|12-24-2011 09:26 PM|
|annyruok||Hi, real newby here. Had the same issues ( front passenger side floor totally soaked) with my JKu the week I took delivery in Sept. They managed to fix it the second time in, not really sure what else they did besides replace seals. Had the same upgrade issues with my Nav-sirius too, they repaced the entire stereo system. My dealer is Route 46 Chrysler Jeep Dodge in Little Falls NJ. Have not had any water issues since.|
|12-24-2011 10:42 AM|
|12-24-2011 10:22 AM|
|ORNGCR8||I also have a 2011 JKU. I only have the soft top, and I occasionally experience leaks on the passenger side front door when closed. Upon examination, I realized it was an easy fix: the rubber seal around the inside door frame was out of line on the track. Simply tucking it back in where it belongs all the way around stopped water from coming in. Anyone know if there's a recall or TSB on this? Are they replacing the rubber for a tighter seal and fit? Drivers side doesn't do this!|
|12-24-2011 09:45 AM|
In all fairness though, no matter what vehicle you buy, you always risk getting 'that one' which rolled off the assembly line half baked.
My 2011 Sahara is probably the best vehicle I've ever had in terms of enjoyment and sheer visual ecstasy! Being able to customize a bulk of the vehicle to my personal taste is truly fantastic. I have no leaking issues (knock on wood), and in Florida, that is a feat in itself, but would be irritated if I did right out of the gate.
It's unfortunate that you didn't get what you wanted right off the bat. However, good luck with your new vehicle!
|12-24-2011 07:54 AM|
Update - we got our buy back check and bought a mini-van. I know you're all flinching at the thought - but it doesn't leak & if has tons of room for the kids. I love it. We just couldn't risk getting another Wrangler & going through the torture of dealing with Chrysler all over. We bought a Honda & love it.
Good luck to the rest of you! Merry Christmas!
|06-25-2011 11:55 PM|
|06-25-2011 08:44 PM|
Like the previous post said, selling it usually means taking a hit because of depreciation. I hope you stick it out and get it fixed. Best wishes for a speedy repair.
|06-25-2011 06:06 PM|
I would work with it... if you sell it you make take a bath in depreciation. Why not switch to a soft top. Ask them to replace your hard top with one...
Fortunately my 2011 Rubi JK doesn't leak when using the Freedom top (guess I am lucky). I did switch over to a soft top for the summer and it has never leaked.
|06-24-2011 07:42 AM|
We LOVE our Wrangler - but our leaks have been significant enough that I'm not sure we're going to keep it
We're going to give them 1 more shot at fixing it.
If you are looking to buy one - try a 2 door -without the freedom top... We had one for years & never had any trouble with it.
According to our service guy the 4 doors are terrible when it comes to leaks (wish we knew that before we dropped so much $$) but I know 4 people who have one and have never had a drop of water.
Good luck! If you get one - you'll have fun driving it!
|06-23-2011 11:07 PM|
Regarding poor build quality, let's think about this for a minute . . .
Key issues in the design of Jeep tops:
-Two tops that must fit, seal equally well, and be functional year round in all climates.
-Soft top must easily fold back to halfway point (sunrider), be able to fully fold back, and offer fully removable windows.
-Hard top must have easily removable front panels and offer rear window defrost/wiper.
-2 and 4 door versions.
-Effective sound dampening.
-Removable at home by the average consumer.
-Must sit on top of removable doors.
-Must sit on top of foldable windshield.
-Must sit on top of both half doors and full steel doors.
-Must have no permanent mounting points.
-Must have no motorized components, other than hard top rear window wiper.
-Retail price of less than $2k each.
Did I miss anything? Can anybody identify one other vehicle on the market that even attempts such a challenge?
Sometimes they leak. Most of the time they don't, or if they do it's very small. When a leak is large it's usually readily fixable.
In my view, the JK tops are a pretty big accomplishment, not a failure.
|06-23-2011 10:44 PM|
I don't think anyone believes large water leaks are normal or acceptable.
Owners with leaks are understandably frustrated. Sometimes the cause is simply a panel not lined up properly or a pinched seal. Other times the cause isn't directly known. A caring dealer will attempt to cure leaks even if it means replacing seals and tops.
I looked thru the 2007 manual Jeep prepared to help dealers diagnose and fix leaks. Many of the foam pieces and additional sealing is standard on my 2011. That tells me that Jeep has made some attempts to eliminate leaks once and for all.
|06-23-2011 09:52 PM|
|jk'n||No, most people, even if it were not a jeep would work with the dealer to solve issues. You yourself stated that there is a lot of gasket on a jeep in your statement about the panels, in so many words. Out of the thousands of jeeps that they turn out per year, a few have problems and they get posted up on forums like this. If you have already formed an opinion about them then, if I were you, I wouldn't buy one.|
|06-23-2011 09:45 PM|
|06-23-2011 09:41 PM|
|06-23-2011 04:48 PM|
|Wrangler2012||I hate reading these threads considering I'm planning on buying my first Wrangler in a few months. I can deal with a few drops once in a while considering the removable panels but some of you guys are having some pretty serious problems that nobody should find acceptable or make excuses for because "it's a Jeep".|
|06-23-2011 11:33 AM|
I would disagree with you, since there are many people on here (self included) that don't have issues with the freedom tops or doors leaking at all.
It is possible to have the tops and doors not leak.
Its your Jeep, do what you want, but it is covered under warranty for a reason...
|06-23-2011 11:27 AM|
|Nu2Jeep||my 2011 sport leaks as well into the passenger side carpet. water comes in at the bottom of the door. seals look good ect. i am going to fix it myself during my vacation. can't be bothered with the dealer and their BS unless there is an actual recall on it. for now i just put a shamwow between the metal and plastic lip at the bottom door sill when the skies look stormy. it collects everything and puts it into the high lip rugged ridge mat. no wet carpet. i can't say i'm that upset about the issue. i researched the vehicle b4 purchase and knew what i was in for. this vehicle is all about trade-offs.|
|06-23-2011 06:56 AM|
That is great news!! Hope this worked .
Remember avoid opening the doors if the top is really wet... all the water drains right into the cab... trust me I found this out the hard way !!
Felt like I took a bath and it wasn't even Saturday!!
|06-23-2011 06:30 AM|
|Dgdds91||Just got my jeep back yesterday, and they changed the door seal . Rained last night,although not that hard, but no water this morning! I think they might have fixed it! I will keep you posted!|
|06-22-2011 01:14 PM|
|jk'n||Patience is the key here. Keep at it and it will get solved. If you keep it as long as you say you are going to keep it, you will eventually have trouble with leaks again. Mine is only three years old. The dealer solved leaks when it was new. I'm getting the itch to rip out the carpets on mine and bed-line the tub. I've got neoprene seat covers on order. It will matter a lot less after those changes if it leaks. Basically, what I'm saying is that the new will eventually wear off. Nothing wrong with getting the dealer to get the initial kinks out though. Especially if you live in an area of the country that gets a lot of rain. Good luck....steady as she goes.|
|06-22-2011 12:48 PM|
We had a storm last night... Passenger side was dry (that was a first) but the driver's side was wet
This is actually our 2nd wrangler - no problems with the first - & if we weren't planning on driving it for 10 or 15 years- we wouldn't mind a leak or two!
Couldn't get anyone on the phone in the service department today - I think they're as fed up with it as we are!
|06-22-2011 07:21 AM|
Isn't it funny how when they sell it, mum is the word on leaks or any other malady. But when they get you in the service department with a leak, they are "just terrible".
Ten years down the road if you have it that long, it will be a distant memory and all of the fun you have in it will more than offset this minor inconvenience. Trust me on this one. If the jeep is just a passing fancy, you will probably not experience this but the next owner will as they did not have to deal with the warranty issues. Eventually you should experience the joy of owning a jeep but it requires getting it dirty and possibly dinged.
|06-22-2011 06:40 AM|
We just got ours back yesterday. The service manager told us that they are "just terrible" when it comes to leaking. Just waiting for the next hard rain to see if it worked!
This time they replaced both muck seals?!?
Good luck - this has been a complete nightmare - I hope they figure yours out and you get to enjoy your new toy
|06-21-2011 11:17 PM|
|06-13-2011 07:52 AM|
|06-13-2011 07:12 AM|
|06-13-2011 05:57 AM|
We noticed that with the doors right away, too - we have to make sure the kids aren't the last one to close a door
We never open the passenger side doors when we check for leaks because - as you said, all the water comes in as soon as you open a door - lesson learned
I took a pic of the water coming in under the door - I hope the pics will help the dealer figure out how to fix it. Fingers crossed!!!
|06-12-2011 11:21 PM|
|06-12-2011 08:40 PM|
I've also had a leaking issue during high pressure car washes coming in thrudriver side door.So far that is the only place and circumstance that I've noticed it leaking,but then again,I've only had it for 2 weeks.
I've also noticed that I have to slam both the driver and passenger doors because of the seal.I think that it's kinda funny that it says you may have to do this in the brochure!My wife has an '09 and we do not have to slam the doors shut on hers.
|06-12-2011 04:51 PM|
Still no 'mysterious' leaks... keeping fingers crossed.
I did get caught in a bad rain storm with the quarter windows and rear window out. Of course the top is narrow and all the rain water ran into the jeep as I was putting the sides and back on. Found out you should never open the doors when it is raining hard... all the water ends up on the floor and your lap... lol.
Anyway, keep us posted (and good luck).
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