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Topic Review (Newest First)
02-06-2011 08:45 PM
Shadow's_Jeep Jeep now plans to revive one of its most hallowed nameplates, the Grand Wagoneer, for a new upscale SUV with seven-seat capacity. That was the promise made by Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne who announced at a press conference at the 2011 Detroit Auto Show this week that a new Grand Wagoneer will arrive by January of 2013.

It will share a platform with the recently launched Grand Cherokee and the Dodge Durango. Interestingly, 2013 will also see the launch of a Maserati SUV based on the same platform.
02-04-2011 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister View Post
like the Fiat Panda?
Yes. Jeep might have a version for 2013.
02-04-2011 04:05 PM
silvrevo Hahaha,,, seen that in the middle........I was just in the front section.

Concept looks pretty cool. Kinda like the 80's Suzuki Samuri.

I also liked that Jeep adda trunk......tailgate extension!

My subscripton is good till Sept I guess ill be around. : )
02-04-2011 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Pat@FieldsJeep View Post
supposedly the current manual will still be in the 2012 with the Pentastar.
Without breaching that the word around the Chrysler dealer network campfire?
02-04-2011 01:40 PM
Mr. Sinister like the Fiat Panda?
02-04-2011 01:02 PM
daggo66 Silrevo old buddy, it's JP Magazince. How did you post about that issue and not mention the Panda?
02-04-2011 12:29 PM All I can add is about the transmission is none of the other vehicles with the Pentastar are mated to a 4 speed auto. they all 5 speed or higher. supposedly the current manual will still be in the 2012 with the Pentastar.
02-04-2011 12:21 PM
silvrevo I also think a new transmision would work well with the 3.8. Like holding gears longer.

And that 30% is way high,,, maybe the 3.8 is overrated at 202hp?

Im planning on being a guienny pig with the 3.6 Pentastar and what every tranny they mate upto it.

Im kinda out of the high speed / tuning of cars now. Grew up a little. Plus a ticket here and there adds up.

Or I might be looking into the SRT-8 2012 GC,,, which will be out about the same time the Pentastar gets dropped in the Wrangler.

Im thinking a snowball white/white hardtop,,,,,silver/silver,,,,,Green/Green ,, only if it is a Candy Metalic!
02-04-2011 12:12 PM
Mr. Sinister I'm curious how much an improvement just the new engine will be if they retain the same transmission. Noticeable, I'm sure, but looking at the rear-wheel dyno numbers for the JK, the drivetrain soaks up a ton of power. I've seen an average of 130-140 at the tires, that a loss of 70hp, or just over 30%. Chrylser's own engine dyno numbers were actually 205 crank horsepower from the chart I saw. 30% is ridiculous.
02-04-2011 11:55 AM
silvrevo No blurb on that Sin...............

And No mention on the Wrangler transmision.
02-04-2011 11:46 AM
Mr. Sinister Still no word on the U.S. diesel Wrangler?
02-04-2011 11:27 AM
JK Magazine ,, April 2011

Few little tidbits.

Wrangler sales were up in Oct. 2010 compared to Oct. 2009

by 111% !!!

All 13 Chrysler vehicles will get the GC Pentastar by 2013.

The Wrangler is up to bat next in 2012 model year!!!!!!!

Also plans for a Maserati SUV based on the GC is moving

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