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02-07-2012 09:50 PM
schirmyver I used the Novus products on my old YJ soft top windows and it worked fantastic to remove or lessen the scratches. As for washing I always used a cloth diaper and hot water. I never used any soaps or cleaners. My soft top lasted nearly 12 years and the windows still looked pretty good.
02-07-2012 09:49 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Hey, I polished it and it got better
I believe hazing is illegal in all states now, though. Rather just avoid the problem.
02-07-2012 09:46 PM
KarlG Hey, I polished it and it got better
02-07-2012 09:10 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
A word of caution concerning Plexus. If you look up the MDS for Plexus you will find it contains petroleum distillates. These can melt plastics especially soft ones like vinyl and acrylic. It mostly does well on painted plastics because they are protected from the solvent action.

On aircraft canopies which are very expensive and harder material (lexan) the only cleaner, (after copius clean water and mild soap) and polishes used were from Novus. Novus 1 for a cleaner and Novus 2 for fine scratches followed by Novus 1. There is a Novus 3, but that was best left to specialists using a rotary polisher and special care and technique, then down to 2 and ending with 1.

The Mequires product is similar to Novus 1.

We had one glider canopy "hazed" by Plexus that was applied in the sun. It also happened to a friend's Ducati 1098S clear windscreen when applied in the sun. Fortunately, in both cases, Novus 2 and back to 1 removed the hazing. Mixing petroleum distillates and clear soft plastic can be a bad experience.
Whoa! That's good to know.

I'm very familiar with MSDS, having worked commercial construction for many years. Good thing I've still got two things of Meguiar's on the shelf in my storage room.

Thanks for the heads-up, Karl.
02-07-2012 09:04 PM
KarlG A word of caution concerning Plexus. If you look up the MDS for Plexus you will find it contains petroleum distillates.http://www.chiefsupply.com/resources/msds/KA-Plexus-Plastic-Cleaner.pdf These can melt plastics especially soft ones like vinyl and acrylic. It mostly does well on painted plastics because they are protected from the solvent action.

On aircraft canopies which are very expensive and harder material (lexan) the only cleaner, (after copius clean water and mild soap) and polishes used are from Novus. Novus 1 for a cleaner and Novus 2 for fine scratches followed by Novus 1. There is a Novus 3, but that was best left to specialists using a rotary polisher and special care and technique, then down to 2 and ending with 1.

The Mequires product is similar to Novus 1 and I'm sure the Bestop product is also.

We had one glider canopy "hazed" by Plexus that was applied in the sun. It also happened to a friend's Ducati 1098S clear windscreen when applied in the sun. Fortunately, in both cases, Novus 2 and back to 1 removed the hazing. Mixing petroleum distillates and clear soft plastic can be a bad experience.

I think I'll pick up one of Bestop's collection to use for my softop and windows and zippers. It seems like a convenient way to get three separate products I'd have to combine like 303, Novus and Zip Care.
02-07-2012 08:32 PM
Pinto Bean It is comments and tips like this that make this site a winner.... thanks
02-07-2012 07:44 AM
6rings Also the rag makes the scratches....a diaper is not made from wood particles !
02-07-2012 06:55 AM
LilYeller x2 on the PLEXUS. I detail multi-million dollar yachts for a living and I wouldnt use anything other than plexus. It cleans and protects, hands down best stuff for this application. I use it on my softtop wondows and it works great.
02-07-2012 06:21 AM
Pinto Bean When I bought my jeep the seller told me to be very careful what I used to clean the windows. I should only use products for cleaning plastic windows. Anything else could scratch the finish and over time will yellow making it almost impossible to see through requiring replacement. I look at Invisible Glass at Walmart and I could not find any reference to plastic on the “recommended for”. AutoZone had Plastx and the sales clerk said this product was actually made to remove scratches in fiberglass and if it did not state it was recommended for plastic he would not use it. I did find Meguiar's G12310 Plastic Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish -10 oz at O’Riellys for $8.00 each. When this product is gone I will be open to a cheaper way to clean the windows.
02-06-2012 09:02 AM
Riccochet I've always cleaned with soap and water followed by using a spray wax. Like a light detail or spot delivery wax. Vinyl windows on my old 87 Silverton look like they did when they were installed at the factory.
02-05-2012 10:45 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by kkeating View Post
I used to have a motorglider with a plexiglass canopy. The last thing you want on a canopy is scratches, since they can blind you to oncoming planes. Someone recommended Plexus to me, and I used it all the while I had the plane.

Of course you'd want to hose off your Jeep windows first, but after that Plexus will treat them well. It doesn't leave behind a thin layer of soap scum, but it does remove whatever the hose won't.

Plexus comes in a spray can. Use a microfiber or softer cloth with it.
I just got my first can of Plexus about a month ago...used it the other day after a day of mud/snow wheeling. Awesome stuff.

Gonna use it on my motorcycle windscreen once I fire it up in the Spring.
02-05-2012 10:16 PM
kkeating
Plexus

I used to have a motorglider with a plexiglass canopy. The last thing you want on a canopy is scratches, since they can blind you to oncoming planes. Someone recommended Plexus to me, and I used it all the while I had the plane.

Of course you'd want to hose off your Jeep windows first, but after that Plexus will treat them well. It doesn't leave behind a thin layer of soap scum, but it does remove whatever the hose won't.

Plexus comes in a spray can. Use a microfiber or softer cloth with it.
02-05-2012 03:15 PM
6rings Invisible Glass - Walmart special.....I have used it for a year still no scratches
02-05-2012 03:12 PM
Pinto Bean I just bought the cleaner and the polish, what a difference they make. Thanks for the info.
03-28-2011 09:49 PM
Robd225
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Originally Posted by ncossey

The post was for how to clean the windows. Using soap and water is recommended by all vinyl window manufacturers.
And that is why they don't last. My friend has been a mobile marine mechanic for 30 plus years and his 12 year old vinyl boat windows look new.
He explained to me that all soaps leave behind a residue like soap scum on a glass shower door. This residue gives dirt and dust an area to stick to and creates scratches. Plastic is porous and cleaners such as PLASTX fills in those pores and your scratches to give the like new look. It also protects the vinyl from uv damage. If you clean your windows with a soft cloth and only water it will loosen the dirt and wash it away. You then should use a product such as PLASTX to clean the vinyl and fill in the porous service. This will then create a service that the dirt won't stick to.
When it snows the road salt and slush beads up when it comes in contact with my windows and falls off. My jeep is only a year old but I'm scratch free even after spending a summer on the beach and a brutal north east winter .
03-28-2011 09:16 PM
ncossey
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Originally Posted by Robd225
Do don't want to use soap and water because it won't protect the plastic window and will leave a soap film. Go to a marine store or auto body store and buy PLASTX

Meguiar's G12310 PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish -10 oz.
by Meguiars

It will clean and polish the class and protect it from UV rays, road dirt and dust.
The post was for how to clean the windows. Using soap and water is recommended by all vinyl window manufacturers.
03-28-2011 08:53 PM
Robd225 Do don't want to use soap and water because it won't protect the plastic window and will leave a soap film. Go to a marine store or auto body store and buy PLASTX

Meguiar's G12310 PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish -10 oz.
by Meguiars

It will clean and polish the class and protect it from UV rays, road dirt and dust.
03-28-2011 08:46 PM
DallanG
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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop View Post
No, we don't sell anything. Gotta go thru one of our many fantastic retailers.
OK, I bought everything on Ebay.
03-28-2011 07:50 PM
Geoff@Bestop
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Originally Posted by DallanG View Post
Can the cleaner be purchased right from your website?
No, we don't sell anything. Gotta go thru one of our many fantastic retailers.
03-28-2011 07:38 PM
DallanG
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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop View Post
The streaks, yes, it will take care of those.

The scratches: it won't remove them, but it kind of "fills" them in and makes them a lot less noticeable.
Can the cleaner be purchased right from your website?
03-28-2011 09:02 AM
Geoff@Bestop
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Originally Posted by DallanG View Post

My windows have light scratches on them & streaks from rainwater running down them. Will the window cleaner take the streaks off?
The streaks, yes, it will take care of those.

The scratches: it won't remove them, but it kind of "fills" them in and makes them a lot less noticeable.
03-27-2011 09:39 PM
tha sista Thanks for the post OP...and the video Geoff...its been too cold to wash just yet for me, but I was getting around to searching this one myself!
03-27-2011 07:57 PM
DallanG [QUOTE=Geoff@Bestop;1141756]OH! An excuse to show my newest video.

My windows have light scratches on them & streaks from rainwater running down them. Will the window cleaner take the streaks off?
03-27-2011 06:59 PM
Geoff@Bestop OH! An excuse to show my newest video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKKV4...el_video_title
03-27-2011 05:39 PM
InfernoGirl Yep..... that right there is your best bet. Rinse them well before you touch them....
03-27-2011 05:29 PM
ncossey
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Originally Posted by hbr_31071
Hi all - just bought an "08 Wrangler X soft top and LOVE IT! can anyone give me name of a good product to safety clean the plastic windows and the soft top?
Thank you!!
Holly and the Silver Bullet
Soap, water, and a microfiber cloth.
03-27-2011 04:59 PM
hbr_31071
clean the plastic windows?

Hi all - just bought an "08 Wrangler X soft top and LOVE IT! can anyone give me name of a good product to safety clean the plastic windows and the soft top?
Thank you!!
Holly and the Silver Bullet

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