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01-27-2013 10:01 AM
TJ Green
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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop View Post
Thanks! I'll send this to my boss!

Somehow or another, he sees the posts where I say things like "Joe the Quadratec rep kicks puppies for fun," and totally misses posts like this. How is that possible?
hahaha ---- thanks for your video's the one on the header bar was extremely helpful to me
01-26-2013 04:01 PM
TJDave ^Looks great!

Good to see this old thread again. Here is an update on my Bestop Oversize Tire Carrier.

Approaching my 3rd wheeling season with this carrier, and have been carrying a 35" spare the whole time. No problems to date. I've only had to re-adjust/tighten the large nut that snugs the tire tight against rubber bumpstops a couple times.
01-26-2013 03:56 PM
jgorm How do you guys think this would do with a 110 lb tire?
01-26-2013 02:57 PM
TJs99TJ some pics
01-26-2013 02:52 PM
TJs99TJ will try to post some pics
01-26-2013 02:50 PM
TJs99TJ Just installed one on my '99 TJ today. Got it for $297 on Amazon...free shipping...arrived in 1 day....easy install...no issues with holes not lining up at all....no rattling etc....great oversized tire carrier....I run 33's......
07-05-2012 04:21 PM
jeremytbjones Just ordered mine and one for my GFs jeep as well, thanks for all the install tips guys.
08-24-2011 02:38 AM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by dfry View Post
The upper backing plate goes on top of the sport bar plate.
Yep...don't listen to me mentioning it in the original post...I goofed...
08-23-2011 10:40 PM
dfry
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Originally Posted by loons71
So does the upper inside bracket go under the bar or on top like the instructions show it? Going to install mine in a few days
The upper backing plate goes on top of the sport bar plate.
08-23-2011 10:23 PM
loons71 So does the upper inside bracket go under the bar or on top like the instructions show it? Going to install mine in a few days
08-11-2011 07:43 PM
dale 3 When ever you drill threw a body your obviously adding more of a chance of a rust area.I bought a 06 with this carrier already installed.Jeep has 25k on it.I don't know if they came with a rubber gasket between the paint and brackets were drilled,but this one did.I would suggest replacing all mounting hardware with stainless. All nuts stainless and locking.I repainted and noticed nuts rusty and bolt broke in wheel well area.This is from the northeast.
08-11-2011 07:04 PM
thejafe Been doing a lot of research on this setup and everyone's comments and reviews in this thread have been extremely helpful. However, I was in touch with the manager of a local 4x4 shop today and he claims that they refuse to sell these carriers because of how many TJ's an YJ's they've removed this setup from because of major rust issues and tubs cracking around the hinges. Anyone noticing symptoms like these? We are in the northeast and rust is a major concern.
08-01-2011 03:41 AM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by longtooth View Post
Might have missed this in the thread. What size tire can this handle?
I believe it's advertised to handle up to a 37" tire...although i think I recall some people saying that they personally wouldn't put anything over a 35" on it due to the 35" feeling like a pretty hefty load on it.
07-31-2011 11:11 PM
dfry
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Originally Posted by dfry
I followed Bestops directions to the letter and while my holes were slightly high...
Sorry, need to correct this (getting late I guess). Meant to say, "...my holes were slightly LOW...". Meaning the holes I drilled were lower than the support bracket holes by maybe 1/16" only. Not much and apparently not enough to matter. I did align them from the outside looking in toward the support bracket, but didn't notice the very slight offset. Apologies for any confusion.
07-31-2011 10:29 PM
olsen2420
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Originally Posted by dfry View Post
I followed Bestops directions to the letter and while my holes were slightly high, according to the inner support bracket, I didn't have to re-drill or elongate them. The inner support bracket conformed to the measured holes. Something else to thing about if you decide to use the support bracket as a hole template is that the support bracket mounting holes, to the roll cage support, are slotted to allow for variances in Jeep build.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd follow the instructions provided for determining where to drill the holes, drill a small pilot hole using the outside upper bracket and align that to the inside support bracket, them make minor adjustments based on the fit. Perhaps using the inner support bracket as a guide once aligned with pilot hole. Again, you want to make sure the upper bracket is not so high as to interfere with the top. Just my thoughts...
Yeah that makes alot of since just doing a pilot hole and eyeing it to see if you can see the other bracket behind the tub. I'll do that for sure
07-31-2011 10:26 PM
dfry I followed Bestops directions to the letter and while my holes were slightly high, according to the inner support bracket, I didn't have to re-drill or elongate them. The inner support bracket conformed to the measured holes. Something else to thing about if you decide to use the support bracket as a hole template is that the support bracket mounting holes, to the roll cage support, are slotted to allow for variances in Jeep build.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd follow the instructions provided for determining where to drill the holes, drill a small pilot hole using the outside upper bracket and align that to the inside support bracket, them make minor adjustments based on the fit. Perhaps using the inner support bracket as a guide once aligned with pilot hole. Again, you want to make sure the upper bracket is not so high as to interfere with the top. Just my thoughts...
07-31-2011 09:04 PM
olsen2420
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Originally Posted by dfry View Post
There is perhaps 4" clearance between roll cage and back of tub. With proper tools I don't see why you couldn't do it this way. You do want to make sure the upper outer bracket is not mounted to high, or it could interfere with the soft top. If you go this route, measure and measure again, maybe drill a pilot hole to verify bracket placement.

Also the tire carrier is rated for up to a 37" tire.
Yeah I was figuring since you have to mount the backing bracket anyways to the roll bar inside the jeep that if you just sit in the back and look directly through those holes that you could drill a pilot hole like you said, right through the middle and that give you a good hole for the outer piece.

Also anyone who has one of the bestop carriers can chime in and give the measurements of the holes on the upper outer bracket since the ones bestop has are off. That would be from the edge of the tailgate opening to where they drilled or put the bolt? That would probably help with future peoples install maybe? Could be wrong if each jeep tj is different
07-31-2011 08:50 PM
dfry
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Originally Posted by olsen2420
Was wondering if someone could chime in,

Could you possibly bolt the bracket onto the factory roll bar and then drill through those holes to the outside of the jeeps tub? Thus you don't have to worry about the holes being off when you try to put the bolts through the holes drilled on the outside of the tub into the bracket? I could be wrong but maybe there is some flex in the exterior bracket that makes it easier to line up with the holes drilled from the inside of the jeep..
There is perhaps 4" clearance between roll cage and back of tub. With proper tools I don't see why you couldn't do it this way. You do want to make sure the upper outer bracket is not mounted to high, or it could interfere with the soft top. If you go this route, measure and measure again, maybe drill a pilot hole to verify bracket placement.

Also the tire carrier is rated for up to a 37" tire.
07-31-2011 08:12 PM
longtooth Might have missed this in the thread. What size tire can this handle?
07-31-2011 07:57 PM
olsen2420 Was wondering if someone could chime in,

Could you possibly bolt the bracket onto the factory roll bar and then drill through those holes to the outside of the jeeps tub? Thus you don't have to worry about the holes being off when you try to put the bolts through the holes drilled on the outside of the tub into the bracket? I could be wrong but maybe there is some flex in the exterior bracket that makes it easier to line up with the holes drilled from the inside of the jeep..
07-09-2011 02:56 AM
s3nt3nc3d Installed my 33" spare tire on my carrier today...I'll upgrade my score to an 8/10. Powder coating as mentioned before had a few chips here and there. Measurements may have been fine...or off slightly, but I won't hold it against them because I installed the backing plate wrong the first time and won't ever know if the holes would have matched up right or not before bending it.

Seems to be rattle free, but I still wish I could close the carrier by pushing on the tire...not a huge deal though. I'll get used to it. The 33" tire on a Cragar Soft 8 wheel DOES fit much better than a 31" tire on a stock wheel as well. I think the stock wheel almost has too much backspacing so it's just a pain in the butt to make it fit good. It can be done...but takes a bit more effort.
07-05-2011 12:15 PM
village idiot I've just recently installed one of these and I'd give it a 9/10. Seems to function perfect, just as advertised. I'd read a previous installation review on one of the forums, and that gave the necessary heads up regarding fitment, hardware, and installation. DFry and TJDave, and LJ04, your comments are exactly right. If you know this stuff going into the installation, then no problems. I'm carrying a 33" spare on an '06 TJ and it's real solid. This weekend I was in Moab again and ran Moab Rim, Pritchett Canyon, Hunter Canyon, Behind the Rocks, among other trails, no issues, it held up really solid, didn't loosen or fall off or anything. I think it's a really good product once you get it fitted and installed. I recommend it.
07-05-2011 12:07 PM
s3nt3nc3d Looks good! I'm gonna try and get my spare mounted and balanced today so I can get it on my tire carrier...thats one of the last things I've got left to do.
07-05-2011 11:58 AM
TJDave Here's a couple pics.


07-03-2011 02:23 PM
TJDave Just installed mine last night, and part of today. Like mentioned above, the hardware was the only difficulty I had with my install. But, I made a trip to the hardware store and stocked up on some grade 8 bolts in the sizes provided with the kit.
Did anyone catch a glimpse of that grade 8 bolt on the Bestop TJ video? On the top passenger side mount when they open the tailgate. Only for a second, but I swear it is a gold head on that bolt. I find that very interesting.
The jack nut was a big PITA also. Had to oil and work the threads with a pair pliars, a new longer grade 8 bolt, and a wrench until it went in and out smooth enough to attempt installation. Good thing they gave me two!
I also ignored the measurements provided and used the methods suggested above (mock-up, center punch, remove, drill, mock-up, center punch, remove, drill, install bracket). Tedious, but well worth the effort. Holes all lined up, and the carrier swings easily.

Now that it is all together, I am very happy with it. Love the design, it works great, and no rattles.
06-20-2011 03:11 PM
dfry
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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d
As far as difficulty goes, I think anyone who has the ability to read and follow directions with a little common sense can do this install without too much trouble provided they have access to a decent set of tools. On a difficulty scale I'd give it like a 4 or 5/10.
X2. I was just getting ready to type the same thing...but work got in the way, and just now getting back. I'm fairly well mechanically inclined and have a few decent tools. I'm not easily put off by installations such as this. I've never removed an engine, trans, or axle...yet, but that's primarily because I don't have the larger tools, like an engine hoist, and most things I have do by myself with zero help.

For me, not counting the problems with the torx bolts, it was an enjoyable experience and when done, and each time I use it, it puts a smile on my face knowing I DID IT MYSELF!! Then again, I smile each time I gaze toward my Jeep.
06-20-2011 11:14 AM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop View Post
For most of us, this install will take more than an hour, and most of us won't describe it as "very easy." But I very much like that it was for you!
Agreed on time requirements...especially if you have a stubborn vehicle that wants to strip the bolts out as you try to remove them....

As far as difficulty goes, I think anyone who has the ability to read and follow directions with a little common sense can do this install without too much trouble provided they have access to a decent set of tools. On a difficulty scale I'd give it like a 4 or 5/10.
06-20-2011 09:45 AM
Geoff@Bestop
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Originally Posted by jtalar View Post
Not meaning to dissapoint you Geoff@Bestop but my rig is a TJ 04........
AWESOME! Far from disappointed. You mentioned seeing it on a JK, and then said: "Installation was very easy and only took about an hour" which I guess made me assume incorrectly.

For most of us, this install will take more than an hour, and most of us won't describe it as "very easy." But I very much like that it was for you!
06-19-2011 05:52 PM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by dfry View Post
Also, and maybe I didn't read the instructions correctly, I bolted my upper backing plate on top of the sport bar. I figured with the cut out on it that was the way it installed. Hmmmmm.... Maybe my instructions were different.
Or maybe I didn't read my instructions right...

Now I'm gonna have to go download them and see if I'm an idiot. That may also make the holes line up............we shall see soon enough. If you catch my new thread about patching my rust holes, the upper backing plate will be getting removed soon so I can get those holes fixed and then I'll see how things line up. If they do line up better I'll be raising my score...after I press the bracket back into shape...

Edit: ARGH... I'm an idiot. Well, when I get a chance to press the bracket back straight, I'll let you know if it lines up better. lol
06-19-2011 05:35 PM
UnlimitedLJ04 well i got mine installed. overall I give a 7.5/10.

Pros: It's solid once you get it installed. Overall a good design. Reasonable price.

Cons: Top hinge bracket was missing from kit. A few bolts, washers and nuts were missing. The hardware included sucks. I had to buy a die ($20) to chase the 3/4"-10 bolt, cause it wouldn't thread into anything. The 3/4" nut was also burred up bad enough I couldn't use it - had to buy a new Grade 8 nut. Also had to buy a die for the 1/2-20 UNF bolt, since that was also burred up a bit. Overall, the rest of the hardware is worthless. Geoff needs to take a trip to McGuckins up in Boulder and compare their hardware with real Grade 8. When installing the nutsert (03-06 only), the bolt needed to suck the nutsert down was 1/4" too short, and I ended up destroying the nutsert & bolt. Luckily, an extra was included and I used a longer 1/4" bolt I had to get the nutsert installed. The threads on the 3/8"x3" hinge bolts & nylocks are poorly cut and I'll be replacing them ASAP -actually cross threaded one just trying to test mount brackets. The tub side mounting bracket hardware also crap & too short. I had to drive to the hardware store 1/3 the way through the install to get new hardware. I didn't even use the Bestop flat washers. I bought new Grade 8 5/16" mounting hardware and the only 3/8"x3" bolt (for hinge) the ACE had in stock. Honestly, I'd still buy it if it was $20 more, but included nice Grade 8 hardware....because you gotta spend at least $20 on new hardware anyway.

Word of advice - read the instructions carefully, but don't pay too much attention to the measurements for the hinge brackets. Get the tailgate brackets mounted, then mock everything up, with the hinges. You can then line everything up, and use a center punch to mark the outside hinge screw hole. Unmount everything, drill that one hole, then remount everything and tighten the hinge bracket down. Then unmount everything, center punch & drill the second hole, and remount everything to line it up, loosen the bracket, retighten. Repeat this for top and bottom brackets. This method made the tire swing really nice, but the Bestop instructions had the measurements maybe 1/8" or so off. I also black siliconed the holes drilled in the tub. Make sure to use the drill bit sizes the instructions suggest, and always drill a pilot hole with a 3/16" or smaller bit. If you don't have the 11/32 bit, get one...don't try to use a 5/16", the burrs left from the bit will prevent the bolts from fitting.
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