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03-25-2011 07:02 PM
thewasel I fall more into the category of burning used motor oil on "Earth Day" because it's all a big fat load of BS. If I bought into the enviro-hippy stuff I certainly wouldn't own a Jeep. As far as "big evil oil", oil companies profit by % aren't gross by any means and cost is controlled more by the government deciding how much drilling and refining is "allowed". If you want to send a message to the enemy, write letters to congress.
03-25-2011 06:04 PM
Monkey Wrench I once was listening to a radio interview with one of the oil refineries top dogs and the question of direct cause for increasing gas prices was asked while the price of crude per barrel was decreasing, the reply "we will charge whatever the market will bear".

I remember that statement every time I pull up to the pump.

The gas station is just the messenger, I'll play the game on the 31st but the only way we will ever get the refineries to pay attention is to consistantly cut our consumption. MHO
03-25-2011 04:48 PM
Hammerwalk
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Originally Posted by monkeee2002 View Post
Who's in?

"Simply avoid all gas stations on March 31, 2011. And if you can go one step further, don't even drive that day.
However, don't forget your local mom and pop shop. Go IN and buy something that day. Make a point of it!

We're mad as hell, and are tired of watching the big oil companies laugh all the way to the bank while we all suffer. Let's do this!"

One day out of 365 probably won't make a difference to their money, but I bet it will make them at least take a look.
I'm in NO way shape or form trying to troll, or make people think other wise, but I have learned something at my new job. I work for one of Texas' biggest Oil Tycoon and working for the oil industry, you learn a few things (of course, I am in IT for the Oil industry, i digress) but you would be amazed at how little profit the oil companies make.

In all reality, oil companies only make about %10 in revenue cause of all the over head involved with refining oil. They aren't always laughing to the bank (sometimes yeah). They don't want to pay $115+ a barrel anymore than you want to pay for $3.50+ a gallon.

Again, not trying to troll or anything, just something I learned that i have found that most people do not have a clue about, thought I would pass it on.
03-25-2011 04:32 PM
motokeen I do these whenever I can. We just need to make it a large scale deal.
03-25-2011 04:28 PM
PecosRiver
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Originally Posted by arrowhead View Post
It won't do a bit of good.

When the supply of oil becomes more than comsumption then the price of crude will drop, usually suddenly and drastically, and gas will become cheaper. We'll all be happy except for the people that work in the industry and are getting laid off. Then the demand for oil will again become more than is available and prices will climb, usually suddenly and drastically, and everyone will be hollering about the price of gas. The bright side is that the laid off oil industry workers will again find employment and get to start over. Again and again since the oil industry is just a never ending cycle of boom and bust.
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Gas prices start dropping a month before it we pass it on to the customers. It's our way of catching up financially for the lowered profits we take when it goes up in the first place. We just prolong the agony because we're hurting like the rest of society and it helps.

Now I'm going to give you an informed opinion. I see this type of price hike and the related publicity every 2 years it seems. "Gas will rise to $?.00/gallon by the summer", "Mid-east crisis to cause American gas prices to spike by summer", "Blah blah blah will cause price hikes and fuel shortages by summer" and I think it's all b.s. geared to boost what the price that we, the American public, will pay for fuel in the coming year. If you think about it, we expect the worst at these times, but the reality is a 50 cent increase to the price after all the fear-mongering is finished and we, as sheep, breath a sigh of relief and say "I can live with that!" (Where's my "I'm a moron" smilie?) For the next 2 years we have "fairly" stable pricing, with minor fluctuations and life is good again.

I don't know if it's 100% true, but I'm told we don't get oil from the mid-east anymore. I also doubt that Libya provided much, if any, oil to us. It stands to reason that there are markets much closer to them that will gladly buy their product, thereby reducing transport costs. Here in New Mexico we pump enough oil to satisfy our needs and export some to other states, yet we're paying through the a$$ for our fuel. (Yes, we even have our own refineries) To me it stands to reason that what happens in Libya and the mid-east should have zero effect on our pricing, but it does. I blame the rich bastards on wall street and the people that play with our pocketbooks in the futures market. They withdraw supply, prices go up. They loose the reigns, prices go down. Kill a few futures traders and see if they stop playing with our lives like it's a game of Monopoly.

Just my humble opinion.
03-25-2011 09:41 AM
commodore_dude
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Originally Posted by monkeee2002 View Post
Bunch of retarded crap
Really? People still pass these stupid things around?
03-25-2011 09:37 AM
shrubeck Come on guys. I'm sure this one will work way better than all the other "no gas days" a couple years ago...
03-25-2011 09:10 AM
arrowhead It won't do a bit of good.

When the supply of oil becomes more than comsumption then the price of crude will drop, usually suddenly and drastically, and gas will become cheaper. We'll all be happy except for the people that work in the industry and are getting laid off. Then the demand for oil will again become more than is available and prices will climb, usually suddenly and drastically, and everyone will be hollering about the price of gas. The bright side is that the laid off oil industry workers will again find employment and get to start over. Again and again since the oil industry is just a never ending cycle of boom and bust.
03-24-2011 01:31 PM
dmacioce I drove across the county line today and filled up several gas cans for about $0.10/gal cheaper than what I can get where I normally go, so I may be able to participate in this. I don't know if it will have an impact though, since I'll just buy gas again next time I need to. What am I gonna do? "Oh well, I'm out of gas.. Guess I'll stop driving my Jeep!" Don't think so.
03-24-2011 08:51 AM
99jeeper would like to join a cause but after being laydoff since november if my boss ,calls i'm drive'n and getting alittle petrol if i gotta!
03-24-2011 08:46 AM
PecosRiver
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Originally Posted by h2obill View Post
you do know that some gas stations are independently owned and you are simply taking money away from an individual and not big oil. Heck, the gas at a Shell station may not have even come from Shell.
Gas at Shell, means that the local refinery blends the gas going to Shell stations to Shell's specs. The same for all major brands. Shell sets the price that the dealers can charge and they pay for the fuel and charge the franchise what they want. Bulk buying for the area's Shell gets them preferential pricing and Shell adds some $$ to line their pockets. Franchise fees and controlling where the dealers get their candy also makes up additional $$ for Shell.

Boycott Shell and other major brands! Hurt the franchisee and their employees!
03-24-2011 08:38 AM
PecosRiver I posted this on the same topic on FaceCrack:

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LOL! Gas boycott, OH NO! I own a small independent station in the middle of nowhere and I can tell you that all the talk of a boycott means nothing to me or any other station.

Say you don't buy gas from me tomorrow. You'll still drive and need to replace the fuel you use tomorrow. So you don't buy tomorrow, you'll buy more the next time you fill up.

You want to hurt the big corporate boys that are screwing us over, good luck. You NEED what they sell. You can't live without what they sell. You will continue to buy what they sell. You can't hurt them because we are HOOKED on what they sell. Sounds like a drug to me.

You want to drive down prices? Try getting oil banned from the futures market. I can tell you what gas will do tomorrow by watching the futures market.

You want to hurt the local stations? Find out if there are any company owned stores in your neighborhood. Company owned means corporate owned, not a franchise. Bet you can't.

Let's see now. As an independent station I paid $3.3267/gallon regular lead-free wholesale. I sell it for $3.699. Now I know the area Shell company pays about 9 cents a gallon less than I do, but they sell it but he sells it for about what I pay for it. HE makes money from the store, selling you and your rugrats overpriced candy, snacks, and drinks. Try boycotting the big boy's stores for a month. No coffee, no donuts, no candy for the little naggers in the backseat. Buy your beer from a liquor store instead of the Conoco station. Get your smokes from Wal-Mart or some other grocery store. Do this for a month and you will not only hurt the franchises but it will catch the corporations attention too.

Me personally, I doubt anything will happen. I doubt you can gather the support. We're creatures of comfort and we seldom change.
After rereading the above, I still stand by what I wrote a month ago.
03-24-2011 07:46 AM
Mac2411 In any event, the price of oil is not driven by the so-called "Big Oil" companies. Most reserves around the world are controlled by sovereign nations (like Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Venezuela) that operate their own national oil companies. Further, most of the price ups and downs are driven by speculators on Wall Street and other exchanges around the world. Finally, the actuall profit margin that "Big Oil" earns on each barrel is actually very slim-a few dollars per barrel at most. The margin of proft that a station earns on each gallon of gas is even slimmer-a few cents at best. These types of campaigns are not only baseless, but don't accomplish anything. The fact remains that one will have to fill up eventually.
03-24-2011 06:54 AM
h2obill you do know that some gas stations are independently owned and you are simply taking money away from an individual and not big oil. Heck, the gas at a Shell station may not have even come from Shell.
03-24-2011 03:19 AM
jeepers29 If you really want to hurt the gas stations, buy only gas and nothing from the store. All the extra tems is where they make their money. Gas is almost a loss leader for them. I buy nothing else from gas stations, when I can get it elsewhere for much less.
03-24-2011 01:56 AM
billytheyj Yet I will still do it...
03-24-2011 01:54 AM
billytheyj True true yet I choose to do it just cuz if the nation collectively did this they would feel it, but the only problem us if you need to fill up that day and don't then you will the next day. We can't be bothered to try to boycott our gas companies we will consume the same amount of gas and just spend or money less than 24hrs later.
03-24-2011 01:46 AM
Mischievous Cat I'll bet that one day won't bother them one bit. They will just raise the price to make the difference if they notice it.

Gas prices may seem high, but globally speaking, gas in the US is still pretty cheap, and at least it's available whenever you want it. We haven't gone to back to rationing(yet)...Supply and demand, brother. How many people in India or China are saving to buy cars? I'm sure they'll buy the gas you choose not to.

Besides, what choice to people really have? Not too many people are refining biodiesel or ethanol at home to power their favorite hobbies, lifestyles and conveniences.

Unfortunately, the game we all chose to play involves fuel. The day we can't afford the buy-in is the day we no longer play the game.

Just my .02.
03-24-2011 01:42 AM
billytheyj Sounds good!
03-24-2011 01:15 AM
monkeee2002
No gas day!

Who's in?

"Simply avoid all gas stations on March 31, 2011. And if you can go one step further, don't even drive that day.
However, don't forget your local mom and pop shop. Go IN and buy something that day. Make a point of it!

We're mad as hell, and are tired of watching the big oil companies laugh all the way to the bank while we all suffer. Let's do this!"

One day out of 365 probably won't make a difference to their money, but I bet it will make them at least take a look.

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