler'ish in my responses, so I'll just ask if you want any kind of confirmation that it is, or isn't, a correct train of thought?
04-16-2014 07:55 AM
Bullethead The book does sound just awesome. I'd love to read them, I'm 1/3rd of the way through Book 1, but Season 1 was almost verbatim I kind of want to skip to book two or three.

Back to the show, is Bronn as awesome in the book as he is in the show?

Another "unsullied" had a theory that Cersei offed Jofferey. They pointed to her wanting to remain queen regent, not wanting to marry Loras, and perhaps trying to kill Margery but accidently killing Joffery.
I think its a bit of a stretch but a good number of people I've spoken with like Cersei as the assassin. The only thing I found suspicious of her was sending away Maester Aamon. I did not get the point of that at all.
04-15-2014 08:47 PM
SupahMinah Read the books watched both the wedding scenes and thought they were both awesome. The show stays true to the book but not the same.
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