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03-02-2011 10:54 PM
shadetreezj I figured it out.

The 10 pin is the right side connector of the instrument cluster.

The white/blue inserts into cavity 3. If you get the cavity 3 and 4 wires backwards, the defrost switch light does not work.

Also, make sure that your rear wiper fuse is installed. Ask me how I know
03-01-2011 11:30 PM
shadetreezj
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Originally Posted by Rethaew View Post

One thing I have not done is wired those last two darkblue/lightgreen and lightblue/white wires into the passenger side 10-way I/P cluster. My RH cluster already has wires in the pins it says to put them in, and they are different colors. Did you run in to that? Do these have to be connected for the defrost to work?
I'm at this same exact stage.

Where do the darkblue/lightgreen and lightblue/white wires land?

Also, where exactly does the 10 pin connector live? I see a green 10 pin just under the fuse block??

Thanks in advance.
12-25-2010 11:20 PM
robbiecc
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Originally Posted by tjay View Post
Thanks for all of your help, but I went ahead and bought a pdf version of the daimler-chrysler factory repair manual.. its 1407 pages! and it was only 12 bucks on tradebit.com =) I needed one anyways, I probably should have bought it six years ago when I bought the jeep. When I figure out the problem, Ill post how I fixed it, just in case anyone is interested.

$3 on ebay
12-25-2010 08:21 PM
Rethaew Tjay, thanks for doing much of the brain damage on this kit. I am trying to install on my 2000TJ and still can not get the defrost to work. I followed your instructions on the C170 terminal (actually I soldered the blue/white wire to the other side). Still no luck with the defrost. Any ideas?

One thing I have not done is wired those last two darkblue/lightgreen and lightblue/white wires into the passenger side 10-way I/P cluster. My RH cluster already has wires in the pins it says to put them in, and they are different colors. Did you run in to that? Do these have to be connected for the defrost to work?
11-07-2010 05:34 PM
tjay Ok, I finally fixed the problem. For anyone interested in using instruction manual k6858210 to install the Mopar factory replacement hardtop wiring harness for 1997-2000 model years on a 2000 Jeep TJ, you have to follow steps 34a-36a (even though the instructions say follow those steps on a 1998 TJ only) except instead of a 6 way connector like it shows in the picture, it is actually a light gray 10-way connector (C170 if youre looking at a manual). One side of this connector has an existing blue/white wire, and the other side (male side) does not. So all you have to do is insert the male end of the blue white wire from the wiring harness into empty spot #2 on connector C170. I wish I would have bought the chrysler manual from tradebit.com earlier, It would have saved me a major headache.
11-07-2010 02:42 PM
tjay Thanks for all of your help, but I went ahead and bought a pdf version of the daimler-chrysler factory repair manual.. its 1407 pages! and it was only 12 bucks on tradebit.com =) I needed one anyways, I probably should have bought it six years ago when I bought the jeep. When I figure out the problem, Ill post how I fixed it, just in case anyone is interested.
11-07-2010 12:23 PM
Bruck I just finished mine yesterday. What a pain in the ass. The instructions suck. I did it on my 03 Rubi. While I don't believe that I can help you, what I would say is that I did not have any wires left over. I tend to think that you are right on with needing to connect that wire somewhere. Wish I could be more help.
11-07-2010 11:37 AM
GoldTJ Sorry it took so long to get back to you,been working on my Jeep all weekend so far,just got caught up.The info you want is in PDF file format,and I can't figure out how to post it up on here.If you can PM me your e-mail,I will gladly e-mail the PDF file to you!
11-05-2010 01:13 AM
tjay Sounds great, youre a class A jeeper
11-04-2010 08:26 PM
GoldTJ I finally found my wiring schematic.It worked for me,but has been almost a year since I did this,so I can't remember EXACTLY what I did,but it worked for me.I'm having problems with my scanner,but will scan it at work and try and get it on here for you to view A.S.A.P.!I noticed that mine has a different p/n,at least.Maybe you can compare notes and read between the lines enough to decipher and make sense of it.I do recall having some issues here and there with the pins properly seating,and in one harness under the dash I actually ditched that and soldered the wire to an existing wire because of the PITA connector.
11-04-2010 06:13 PM
tjay I still cant figure out this wiring problem. Has anyone successfully installed the Mopar wiring harness for a 2000 jeep tj using the instructions that I linked to up top?
11-03-2010 07:36 AM
GoldTJ The white circular object on top in the photo is what I was referring to- it appears yours is there already.Mine was not.
11-02-2010 11:49 PM
tjay GoldTJ: thanks so much for the advice. I dont think I had floating around in my kit the piece that you mentioned. I dont see any holes in the back of my switch, so I just took a picture of the topside of my switch, where it looks like if a led was going to plug in anywhere, it would be there. If you could, let me know what you think

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11-02-2010 10:24 PM
GoldTJ If I am understanding your post correctly,I had the exact same issue last year when I installed mine.The defrost works,but the switch light doesn't illuminate?In my case,there was a tiny white speck about the size of the point of a fine-tipped Sharpie in the box,with no explanation as to what it was.On a hunch,I tore it back down and dove into it on suspicion alone.The little white dot was actually the light that goes into the back of the rear defrost switch,which was conveniently not mentioned in the installation instructions.I hope this helps!
11-02-2010 09:43 PM
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11-02-2010 06:46 PM
tjay
help with tj hard top defrost wiring

I recently purchased a '97 hard top to put on my '00 TJ. I ordered and installed the correct factory replacement wiring harness from Mopar, and followed the instructions it came with to a T. I even had an electrician buddy do all the splicing for me. After installation, the rear wiper and wash spray work fine, but the rear defrost will not work. For some reason, power is not getting to the defroster, as the little red indicator light on the defrost switch does not illuminate. I have researched this extensively, and have found that many people have had the same problem, but I cannot find a solution to it. I have checked to see if the actual defrost element works (it does), that the hbl relay and fuse are installed properly in the Power Distribution Center (they are), and that the hbl fuse behind the glove box (#17) is properly wired (it is). Unfortunately, I ran into several inconsistencies with the instructions that came with the harness from mopar. For instance, the diagram in the instructions next to step 20 for the PDC did not match the PDC in my jeep (I was able to find the corresponding locations though). Also, when connecting the darkblue/lightgreen and lightblue/white wires into the passenger side 10-way I/P cluster connector for step 43 , I had to replace the wire terminals to get them to fit into the connector, which is something the instructions say you only have to do on a 1997 jeep. My whole problem is that I am not getting power to the rear defrost, and I am concerned that steps 34 - 36 on page 6 of the instructions are responsible for this. In the instructions, on page 6, there are 3 different ways to connect the Blue/White wire: one way for '97 models, one way for '98 models, and a different way for '99 models. Since my jeep is a '00, I skipped steps 34 - 36, and now I have an unused blue/white wire hanging out of my harness. I have exhausted all resources for fixing this problem shy of spending hundreds at an auto shop. Any help would be greatly appreciated. To make it easier to visualize, I have scanned the instructions I have from mopar and uploaded them to my flickr page. Here is the link:

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