|02-07-2011 08:44 PM|
That's awesome that Chrysler covered those issues for you. Is the issue with the 6spd jumping out of gear something common? Is there any idea of what causes this to happen?
I had my 4L60E transmission in my Camaro go bad at around 135,000 miles, then had it rebuilt, and the rebuild didn't last 15,000 miles. Then, I had it rebuilt again, and it exploded. The THIRD rebuild was apparently the charm. I don't blame GM for these disasters, but the "highly recommended" shops that did shoddy work.
|02-07-2011 07:21 PM|
I'm fairly new to this forum...but not forums. On JK, GC SRT8, Swede speed, G35 Driver - now this one.
I've had 11 or so Jeeps since 1997 - and of all the cars I have owned (44 total - Jeep to BMW to Volvo to Saab to Infiniti) the Jeeps have always had the least amount of issues. The only major one (if you can call it that) was the first off the line 2007 Sahara in black where they missed painting a part of the body inside the door panels and you could see primer. All mechanical stuff has been a walk in the park compared to my other brands.
The 11's - which i'm buying my Sahara this week - address the luxo/noise issues with the interior. 12 will address the power. Whatever really - this is a Jeep not a LuxoSUV - it's not supposed to go 0-100 in 12 seconds.
Here's a few pics of my various babies....just so you know I'm for real...
Jeeps rock...and they roll over almost everything.
|02-07-2011 06:40 PM|
|02-07-2011 06:03 PM|
I own an 08 JK Unlimited 74,000 miles
I like my jeep But
I have replaced the back and front brakes
There are not enough cup holders
Seems to not have enough power
Seems to burn oil and Jeep has no answer and I change my oil every 3000 miles
I have not had any problems with anything breaking or no Death Wobble
The only thing I have done to my jeep is a Tera Flex 2.5 lift and other minor mods
Everybody will have their own thing to say about what they live or hate about the jeep
I suggest you ask questions and read what you can find and go test drive one. Then make up your mind.
|02-07-2011 04:23 PM|
|02-07-2011 12:37 PM|
|02-07-2011 12:33 PM|
|pokey||Is there any word from Chrysler about using a different manual tranny in the 2012's ? I just looked up the NSG370 on Wikipedia and it says the tranny is "sourced from Mercedes" so you would think it would be a decent tranny. It also said it likes synthetic fluid like Redline MTL. I wonder if that would make any difference with the JOG issue. And do you guys think the JOG issue is overblown? like maybe only one out of 1000 have a problem? I know the '05 and '06 TJs had the same tranny and I don't see much on the TJ forum about a JOG problem in those years. I'm doing my homework in case I decide to get a JK down the road|
|02-07-2011 12:13 PM|
|02-07-2011 12:04 PM|
|daggo66||I've had issues with GM transmissions, but never Chrylser. My first Jeep was an AMC 1980 CJ7. It had a Chrysler automatic transmission in it and never had an issue.|
|02-07-2011 11:46 AM|
Good luck with your Jeep when you get it. I think you'll be fine.
|02-07-2011 10:15 AM|
TO FOLLOWUP ON (CON ARTIST) WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ??
I've had 3 Dodge Ramchargers and one Cuda all with A727 auto trannys-abused/raced/strained for a total of probably 250,000 miles-NEVER HAD A MOMENT of TROUBLE-
Now with my '08 JKU, because of the overheating (Possibility), I've corrected that and the tranny is great-
I've also employed an AEVPM to mod shift points, because of lift/tires/ wheels/trailer-etc
The 6-speed manual has troublee with Jumping outta Gear (JOG) and that has been close to distasterous, so pick and choose-
The 2012 JK/JKU is rumored to be using the 5-spd AUTO-I don't know which one, but I'll always stay with Chryslers Autos--
|02-07-2011 10:04 AM|
I'm sure times have changed since, but years ago, my uncle had worked for a company, and they had 10 (2nd generation) Dodge Intrepids as company vehicles. Within 40,000 miles, 8 of them had new transmissions, and the other 2 had transmissions replaced by 50,000 miles.
One of my wife's friends have a 1st generation Dodge Durango, and within having 36,000 miles on it, she already had a transmission replaced, and then another one before the vehicle hit 55,000 miles. For some reason, she still owns this vehicle, and the last time we saw her, she mentioned she now had around 85,000 miles on it (a few months ago?), and that transmission was starting to slip. Driver error?
I've also heard that Chrysler do NOT like to honor their warranties, and will kick and fight over even the simplest of things, and common practice with them is to "blame the customer." I'm hoping some of you can shed some light on this one.
Horror stories. Because of these issues, I've tried my best to steer very clear of Chrysler vehicles, or at least the ones with automatic transmissions. I haven't heard anything good or bad, either way, about the manuals, so that just tells me they aren't a problem.
Admittedly, I really have my reservations about trading in my STi, which has proved to be dead-on reliable, for a Chrysler product. I'm nervous. However, in the grand scheme of things, I'm trying my best to keep the faith that when I do get a Jeep, and if I have problems, Chrysler's not going to put me out in the cold.
All things aside, I'm hopeful in my decision for a Jeep to be my next vehicle, as I still do see a lot of old ones on the road, and in all honesty, I have NEVER seen one stranded on the side of the road, resulting from a breakdown. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
|02-07-2011 09:30 AM|
|MOPWR2U||No need to be nervous Dan. The Jeep Wrangler is as reliable as anything else would be that is used the same way. I've owned a few dozen of them.|
|02-07-2011 05:14 AM|
As for Consumer Reports, I wouldn't take their words for ANYTHING. They've reported that Audis and VWs have tons of problems, yet I owned a 2002 GTI which never hiccuped once, and we now own a 2009 Audi A3, and it's the same story.
Consumer Reports has consistently suggested that the Subaru WRX will have below-average reliability ratings. I own a 2005 STi with nearly 102,000 miles on it, and it has cost me $300 in repairs, not including basic maintenance.
Jeeps and sports cars notoriously receive poor marks for reliability, but I absolutely disagree that most of these issues are quality issues. People beat the living Hell out of these vehicles. Abuse leads to problems. Pay to play.
When people are having problems, they're going to be upset, and talk about it. If their vehicles are falling apart, they're not going to deny it when asked about it for the sake of "taking one for the team." Maybe things are different here, but if I were having problems, I'd make sure to let everyone know as a warning to everyone to "be prepared."
Do I own a Jeep? No, I do not. Have I ever owned a Jeep? No, I have not. Do I plan on owning a Jeep? Hopefully, sooner than later. Am I nervous about owning a Jeep? Of course, I've never owned a Jeep. I'm always nervous whenever I jump to a brand in which I haven't had experience.
IMO, if Jeeps were so bad, they wouldn't carry such high resale values.
|02-06-2011 05:42 PM|
|02-06-2011 09:49 AM|
They are changing the engine over to the 3.6l Pentastar engine starting MY2012. This is reported to inprove power and fuel economy (I'm optimistic that those things will both happen but we'll see). It will also run on e85 (Out of gas? Find a corn field).
Supposibly, they are going to add a gear to the auto tranny. Not solid on what (if anything) they are going to do with the manual.
Black will return as an available color.
|02-06-2011 08:19 AM|
The price wii go up. What a dumb ass question!
|02-05-2011 10:44 AM|
Go to a dealership and start looking in person!
Then go out for a test drive and you will know first hand if Jeeps are in your blood
Geez my 1985 CJ7 is so reliable that I was sold after my first test drive in a new JK. My 11 JK arrived last week and I am loving it!!! Plenty of power for me with the 6 speed with 3.73s
|02-05-2011 10:29 AM|
|wranglerYJ||sorry to say this but... that guy is a douche ^|
|02-05-2011 10:12 AM|
|nucofed||Does anyone if significant changes are coming to the wrangler 2 door in future years and what are they?|
|02-02-2011 09:01 PM|
From time to time i see a Suzuki so, yes, the most unreliable around.
|02-02-2011 08:22 AM|
As toast to YEARS of Jeep reliability, how many Jeeps do you see stuck on the side of the road on a daily basis? How decade old Jeeps do you see making the daily commute back and forth to work and still have to capability to hit the trails and out perform the newest (_________ insert subpar performing 4WD here)? Jeep is the model for customer appreciation, durability, reliability, and darn good looks.
Plus I can drive up to a woman and say hey baby, wanna go topless? And instead of punching me in the face, she will jump right in. Chicks love Jeeps!
|02-01-2011 09:39 PM|
Here is the JD survey he was refering to but too LAZY to post the link to: JDPower.com | Wrangler
Powertrain is pretty much the only 'durable' point of the survey. The average score from the Initial Quality segment is 2.7777(i) which is .27 higher than that Predicted Reliability score of 2.5.
I had 1 bad experience with each of my 2 TJs:
The '02 had somehow burned out its exaust valves at 43k. The dealer then made it worse by installing the new ones backwards. Eventually fixed.
Then the '04 at 62k had the firing point of the spark plug in piston #1 break off and fall down into the cylinder where it just merily banged around while the engine misfired.
No biggie BUT the jeep was returned to me at the dealer with a broken drivers side mirror (not the glass but the part that pivots on the base that attaches to the door) that would no longer stay put / blew back into the door in freeway-like winds. They refused to own up to it but no matter..that Jeep was tragically KILLED a few weeks later.
In other words, the vehicle problems were minimum but the dealer service departments were kinda lame.
|02-01-2011 03:29 PM|
|saltwaterwop||Lol @ mth|
|02-01-2011 01:57 PM|
|02-01-2011 12:40 PM|
|02-01-2011 12:13 PM|
MTH, I just read your post quickly and missed the word "imaginary."
I was thinking - what the hell were they doing taking an Accord off road. Funny stuff.
|02-01-2011 12:01 PM|
"Our Accord did very poorly on even the most modest of CR's muddy forest trails. We were immediately hung up on the first log we drove over, which caused extensive damage to the lower portion of our grille, and even the body. Honda would also be well-advised to rethink the complete absence of any kind of stock skid plate on the undercarriage--a pretty glaring deficiency given the Accord's lofty base cost.
We did notice that the cabin remained quiet during our efforts to rev out of the mud, and the intuitive controls for the sound system were a definite postive while we waited for one of CR's Wrangler fleet to come and winch us out. Ultimately, however, these benefits were overshadowed by our inability to extricate or otherwise help ourselves.
Overall, we were disappointed. Honda really should produce more capabilities for a vehicle in this price range. If you are looking for something with a smooth ride and good road manners, this is for you. But if you have even a passing interest in riding trails, you would be well served to look for something more substantial. This undoubtedly all contributes to the consistently low initial quality scores that the Accord continues to achieve each year."
|02-01-2011 11:32 AM|
|rics1997||Just imagine what Honda's and Toyota's rating would be if 25% of the questions were about how they handle off road or in snow greater then 12". The report is really only valid when comparing apples to apples. You can't use teh same question of a Honda and a Jeep and not have one or the another look bad because it is based on what questions you ask. A Honda would get very poor scores if the questions were based on off road based performance.|
|02-01-2011 11:26 AM|
shill alert! it's funny he said he'd buy a 2012, obviously he wants the pentastar, so does that mean quality to him is an untested engine that gets better MPG and HP? He'd love a kia, seriously high quality then! haha
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