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04-17-2012 11:34 PM
ALASKA99TJ i dont know if anyone out there has any opinions on the CSI winches. I run on on my 99 tj, and on a semi regular basis drag my neighbors f250 over 100 yards (300 feet) up a steep incline because he gets stuck in the same place!! i also use it wheeling out in the deep snows of alaska. the only bitch i have about it is that the free spool quit working this last winter. but i think its a simple tear down and lube fix. oh yeah its a 12,000lb. doestn even grunt when its pulling the jeep doestn matter the angle. plus they are reasonalble for a winch at that pulling power. to my understanding they use the same planitary gears as the warn so take it for what its worth.
04-17-2012 09:40 PM
07XMan2Door
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Originally Posted by Racer38 View Post
I just got a Gen II Superwinch 8500 for $299. I have had Warn and Ramsey and in my opinion you are paying for the name. I have only used it a couple of times and its more than capable on a Jeep ! If you have never needed a Winch you should get out of the Mall Parking lots a little that should stir things up a bit
On my way to the mall, lol. Potato Salad Hill, Moab Jeep Safari 2012


Bought my neigbors new Smilltybuilt. It was either that or wait a long while for the Warn. I'll build a bumper & try it out! Thanks for all the info guys!
04-17-2012 09:24 PM
Jonny15
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Originally Posted by ShakaZulu8402
I dunno how handy you are but you might try looking on eBay or Craigslist for an older used warn. Warn carries parts for all their winches and if you are not afraid to tear one open then that is a cheaper option. There was an article a few months ago in one of the offroad mags, which I conveniently can't find right now, that detailed the tear down and repair of an older warn. If you just look around for one of the abundant 8274 winches you can usually find a used one for a couple hundred or cheaper (depending on condition). Good luck
They just talked about this in the latest issue of jp magazine as well. Warn still sells parts for all their old winches so you can try to find a used one for cheap and repair it cheap too if it needs it.

They also talked about how chinese made winches have drastically increased in quality lately. They're obviously still not on the same level as a warn, but if your low on cash the chinese made winches are a decent option...better than nothing!
04-17-2012 08:25 PM
ShakaZulu8402 I dunno how handy you are but you might try looking on eBay or Craigslist for an older used warn. Warn carries parts for all their winches and if you are not afraid to tear one open then that is a cheaper option. There was an article a few months ago in one of the offroad mags, which I conveniently can't find right now, that detailed the tear down and repair of an older warn. If you just look around for one of the abundant 8274 winches you can usually find a used one for a couple hundred or cheaper (depending on condition). Good luck
04-17-2012 07:13 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Racer38 View Post
I just got a Gen II Superwinch 8500 for $299. I have had Warn and Ramsey and in my opinion you are paying for the name. I have only used it a couple of times and its more than capable on a Jeep !
In my personal opinion, "a couple times" of use is not enough experience with a winch to make a forecast on its long-term reliability like is well known with Warn, Ramsey, Milemarker's hydraulics, and Superwinch's two remaining American made winches. Especially since Superwinch's winches are all, with the exception of their S9000 and X9, made in China.
04-17-2012 07:03 PM
Plowboy1970 After reading here about all winches, I made up my mind to get a Warn. But being cheap I kept my nose on Craigslist until a Warn showed up. Got a XD9000i for $400 Others have found the same good deals. Being a machinist and having to fix China made junk, I know what they make......junk!!!
04-17-2012 02:13 PM
Racer38
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Originally Posted by Jeepzcb09 View Post
what do you guys think of Super winch?
I just got a Gen II Superwinch 8500 for $299. I have had Warn and Ramsey and in my opinion you are paying for the name. I have only used it a couple of times and its more than capable on a Jeep ! If you have never needed a Winch you should get out of the Mall Parking lots a little that should stir things up a bit
04-17-2012 09:58 AM
07XMan2Door
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Unless it says Warn, Tabor, Ramsey, or is the X9 or S9000 from Superwinch, it's imported from China. Those are the only four American-made electric winch brands I am aware of. Milemarker makes their hydraulic winches here in the U.S. but their electric winches come from China.

Personally, I would never buy a Chinese-made winch. A winch is one of those things that is really more of a safety thing and could even be considered a piece of survival gear. Because of that, I wouldn't have a Chinese winch on my Jeep. Chinese quality is hit or miss and if you read the newspapers talking about everything from baby formula and drywall, it's more miss than hit.

Not to mention the Chinese are in an economic war with us. The Chinese government has devalued the Yen artificially by 40% which is seriously (!) hurting the U.S. economy by making Chinese goods so cheap to buy that it's causing a major drain of American dollars and a loss of U.S. jobs. China knows exactly what they are doing.
We need to start a thread titled, "JUST ASK JERRY".

All the posts that I've read of yours seem to be dead balls on accurate. This sux today cause I have a, never used XRC8 winch with 96ft of synthetic line, a polished aluminum fairlead, two winchplates & a cover sitting in my garage. my neighbor wants to unload it on me for 300 bucks. Was going to buy it, but now.

I'm trying to design a front bumper around this winch.

My problem is I have never come close to needing one YET. I hate the extra weight that I'll be packing ALL of the time. But I hear ya, it's insurance. Sux to be stuck out in the boonies, I could freeze to death, wander aimlessly through dark, unfamiliar country looking for a jeeper with a Warn winch, or slide off a mtn side & lose my jeep or a limb or worse.

I've read some positive testimonials about the XRC8, but horror stories as well. I'm so funcused.
10-13-2010 11:19 PM
IslandTJ
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Originally Posted by village idiot View Post
Where can I get a Superwench like IslandTJ's ?
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Yeah really.
You guys bring the LOL..
10-13-2010 07:28 PM
03 RUBI Get an American made winch. I've had the same 8000# Ramsey, first on my CJ5 and now it's on my Rubicon. It was bought in 1986 and is still going strong.
10-13-2010 03:23 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by village idiot View Post
Where can I get a Superwench like IslandTJ's ?
Yeah really.
10-13-2010 03:22 PM
village idiot Where can I get a Superwench like IslandTJ's ?
10-13-2010 10:23 AM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Unless it says Warn, Tabor, Ramsey, or is the X9 or S9000 from Superwinch, it's imported from China. Those are the only four American-made electric winch brands I am aware of. Milemarker makes their hydraulic winches here in the U.S. but their electric winches come from China.

Personally, I would never buy a Chinese-made winch. A winch is one of those things that is really more of a safety thing and could even be considered a piece of survival gear. Because of that, I wouldn't have a Chinese winch on my Jeep. Chinese quality is hit or miss and if you read the newspapers talking about everything from baby formula and drywall, it's more miss than hit.

Not to mention the Chinese are in an economic war with us. The Chinese government has devalued the Yen artificially by 40% which is seriously (!) hurting the U.S. economy by making Chinese goods so cheap to buy that it's causing a major drain of American dollars and a loss of U.S. jobs. China knows exactly what they are doing.
China is a bunch of commie ***lickers
10-13-2010 09:29 AM
Ibuildembig Yeah they are still making them though, we put alot of two way radios in wreckers and that's pretty much all they use. They are stought as hell, but also slow as hell lol
10-13-2010 09:26 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
I believe pierce is made here too
I believe you're right but I haven't seen a Pierce winch around or even advertised in years.
10-13-2010 09:24 AM
Ibuildembig I believe pierce is made here too
10-13-2010 09:19 AM
Jerry Bransford Unless it says Warn, Tabor, Ramsey, or is the X9 or S9000 from Superwinch, it's imported from China. Those are the only four American-made electric winch brands I am aware of. Milemarker makes their hydraulic winches here in the U.S. but their electric winches come from China.

Personally, I would never buy a Chinese-made winch. A winch is one of those things that is really more of a safety thing and could even be considered a piece of survival gear. Because of that, I wouldn't have a Chinese winch on my Jeep. Chinese quality is hit or miss and if you read the newspapers talking about everything from baby formula and drywall, it's more miss than hit.

Not to mention the Chinese are in an economic war with us. The Chinese government has devalued the Yen artificially by 40% which is seriously (!) hurting the U.S. economy by making Chinese goods so cheap to buy that it's causing a major drain of American dollars and a loss of U.S. jobs. China knows exactly what they are doing.
10-13-2010 07:53 AM
Bradyu123 Unless ur wheeling every day go with a cheap smitty built Winch I've used mine about 8 times and is worth every penny. It may be slower then ether winches but it still whips the jeep around like a toy
10-13-2010 01:58 AM
McKay Has anyone heard of, and knows if the ProMark Offroad Silverback Series 8000lb winch is any good?
12-19-2009 07:24 AM
coyote99 im not sure about the whole east to west coast, but it sounds like the guy sells mile markers, i almost bought a mile marker but after many bad reviews i went with the superwinch

Dont buy from quadratec, the lowest price i found was amazon and they have free shipping
Amazon.com: Superwinch 09034 EPi9.0 Series Master Winch: Automotive

I have it and used it plenty, the greatest feat so far was dragging an xj sideways 30 feet up a good 60 degree embankment on the side of the interstate after a huge snowstorm, i was sitting on part of the interstate to do it but there was zero traffic because the roads were so bad, i wouldnt have risked my jeep like that normally, but it was an older guy, he was low on gas, and the tow truck eta was a minimum of four hours out, either way its a great winch
12-19-2009 06:04 AM
JeepnJim Ah San Diego. I was stationed there at Balboa for Hospital Corpsman training in the navy. 1982.
12-18-2009 11:53 PM
terrible2 Ah man Im from oregon but stationed elsewhere. I severely miss oregon = (
12-18-2009 08:14 PM
Timberman
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Originally Posted by wasurfer86 View Post
i thought my mind was made up on superwinch but today i went shopping at my local 4x4 store and the guy told me that superwich is an east coast company. problem with that is im on the west coast so if something were to break on it i would have to ship it and deal with that whole mess. the guy there started talking up mile marker quite a bit. i read that winches in hell article and the mile marker they tested didnt even make it past the first pull. anybody ever have any problems with mile marker?
Uh Dude... you're in Washington..... Warn is in clackamas, OR (just outside of portland). Is that close enough for you?

Make the right choice man! Like I said previously; there are tons of deals out there on warn right now..
12-18-2009 07:02 PM
wasurfer86 i thought my mind was made up on superwinch but today i went shopping at my local 4x4 store and the guy told me that superwich is an east coast company. problem with that is im on the west coast so if something were to break on it i would have to ship it and deal with that whole mess. the guy there started talking up mile marker quite a bit. i read that winches in hell article and the mile marker they tested didnt even make it past the first pull. anybody ever have any problems with mile marker?
12-18-2009 01:31 PM
wasurfer86
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Originally Posted by IslandTJ View Post
I have a Superwinch epi9 and it has never let me down. It is quite fast and has the solenoid integrated within its housing. Performs well in extremely wet conditions (it rains a lot in Oregon). The only downside for me is the winch's weight, it is heavy at 114lbs.

When I purchased my epi9, it also came with a snatch block and fairlead roller, which I thought were nice additions . You may want to read the article below for some comparison amongst popular winches.

Jeep Articles / General (Winches In Hell) - MoabJeeper Magazine
that was a really informative article and it has helped me make a choice on which one ill go with. epi9 sounds like the winch for me. i dont really plan on ever doing any extreme 4x4 but if that changes it looks like the epi9 can hold its own against a warn. plus that extra 500 id save can go to buying a better brush guard set up. thanks for the input everybody
12-18-2009 11:33 AM
Reise Ó Fearáin Wow...........there are places to cheap out and places NOT to. Go with the best and strongest u can FIT. Cost too much money, then save more money. I have had, and been with allot of the lesser winches after they fail in not so spectacular pulls. Hey, lets cheap out on the roll cage (not the factory speaker holder). Does that scare you, then a cheap winch should too. if it unloads and quits in an uphill pull, or in a down hill slow drop controlled by the winch, maybe the cheapo method was not best ? Or you just happen to stick it someplace pretty tame, at four o'clock in December, while it is snowing/raining/slushy crappy ass snow on a road out of the job-site. Worse yet, your family, or even the dog, is with you. Pull out the winch line and tree saver and get yourself out. Baaaad time to have a winch take a vacation. A winch is a tool, one you need to keep with you on the off chance you HAVE to use it. It is not about looks and being cool. Buy quality, go big, get dependability. Your Chinese winch leaves you stranded the best case scenario is that you just got a long walk home.
12-18-2009 11:30 AM
IslandTJ I have a Superwinch epi9 and it has never let me down. It is quite fast and has the solenoid integrated within its housing. Performs well in extremely wet conditions (it rains a lot in Oregon). The only downside for me is the winch's weight, it is heavy at 114lbs.

When I purchased my epi9, it also came with a snatch block and fairlead roller, which I thought were nice additions . You may want to read the article below for some comparison amongst popular winches.

Jeep Articles / General (Winches In Hell) - MoabJeeper Magazine
12-18-2009 10:40 AM
2002Apex It looks like that rugged ridge has some of the same characteristics as the smittybilt brand. Same solenoid box, actuator. Different engage knob though. May have subbed out the same manufacturer to create their stuff, if so, it may not be that bad.
12-18-2009 08:19 AM
JeepnJim Hell, I've used a come-along many times but I'm just an ol' Southeast Missourian. Maybe I'll get winch around income tax refund time. That $299 xrc8 is looking affordable and no more than I wheel it should be fine for the one or two times I actually need a little tug here and there. Maybe I'll put a Warn cover on it, hee heee heee.
12-18-2009 01:10 AM
kdukes4 i feel like its tough to find the perfect winch now a days. everyone has their own expectations and budget, and i think finding the product that will meet those exceptional levels is pretty tough. since May i've been trying to figure out what to go with. i've read almost every thread here, and have spoken to everyone off-road about their set ups and reviews. IF i had the dough, then the warn would be my weapon of choice, M8000, however as a soon to be college graduate, i just can't afford that kind of expense. after reading some reviews from jpmag and other sites, i decided to go with the xrc8. for $350, i bought the winch and a lifetime warranty that fully covers any defects on or off road. i know in jp, they really tested this winch hardcore and they were impressed with its performance. for me, i think it should work out fine. i don't plan to pull 10 people out in a day. i also have friends in the local club who have smittys and love them! they also love the customer service, one guy had his solenoid go, smitty replaced it with no questions or warranty.
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