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08-05-2013 01:27 AM
kdilly
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Originally Posted by dboat View Post

i'd like to see a picture of that for sure..
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08-04-2013 04:45 PM
DBoat
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
My battery's side terminals are used for my winch connections, nothing else. A couple small short bolts (I don't recall the thread size) with lock washers hold the connections in place and there's enough room for that kind of a connection.

If you need multiple power connections like for radios, amplifiers, etc., a terminal strip with individually fused connections works well. My terminal strip is connected to the 12v lug at the rear of the Power Distribution Center, under that small snap-on cover.
I'd like to see a picture of that for sure..
08-04-2013 04:31 PM
gregsjeep13 Good info, Thanks
08-04-2013 04:25 PM
Jerry Bransford My battery's side terminals are used for my winch connections, nothing else. A couple small short bolts (I don't recall the thread size) with lock washers hold the connections in place and there's enough room for that kind of a connection.

If you need multiple power connections like for radios, amplifiers, etc., a terminal strip with individually fused connections works well. My terminal strip is connected to the 12v lug at the rear of the Power Distribution Center, under that small snap-on cover.
08-04-2013 04:17 PM
DBoat I just replaced my battery with the Sears Platinum due to this thread.
Jerry, how did you use the side terminals? there is hardly any room in there for that..post up a pic if you can please
04-26-2013 10:47 AM
sevenservices I go for anything over 700cca. (cold cranking amps). My Chevy Van has a battery w/850cca. I can let that thing sit for two months, breath on the key and she fires up everytime.

Most important is to not let it get dirty on top. They will short out and drain the battery. Here is a little test for you guys, you'll crap your pants to see this. Take a volt meter (set to DCv) out there, open the hood and touch the red to the + of the battery. Touch the - to the plastic in the center of the battery top. Any voltage??? Surprisingly, I've seen a seemingly clean battery have 9v bridged across the plastic!!! That will drain it in a hurry and you won't get near the life out of it.

At least with every oil change you should clean the battery with baking soda and water. Sprinkle baking soda on it, then spray or drip some water. Scrub w/an old toothbrush and rinse away.

Then do the voltage test. You should get a null reading or 0.00v. Absolutely no voltage should go across a battery + to -. Even the slightest amount of residue on top will cause a short.
04-26-2013 10:20 AM
Jerry Bransford Be aware there are two commonly used model identifiers for the dual post Diehard Platinum, the P4 and 34/78DT. And so far as I know, the P4 and 34/78DT is the same exact battery.

The first time I bought one, I told the guy I wanted a 34/78DT & that's what I got. When I most recently wanted another for my replacement Jeep, I got a look of puzzlement from the Sears salesguy & ended up being given the P4 when he couldn't find the 34/78DT in his online catalog. I don't see any difference & I can't find a P4 in their online catalog. I do know many others have ended up with the P4 when they asked for a 34/78DT.
04-25-2013 11:56 PM
lindel I have the 34/78DT. Works great, fits fine. That would be the one I would get again, simply because of the extra options that having dual terminals gets you.
04-25-2013 10:55 PM
DBoat Did a quick search on the Sears website. They list two platinums for our Jeeps. They are:
Group Size 34, and
Group Size 34/78DT.. not sure what the difference is except the 78DT is a little bit larger - 1 inch in width.

link below
Sears - Compare

so which one is the best for us? they are both the same price.

Dana
04-25-2013 02:49 PM
Jerry Bransford Optima's marketing department has simply zoned in on those types of marketplaces. Their design makes them no more suitable for such uses than any other AGM battery is.
04-25-2013 02:26 PM
Timberline I know I have read it in the past, but why does it seem that Optima is really one of the only battery companies that I see talking about using their batteries with multiple accessories?? If you run a lot of accessories, people always toss around the Optima name. Is there really any reason that they are superior in this situation than other companies such as DieHard?? I myself prefer DieHard, but you don't hear them "zoning" in on the accessory aspect when you read on their batteries.
04-25-2013 02:15 PM
Jerry Bransford So far as I know, those are good batteries if you are ok with a conventional 'wet' design that has liquid acid inside. Such batteries are fine for the street but won't hold up as well to the shocks, jars, & vibrations associated with off road use like a solid AGM design battery will.
04-25-2013 01:13 PM
Madden I'm going to need one here soon too, was thinking about just picking up the red top duralast from autozone. Are those as good as they make them out to be?
04-25-2013 12:21 PM
Fullback40 I can tell you what not to get. Optima batteries. Especially red tops. Went through three in my big truck before I gave up and switched. Anytime it goes dead and you have to jump it the battery is ruined
04-25-2013 10:47 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by rgroesbeck1 View Post
Thank you. I am getting close to battery replacement and definitel y want AGM. I did not know about the issues with Optimas. I will look at the DieHard. Sears stores are almost always somewhat nearby if there is an issue.
Good decision, get the Diehard Platinum P4 which is the AGM model that fits your TJ.
04-25-2013 10:10 AM
Kota7x
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Originally Posted by danwat1234 View Post
I use Costco Kirkland car batteries. They are the regular flooded type, but they are cheap and they have a 3 year un-prorated warranty. So what I do, since I am hard on my battery, I take in my battery when it is 2.9 years old and replace it under warranty every time. Doesn't cost me anything and I have a fresh battery. It's still good after 2.9 years but I do it anyway so I never have to worry about a worn out battery.

I think they are made by Johnson Controls but I'm not positive
Johnson Controls is right. I have a buddy that works for them and even with the discount he gets on the Optimas he will still not run them. Since they moved production to Mexico they went downhill fast. I had a new looking Optima Yellow Top in my Jeep when I got it (PO put it in there) and it flat out died on me in the middle of nowhere. I now run the Sears Diehard Platinum and that is the only battery I will run.
04-25-2013 07:37 AM
rgroesbeck1 Thank you. I am getting close to battery replacement and definitel y want AGM. I did not know about the issues with Optimas. I will look at the DieHard. Sears stores are almost always somewhat nearby if there is an issue.
04-24-2013 08:55 PM
danwat1234 I use Costco Kirkland car batteries. They are the regular flooded type, but they are cheap and they have a 3 year un-prorated warranty. So what I do, since I am hard on my battery, I take in my battery when it is 2.9 years old and replace it under warranty every time. Doesn't cost me anything and I have a fresh battery. It's still good after 2.9 years but I do it anyway so I never have to worry about a worn out battery.

I think they are made by Johnson Controls but I'm not positive
05-15-2011 12:42 PM
hookuspookus Interstate
05-14-2011 07:25 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by DEERE G View Post
Can you use the side terminals on the DieHard P4 to hook up a winch only and the top posts for the rest of the Jeep?
Yes, that is how I connected my winch.
05-14-2011 11:50 AM
Wallygator
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Originally Posted by DEERE G View Post
Can you use the side terminals on the DieHard P4 to hook up a winch only and the top posts for the rest of the Jeep?
Sure if it makes for easier connections.
05-14-2011 10:29 AM
DEERE G Can you use the side terminals on the DieHard P4 to hook up a winch only and the top posts for the rest of the Jeep?
04-28-2011 06:52 PM
KBR97 Cool, I'l keep those others in mind when battery shopping.
04-28-2011 06:48 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
Are these Die Hards you guys are talking about dry cell batteries. Thats one reason why someone might want a optima...no spillage and can be mounted pretty much anywhere in any position.
Optima, Odyssey, Exide Orbital, and Diehard Platinum batteries all use the same AGM (absorbed glass mat) technology which means the acid is in paste form, not liquid. The acid paste is soaked into the (fiber)glass matting which is placed between closely packed layers of lead. No spillage is one of the benefits to AGM, the other being that it is shock and vibration proof when compared to a conventional battery that suspends its lead plates in liquid acid.
04-28-2011 06:25 PM
KBR97 Are these Die Hards you guys are talking about dry cell batteries. Thats one reason why someone might want a optima...no spillage and can be mounted pretty much anywhere in any position.
04-28-2011 05:48 PM
LongShot Yes...Im liking the new Diehard Platinum P4. I bought it from Sears a couple of days ago for $199 out here in Vegas.
04-28-2011 02:00 AM
Wallygator Most of the offroaders here in BC run the Yellowtop and I have yet to hear of one failing. Mine was about 5 years old when I crashed and it never gave me an issue. even cold starts at -40 and not plugged in, she started good.
04-27-2011 03:01 PM
ProComp TJ optima yellow top with out a doubt. duel batterys can be a bit of a paint if your not the best at electrical work. the optima will always work. i had one in my old car. i had 3000 watts of audio in it. even in the dead cold of winter it would always turn on with out hesitation.
04-27-2011 02:55 PM
ForumKing Run a dual battery and you shouldn't have any worries.
04-27-2011 12:54 AM
Wallygator Not much availability up here. So the price goes up. Not many people have heard of them because therre really arent many distributors. American company. Down there thee are more distributors and places with more buying power that move more volume. Therefor the manufacturer. give those distributors a better price so they can sell them cheaper.
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