|08-04-2007 11:40 AM|
|08-04-2007 06:02 AM|
|exmxr73||I am recently retired from motorcycles (dirt & street) and just bought a 97 Wrangler Sport 4.0 5spd with 76k miles for $9k. (see http://www.wranglerforum.com/new-mem...jeep-9962.html) It was supposed to be a "toy" to drive on Fridays to work and on weekends. Since I've gotten it my 2006 Honda Element EX-P just sits in the driveway. (Anyone want to buy it?) The Jeep makes the Element feel like a Lexus/Race Car, but I am amazed how much I am liking the Jeep. I had always wanted one, but I had not even driven one until I started looking seriously the first of July. Jeep rides rough, is noisy, get 17 mpg instead of 24, is a standard (oyyyyy...in Houston traffic...what was I thinking) but I am loving it so far. The Element is for sale.|
|07-23-2007 04:31 PM|
As for road noise.. you found the right rig
|07-23-2007 08:37 AM|
|tazmann910||I have the Goodyear MTR tire 33X12.50X15's and love them. Rocks are not an issue, but down here in the south I have a little fun in the mud. Just make sure you rotate them about every 5-6K miles.|
|07-22-2007 12:14 PM|
BFG's MT is a MUCH better built tire than ProComp's MT (made by Cooper for ProComp) is. Plus the BFG will get a lot better mileage, 50K miles isn't unusual wear. I actually got well over 50K miles on them when I was running that tire.
But... if you plan on wheeling in any rocks as are so common here in SOCAL as I do, I would strongly recommend you at least consider the Goodyear MT/R which is a better tire. It doesn't wear quite as well as the BFG MT does but it is much better offroad and it has a much stronger/cut-resistant sidewall. For rocks, the MT/R has pretty much replaced the BFG MT by rockcrawling enthusiasts for that cut-resistant trait. The ProComp MT doesn't even deserve honorable mention in my personal opinion.
|07-22-2007 12:05 PM|
added to favorites.. thanks man.. 32's
will be fine with me..
I just need to figure out which lift I want, leaning towards the BB due to $$$..
I like the way bfg mud looks.. anyone had experiences with it.. pro comp looks good also but pricer..
I look for road noise, and traction on wet.
|07-22-2007 11:53 AM|
You can install 31" tires without any kind of a lift, or you could go to 32" tires with a 2" budget boost suspension lift.
Going to larger tires does throw the speedometer off but you can easily recalibrate it in 5 minutes with new $13 speedometer gear that just snaps in place. Nothing more exotic than a 1/2" wrench is needed. Here's how... http://www.jeepin.com/features/speedogear/index.asp
Your automatic will make running a bigger tire easier than it is for those of us with manual transmissions. Its torque converter helps get around such problems until you get to a significantly larger tire like 33" or bigger.
|07-22-2007 11:39 AM|
wouldnt bigger tire rotate slower causing the speedo to go off?
I have an auto I dont know how if it would effect gear selection?
|07-22-2007 04:23 AM|
|Triple88a||You wont have to regear but its recomended. There are people saying with the right gears you can even get better mpg running 35s vs stocks so keep that in mind.|
|07-21-2007 09:44 PM|
|ejmct||Good luck with it!|
|07-21-2007 09:30 PM|
Whoo HOOO!!! I just picked up the jeep.. 05 x 4.0 OTD for 17,250 39,995 miles.. with all the features.. except soft top.. want to drop the top but no soft top or garage or alarm, yet jeep sits outside..
whats great about it is my fiance loves it also.. she wants me to get mig tires and a lift.. 33'' but I say 31 and 2'' lift.. gas is a killer for me.. I think the gearing will be screwed up also with 33''?
I had lots of cars before some old some new, and some with a lot of hp,, but I really fell for this one.. cant wait to experience the free top and trails..
thanks for all the advice guys..
|07-20-2007 10:43 PM|
|rawhide||Wind noise can be defeated with earplugs and a loud stereo, that makes looong trips pleasurable.|
|07-20-2007 03:55 PM|
From a dealer. It was a trade-in.
I was going to pay chash, but since I exceeded my original $15k budget I decided to finance a little bit.
|07-20-2007 02:36 PM|
^^^ was this financed or cash.. from a dealership or private?
|07-20-2007 02:11 PM|
Just last month I bought an 05 Sport with 33k miles on for $17k.
That was with both tops and the soft top had never been used.
This is a second car for me and yes its rough, noisy and MPG sucks (though I get close to 20 with a good bit of highway driving).
I'm 40 with no kids and the drawbacks don't bother me.
I just hope over the long haul:
1) Its reasonably reliable and doesn't cost a fortune to fix
2) Its decent in the snow so I can get to work in the bad weather.
If both of those things pan out I'll be a happy guy.
|07-20-2007 01:57 PM|
Preach on brother man, preach on..I cannot even think of one reason not to have one.
|07-20-2007 01:15 PM|
In addition to the fun that you have in wrangler, just respect of other jeepers and the general public is enough to outweigh the cons. I love the jeep wave. I love how eeveryone looks at your wrangler and says... "i have always wanted one of those you are so lucky." I loved living in Daytona Beach and drivin on the beach and how all the girls wanted to ride in the wrangler with the top off.(the jeep top that is)
There are a million reasons TO own one and less than enough reasons to count on one hand NOT to own one.
|07-20-2007 12:42 PM|
|bpowa||I drove a 2005 sport hardtop yesterday. it was nice.. and not as harsh or as loud as my current truck.. the only bad thing on the jeep is that if you go over a bump at about 40 mph the back will skipp a bit.. due to the short wheelbase and tall profile, but I expected that.. it felt no way near as stiff as my friends 92 jeep. I was suprised by how quiet it is.. I am actuall y planning on going to the dealiship today on the one I plan on looking saturday.. I feel I can get it at a better price if it were less busy. I plan on spending 16k otd on a 2005 x with all jeep extras. Is this a good price. the asking is 15,999.. lower then other compairable asking price..|
|07-19-2007 04:37 PM|
Noise, crappy gas milage, floppy tops, loud tires, loud stereo system, stiff suspensions, and constant maintenance is what being a jeep owner is all about.
Go with your gut and if you really want it, none of the items above will matter. My jeep is my daily driver and it is sitting on 33" tires and has a very stiff suspension system.
But the day you bring it out on the trails and do a rock climb or a hill climb that you did not think you could do...there will be a grin from ear to ear that you will not soon forget.
Oh, by the way my 8 year old son and 6 year old daughter love the jeep and love to go on trail rides with me. They call it "Daddy Time".
|07-19-2007 04:12 PM|
|07-19-2007 01:30 AM|
I was thinking the same thing^^^^plan on having a kid next year.. I was thinking of having a baby in the back of a jeep is just wrong.. heheh
this might get me to hang up my pucks, and keep me from crashing my bike.
we will see how it goes.. this weekend..
|07-18-2007 11:15 PM|
I have a chopper with strait pipes (motorcycle), and I had a Mustang Cobra convertible before my jeep, so the noise is no issue at all, nor is the ride, the Cobra had a racing suspension in it, that hurt. The gas mileage is good (compared to Cobra) and just the fun of it all out weighs everything anyway. I have a 15mon old and she loves it. Who cares if I don't have room for groceries?
So it's not a Jeep, it's still pretty...
|07-18-2007 07:24 PM|
|Triple88a||I also got a hard top and my muffler is a 50 delta with 2.5" tailpipe.. pretty loud.. with the pasenger window or door open you cant hear anything goin on inside the rig..with everything closed.. so quiet you can easily talk on speaker phone.|
|07-18-2007 06:51 PM|
|Buster||Since you own a bike, you already have an idea about the logic of a Jeep. There is none...lol...but, the fun factor overides the noise, mpg, ride quality, and all that stuff.|
|07-18-2007 06:27 PM|
|2much||I have a hardtop and full doors, like someone else stated, with a hardtop and full doors, noise isn't bad. The firewall doesn't have alot of insulation, and engine noise can be prevelant. As far as ride quality, most of your roughness, bumpiness, comes from suspension upgrades, a stock shouldn't be too bad. If this is gonna be your only vehicle, you will probally get used to it real quick.|
|07-18-2007 04:52 PM|
|debruins||and i've seen a tj with 330,000 miles on it for sale on craigslist "high miles but runs like new" of course it only cost 2K compared to all the other at 8K, but hey it shows that the drivetrain will last forever!|
|07-18-2007 03:40 PM|
|mrbigjeep||hard top is very quiet. soft top is SUPER LOUD going about 70.|
|07-18-2007 01:10 PM|
|bpowa||thanks guys it is very encouraging.. especially the last 2 post..|
|07-18-2007 11:32 AM|
|xuseme||Had a B2000 and a Scrambler hardtop. The ride really is about the same. Had my hardtop off about as much as on though. The noise really isn't too bad and it is more of a feeling the engine thing than a hearing it thing but I feel more comfortable with that. My Wrangler is an 04, standard trans. and it is noisier than the automatic. Go for it, you won't be sorry.|
|07-18-2007 11:07 AM|
|nregas1||I was in your boat about 8 months ago. Always wanted one, and despite the lack of logic I did it - and damn glad I did. Love it! But knew I would. Agree w/everything said so far. It's no Tahoe or Explorer, and you'll still get some wind/engine noise even w/HT on. BUT, it's a Wrangler, nuff said. Regarding the MPG, I have a MT and AT and can't tell one bit of diff in the lousy mileage I get. Can beat 16mpg avg to save my life. But, then again, it's a wrangler, nuff said.|
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