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03-14-2011 02:50 PM
rubi06 you dont need a t-case drop for the rubi being that the average jeep has a np 231 trans case wich has a longer shaft out the rear where as the rubi has a np241 that has a shorter fixed output shaft so you dont need a t-case drop for lifts up to 3"
03-14-2011 10:47 AM
wachuko Sorry for the stupid question... just learning. No need to drop the transfer case if it is a Rubicon because??? What is different from the Rubicon to the normal Wrangler that this step is not required? Again, just trying to learn the why's. Thanks!!
03-13-2011 08:41 PM
rubi06
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Originally Posted by wachuko

Very cool!! How does it compare to stock? Did you do the install? Besides not needing to install the drop for the transfer case (also a Rubicon), any gotchas?
Thanks. It rides a lot better than stock in my opinion. I did do the lift with the help of a friend get some pb blaster and soak all the bolts a day or so before you do it. the rear track bar bracket takes a little while other than that it's pretty straight forward. Took us about 10 hrs to do. Good luck
03-13-2011 04:31 PM
wachuko
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Originally Posted by rubi06 View Post
Mine is an 06 rubicon I just installed the RCD 3" kit with 32" tries. Very complete kit did not need to install the transfer case drop because it's a rubi
Very cool!! How does it compare to stock? Did you do the install? Besides not needing to install the drop for the transfer case (also a Rubicon), any gotchas?
03-13-2011 04:28 PM
wachuko Thank you! He decided to stay with the 3" lift. Waiting on it.


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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
32s will fit great with 1" bumpstop extensions front and 1.25-1.5" rear and no body lift.

I don't know what bumpstop length comes with the RCD kit, but I do know what the OME kit comes with.

The OME kit comes with 20mm bumpstops for the rear, which isn't enough. You need at least 1.25". You can make that difference up with fender washers if you like or buy a 2" bumpstop extension and cut it down by hand. Otherwise the shocks bottom out and the rear track bar relocation bracket will hit the underside of the tub floor. Notice I said nothing about tire size.

Again, tire size is independent of lift height.


stay away from the poly bushings. the poly bushings are my major complaint with the RCD 4" kit, otherwise its pretty complete (the Daystar jounce bumpers are useless so you'd need to get new front bumpstop extensions, needs longer front brake lines, and don't install the drop pitman arm)..., you could always buy the kit and put Rokmen, Clayton or Currie arms on it...then sell the RCD arms...kinda of a waste of time tho, IMHO.
03-13-2011 12:43 PM
JYJeep My brother in outlaw runs the OME and recommends completely. Therefore, I did the opposite and bought a 3" Teraflex kit (Plus) added Bilstien 5100s, adjustable track bar, steering stabilizer, and 6 of 8 CAs. Check 4x4groupbuy.com and call for price on the kit. Still, would have used the OME if I hadn't gone further with the build.
03-13-2011 10:49 AM
rubi06 Mine is an 06 rubicon I just installed the RCD 3" kit with 32" tries. Very complete kit did not need to install the transfer case drop because it's a rubi
03-09-2011 08:24 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by Mike5087 View Post
What if ya wanted to run 32s?! Should have a pretty complete kit huh?!? Don't know much about them and getting ready to purchase the OME lift.
32s will fit great with 1" bumpstop extensions front and 1.25-1.5" rear and no body lift.

I don't know what bumpstop length comes with the RCD kit, but I do know what the OME kit comes with.

The OME kit comes with 20mm bumpstops for the rear, which isn't enough. You need at least 1.25". You can make that difference up with fender washers if you like or buy a 2" bumpstop extension and cut it down by hand. Otherwise the shocks bottom out and the rear track bar relocation bracket will hit the underside of the tub floor. Notice I said nothing about tire size.

Again, tire size is independent of lift height.

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Originally Posted by wachuko View Post
But was just asking since it came up during a conversation with the owner of this Jeep. He checks this thread, so if he wants to ultimately go with 35's the time is now to cancel the RCD order and order a 4" lift kit... but there are additional parts needed that we would have to figure out.
stay away from the poly bushings. the poly bushings are my major complaint with the RCD 4" kit, otherwise its pretty complete (the Daystar jounce bumpers are useless so you'd need to get new front bumpstop extensions, needs longer front brake lines, and don't install the drop pitman arm)..., you could always buy the kit and put Rokmen, Clayton or Currie arms on it...then sell the RCD arms...kinda of a waste of time tho, IMHO.
03-09-2011 08:15 AM
Jwyatt Well I cheated with a three inch body lift.
03-09-2011 07:33 AM
wachuko
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Originally Posted by Jeepoffroad04 View Post
Yjs have the leaf springs they dont sag down as much as coils so 2.5 wouldent clear 35s aswell a yj would. plus I would recommend a 4" lift if you want to run 33s. This a pic of my jeep with a 2.5" lift and 33s

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I am guessing you meant 35s"

That was my thinking as well... If running 35's, go with, at minimum, a 4" lift.

But was just asking since it came up during a conversation with the owner of this Jeep. He checks this thread, so if he wants to ultimately go with 35's the time is now to cancel the RCD order and order a 4" lift kit... but there are additional parts needed that we would have to figure out.

RCD kit for 4" lift - 899.99

03-09-2011 07:01 AM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by Jwyatt
I've got 2.5 inch lift. + bodylift 35s. Km2s.
Yjs have the leaf springs they dont sag down as much as coils so 2.5 wouldent clear 35s aswell a yj would. plus I would recommend a 4" lift if you want to run 33s. This a pic of my jeep with a 2.5" lift and 33s

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03-09-2011 05:47 AM
Mike5087
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04
their TJ is pretty new...so thats why there isn't a lot of reviews. Like I said, I run OME and am very happy with it...but since you're new, I voted you go with RCD because it has a more complete lift kit...with bumpstops and such. OME doesn't include enough bumpstop for your application, and you'd need to do further research to determine what you need.

What if ya wanted to run 32s?! Should have a pretty complete kit huh?!? Don't know much about them and getting ready to purchase the OME lift.

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03-09-2011 05:24 AM
k1lr0y
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Originally Posted by wachuko View Post
i really like the rcd suspension 3" lift kit with bilstein shocks if only because of the bilstein shocks... But being new to jeeps i have no frame of reference. And it has been difficult to find any reviews on it for jeeps.~
+1
03-08-2011 07:47 PM
Merle Swaggard
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Originally Posted by wachuko View Post
That sounds like a significant amount of money to be able to run the 35's... ouch

Thank you for the info
Run 33's see how you like them they wheel well and you can save up to re gear and get sye or what not then sell your 33's and get 35's
03-08-2011 07:40 PM
Jwyatt I've got 2.5 inch lift. + bodylift 35s. Km2s.
03-08-2011 07:33 PM
wachuko
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Originally Posted by 05wrangler View Post
i would think that you might need one or two more inches to get 35s to clear in turns. so maybe 5 inches all together, also if you have a dana 44 (witch yours should) then thats ok, a dana 35 will need to be regeard. and a SYE kit and cv driveshaft should be installed. upgrade your braking and stearing sytem also
That sounds like a significant amount of money to be able to run the 35's... ouch

Thank you for the info
03-08-2011 04:07 PM
05wrangler i would think that you might need one or two more inches to get 35s to clear in turns. so maybe 5 inches all together, also if you have a dana 44 (witch yours should) then thats ok, a dana 35 will need to be regeard. and a SYE kit and cv driveshaft should be installed. upgrade your braking and stearing sytem also
03-08-2011 03:58 PM
wachuko He ordered the RCD Suspension 3" Lift Kit with Bilstein Shocks - US$ 699.99. Is backordered so it will take some time to get here...

While we wait, just a quick question that came up. With that suspension setup, what would it take to run 35" tires instead of the 33"?? Justa 1" body lift would do??

And if he goes with 35" tires, what additional changes would be needed to the drivetrain??

and... baby steps, fuel door installed.

03-02-2011 01:02 PM
wachuko Thank you all for your comments and recommendations... now up to FLpaindoc to decide on what to order.
03-02-2011 11:01 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by wachuko View Post
I really like the RCD Suspension 3" Lift Kit with Bilstein Shocks if only because of the Bilstein shocks... but being new to Jeeps I have no frame of reference. And it has been difficult to find any reviews on it for Jeeps. Very good feedback on their kits for the pickup trucks.
their TJ is pretty new...so thats why there isn't a lot of reviews. Like I said, I run OME and am very happy with it...but since you're new, I voted you go with RCD because it has a more complete lift kit...with bumpstops and such. OME doesn't include enough bumpstop for your application, and you'd need to do further research to determine what you need.
03-02-2011 08:20 AM
AOR Other - Zone Offroad 3" coil kit with Nitro shocks, steering stabilizer, JKS 1" motor lift, shipped for $560.76. Add in Rock Krawler rear adjustable UCAs for $224.57 shipped. Or Currie Enterprise CE-9103 rear UCAs for $258.36 shipped.

The CE-9103s are on the shelf. The rock Krawler's will be 5~7 business days to build. They are slammed keeping up with the Rubicon Express overflow.

Namaste,

Allen
03-02-2011 07:25 AM
wachuko I really like the RCD Suspension 3" Lift Kit with Bilstein Shocks if only because of the Bilstein shocks... but being new to Jeeps I have no frame of reference. And it has been difficult to find any reviews on it for Jeeps. Very good feedback on their kits for the pickup trucks.
03-01-2011 09:01 PM
Tomb Raider I feel you...we seem be a breed among our own...I have T R also and want to fit in, and feel your pain! (nobody likes us), but want to trail like all others! I can tell you, that with mine, it trails like all others can! It is a rubi, and with that, it can hang with the best of them! It does what many others can't, out of the box...and others can put us to the test! BRING IT ON! Anyway...just wanted to let you know you are not alone brother!
03-01-2011 04:30 PM
FLpaindoc Thanks for posting this Jaime. It is good to have a friend like you, Angel, with all his add-ons, and I, with all my questions, really appreciate your help. Guys, I am the owner of the Tomb Raider edition. By my research in the forums I learned thet you guys either love them or hate them (bunch of haters!!!). I just wanted a jeep and found this one locally for a decent price. I Like uncomon cars and this seems to fit the bill. I can only find one for sale on Autotrader.com, and for a lot more than what I paid (and twice the miles). I would like to tastefully modify it, I don't want to copy the real one (at least for now ).
First thing will be the lift and Jaime (AKA: WACHUCO) Kindly offered his help. Then bigger tires, I still don't know if I am going to keep the original wheels on the new tires (open to suggestions). Also a winch is on the list, For know with the stock bumper. What else would you do?
03-01-2011 04:15 PM
wachuko Listing the prices for each of the options:

1. Old Man Emu 2.5" Suspension System - US$ 776.99
2. Skyjacker 2.5" Standard Lift Kit with Shocks - US$ 846.99
3. RCD Suspension 3" Lift Kit with Bilstein Shocks - US$ 699.99
4. Black Diamond 3" Suspension Lift Kit - US$ 683.99
03-01-2011 03:23 PM
KawiMonsterSahara Rubicon Express 2" BB, 1" MML, JKS 1.25" BL
03-01-2011 02:55 PM
kbaum03
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Originally Posted by uf20wop View Post
can you post a pic of your jeep?
I will try to this weekend working long hours right now.
03-01-2011 02:21 PM
wachuko
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
I run an OME kit. You can't go wrong with it. I really like it.

But I voted for the RCD kit because it is more complete.

Either kit you go with you'll need bumpstop extensions to run 33s.

Without a BL, you'll need 2" front bumpstop extension and 2-2.5" in the rear.
With a BL, you can remove 1" off those values...so 1" front bumpstop extension and 1.5" in the rear.
I think the kits brings the bumpstops. But I will make a note to check when ordering. Thank you!!
03-01-2011 01:57 PM
uf20wop
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Originally Posted by kbaum03 View Post
I love my OME lift the max tire that they recommend is 32" without other mods.
can you post a pic of your jeep?
03-01-2011 01:42 PM
Jp90Talon I had an OME 2.5" suspension with jks 1.25" BL and M.O.R.E 1" MML and was very happy with the setup and 33" tires.
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