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12-07-2013 10:48 PM
shotsy
cheap easy fix

Glad to find this information on here. Saved shop fees! Thanks everybody!
12-06-2013 09:17 AM
brighton
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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff View Post
I wonder if this is something that can be seen with a flashlight and mirror? I bought two bushings the other day but I'll hopefully not have to replace the original. However, I'd like to see how it is attached so I'll have an idea of how to replace it by feel if I have to.

Right now it is 22*F outside and I don't feel like crawling around on my back in my unheated garage with partially melted snow dripping from the Jeep to verify the mirror idea.
You can see it by looking from the front of the jeep toward the rear on the driver's side, to the rear of the exhaust crossover. You'll be able to see the shift lever on the driver's side of the t-case and where the bushing attaches. You can check the pics earlier in this thread to identify what you're looking for.

The problem is that while seeing it from this vantage point is possible, it would be difficult to replace it from that position, especially with a hot exhaust. To replace it, it's easier to be underneath it, which means you're doing it blind.

btw, it's 80 degrees and a topless day here.
12-06-2013 12:38 AM
RoadiJeff
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Originally Posted by MTNJeep View Post
I'm not sure how you guys can see this. I just crawled under my jeep and I can feel the part, I can feel the square top of the bushing, but I can't see it. I could barely see it when peeked through the drain hole in the skid plate.
I wonder if this is something that can be seen with a flashlight and mirror? I bought two bushings the other day but I'll hopefully not have to replace the original. However, I'd like to see how it is attached so I'll have an idea of how to replace it by feel if I have to.

Right now it is 22*F outside and I don't feel like crawling around on my back in my unheated garage with partially melted snow dripping from the Jeep to verify the mirror idea.
12-05-2013 10:43 PM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by XLR8 View Post
Subscribed...so I don't forget to get replacements.

So is it still this way in 2014? Why in the hell would something be designed like this to strand owners in an adventure vehicle like a Jeep? Shit, reminds me of how my KTM is engineered.
Yes it's the same in a 2014. It's meant to be the weak link so that you don't screw up your TC. If you are breaking these, you are not shifting into 4wd properly. Stop ham handing it and you'll be fine.
12-05-2013 07:39 PM
jeepnut67 I had to do both pieces on mine a week prior to Jeeptoberfest. I removed the skidplate for easier access. On the top, I could not get the shift knob off. Had to hold the console up as much as possible. Barely got it on with my fingertips. Used a socket and extention to tap it in.
12-05-2013 07:09 PM
brighton
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
To those that have replaced this thing....is it something you can do with your hands or did you need to use tools (to pluck out the old broken one?)
Fingers only. The broken one just basically came apart into a couple of pieces It does take a bit of dexterity to push the new bushing into place but I'm not sure there is a tool that could really help.
12-05-2013 06:47 PM
NFRs2000NYC To those that have replaced this thing....is it something you can do with your hands or did you need to use tools (to pluck out the old broken one?)
12-05-2013 06:43 PM
XLR8 Subscribed...so I don't forget to get replacements.

So is it still this way in 2014? Why in the hell would something be designed like this to strand owners in an adventure vehicle like a Jeep? Shit, reminds me of how my KTM is engineered.
12-05-2013 04:50 PM
MTNJeep Thanks guys. The parts on my Mopar shopping list.
12-05-2013 04:24 PM
brighton
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Originally Posted by lt721 View Post
Exactly right, I replaced mine by feel....
Same here, it was totally by feel.
12-05-2013 04:07 PM
lt721 Exactly right, I replaced mine by feel....
12-05-2013 03:59 PM
MTNJeep
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Originally Posted by brighton View Post
Because of this thread, about a year ago I bought 4 extra bushings to stash in my console. Sure enough, on the 2nd day of a 4-day weekend jeep trip last month, 7 hours from home, the bushing at the transfer case broke when I tried to shift into 4L. If I hadn't had a spare, the rest of the weekend would have probably been wasted. The others in my group were amazed when I pulled out the bag of spares. Ten minutes later, I was back in business.

A word of warning, it's somewhat of a pain to get to, especially laying on your back on rough terrain. It beats the alternative of not having 4wd though. If you don't have spares, do yourself the favor and get some, whether they are 40 cents or 4 dollars, it's worth it.
I'm not sure how you guys can see this. I just crawled under my jeep and I can feel the part, I can feel the square top of the bushing, but I can't see it. I could barely see it when peeked through the drain hole in the skid plate.

Looks to me you would have to replace this by feel or remove the skidplate to see better. let me know if there is a trick to getting to and replacing the bushing.
12-05-2013 03:18 PM
brighton Because of this thread, about a year ago I bought 4 extra bushings to stash in my console. Sure enough, on the 2nd day of a 4-day weekend jeep trip last month, 7 hours from home, the bushing at the transfer case broke when I tried to shift into 4L. If I hadn't had a spare, the rest of the weekend would have probably been wasted. The others in my group were amazed when I pulled out the bag of spares. Ten minutes later, I was back in business.

A word of warning, it's somewhat of a pain to get to, especially laying on your back on rough terrain. It beats the alternative of not having 4wd though. If you don't have spares, do yourself the favor and get some, whether they are 40 cents or 4 dollars, it's worth it.
12-05-2013 01:56 PM
NFRs2000NYC I have like 15 of them in my recovery bag. I think I bought em online for like 40 cents, so I ordered a whole bunch.
07-19-2013 12:52 PM
LameStory Picked up a spare the other day because of this thread. But fair warning, either prices have gone up or I got robbed. Mine was nearly $4.00. Still not bad, though, for the peace of mind.
07-19-2013 12:33 PM
kiser99
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
***** A WARNING TO ALL JK OWNERS 07 TO BRAND NEW WHO WHEEL *******
***** MANUAL TRANSMISSION OR AUTOMATIC....IT DOESN'T MATTER ********

This little sixty cent bushing of death will break at the most in-opportune time when you are out in the middle of no-where. God help you if you don't carry a spare......or five in the glove box.

When I broke mine, I was accused of man handling my stick......
Well since then I've been handling it like a girly-man....
My stick has been much better since.....
It hasn't eaten any additional bushings.....
But I think it is just a poor system and it is just a matter of time before I break another bushing.

If you wheel with a club and keep extras in the box for when your stick gets bent out of shape and goes loose....think of the joy you will experience when you know you have a spare in the box! Now if someone else manhandles their stick....think of the fun you will have when you produce one of those bushings waaaaaay out in the woods. I relish the thought.
This post is so true and I wish I would have read this before my trip to the beach a month ago! Stranded for 5-6 hours after getting hung up in deep sand and I tried to shift from 4H to 4L and SNAP! There went my shifter and subsequently found that it was the dreaded plastic bushing. Didn't have a spare (because I didn't read this post!!). Going to buy extras right now!
06-23-2013 04:25 PM
Jbyrder This happened to me today on the trails. Luckily one of the guys I was with had already heard about this happening. Ill be replacing it hopefully next weekend
06-14-2013 08:01 PM
Rooster76
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Originally Posted by en1ma View Post
This still applies to 2013 jku I'm assuming? I was futzing around with the 4wd when I bought my jku the other day and didn't understand the proper procedure for shifting. I went into 4wd then it felt stuck when I tried to move it back into 2h. Didn't want to move. Eventually it did when I went from park to drive but was hoping I didn't do anything wrong. How do I know if I broke this bushing? I'll go order a few... If my shifter is solid and doesn't want to move easily I'm ok?
Mine was VERY tight the fist about 5 times I shifted into 4-lo. About like picking up a 24 pack of cokes. Now it goes in with no problems. I broke mine in going straight (don't want to turn in 4wd on dry pavement) in a parking lot a few times.

You want to clutch (stick shift) or put the trans in neutral before shifting into, or out of, 4-low. The user manual suggest going 2 mph. I like to stop and put it in. If it doesn't slide in I move forward a foot and try again.

It will be the same with the 2013. If you broke it it wouldn't shift into a different mode (2wd, 4hi, 4low). You could tell on the instrument panel and it would behave like the first post.
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Originally Posted by jearnest View Post
2007 Rubicon, manual transmission - this morning I tried shifting into four wheel drive (4H) and the shift stick is very loose, not feeling anything engaging? thoughts??
FROM THE USER MANUAL
Shifting Procedure
2H to 4H or 4H to 2H
Shifting between 2H and 4H can be made with the vehicle stopped or in motion. With the vehicle in motion, the transfer case will engage/disengage faster if you momentarily release the accelerator pedal after complet- ing the shift. Apply a constant force when shifting the transfer case lever.
4Hto4Lor4Lto4H
With the vehicle rolling at 2 to 3 mph (3 to 5 km/h), shift an automatic transmission into NEUTRAL (N), or press the clutch pedal on a manual transmission. While the vehicle is coasting at 2 to 3 mph (3 to 5 km/h), shift the transfer case lever firmly to the desired position. Do not pause with the transfer case in N (Neutral). Once the shift is completed, place the automatic transmission into DRIVE or release the clutch pedal on a manual transmis- sion.
NOTE: Shifting into or out of 4L is possible with the vehicle completely stopped; however, difficulty may oc- cur due to the mating teeth not being properly aligned. Several attempts may be required for clutch teeth align- ment and shift completion to occur. The preferred method is with the vehicle rolling at 2 to 3 mph (3 to 5 km/h). Avoid attempting to engage or disengage 4L with the vehicle moving faster than 2 to 3 mph (3 to 5 km/h).
WARNING!
Failure to engage a position completely can cause transfer case damage or loss of power and vehicle control. You could have a collision. Do not drive the vehicle unless the transfer case is fully engaged
06-14-2013 05:54 PM
en1ma This still applies to 2013 jku I'm assuming? I was futzing around with the 4wd when I bought my jku the other day and didn't understand the proper procedure for shifting. I went into 4wd then it felt stuck when I tried to move it back into 2h. Didn't want to move. Eventually it did when I went from park to drive but was hoping I didn't do anything wrong. How do I know if I broke this bushing? I'll go order a few... If my shifter is solid and doesn't want to move easily I'm ok?
06-14-2013 03:22 PM
Rooster76
I'm giving this a sticky vote.
09-03-2011 06:18 AM
rics1997
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Originally Posted by ppzi View Post
Mine went last week and the dealer charged me $120 to replace it and said that it broke because I was offroad. I'm working on trying to get get corporate to call the dealer and cover it under warranty.
You should file a BBB complaint for them charging $120 to snap a .57 cent bushing on. I guarantee they will try and get you to drop the complaint by offering you something.

$120 was highway robbery. It sounds like the reason they won't file it under warranty is they known Chrysler won't pay them $120 for this work.
09-03-2011 05:29 AM
jeepkingtn The are exact same part.
09-02-2011 02:55 PM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by Yella View Post
I was stranded once too with the one underneath. I now carry spares. What I wonder is the one on top the same as the one below?
I have three spares in my glove box. They have been in the glove box since two years ago when I got stranded by the bushing of doom. Now, if I'm on the trail wheeling and someone needs one.....I'll be the bushing.....GOD!!
09-01-2011 09:19 PM
Yella
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
From what I'm hearing, there are two. One that connects the shifter to the cable that is reached from above and one that connects the cable to the lever on the transfer case. I got stranded by the one on the transfer case lever. I replaced it from under the jeep...and it was a bit of a chore. But doable.
I was stranded once too with the one underneath. I now carry spares. What I wonder is the one on top the same as the one below?
09-01-2011 07:12 PM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
In order to change that bushing you have to be under the vehicle? You can't remove the cover from inside the vehicle and do it? Thanks!
From what I'm hearing, there are two. One that connects the shifter to the cable that is reached from above and one that connects the cable to the lever on the transfer case. I got stranded by the one on the transfer case lever. I replaced it from under the jeep...and it was a bit of a chore. But doable.
09-01-2011 06:43 AM
demarpaint In order to change that bushing you have to be under the vehicle? You can't remove the cover from inside the vehicle and do it? Thanks!
09-01-2011 01:36 AM
oldblueeyes1984 Alright, so, assuming that the bushing for the upper connection connecting the shifter to the rod, is the same as the lower connection to the transfer case, then the problem is fixed. i just through one of those bushings on there as hard as I could. really wish it was more mechanical rather than a little piece of plastic...

we'll see how she works. just used my last bushing. need to go get a few more!

haha thanks JK'N... i am sure i will have more questions later.
09-01-2011 12:38 AM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by oldblueeyes1984 View Post
Alrigh I have an issue with this too. I figured out the problem with the plastic bushing underneath the center console that connects the shifter to the rod and replaced it.

NOW i am having a simliar issue. Shifter is loose. Bushing is INTACT. rod is moving when actuated but still... nothing is happening and is completely loose.

Help!

What do i gotta do? do i need to access another bushing somewhere? some kind of linkage? if so... how do i get to it? Thanks FELLAS!
Have you inspected the plastic bushing connecting the shifter cable to the lever on the side of the transfer case under the jeep? It is at about where the driver door is. It is very difficult to see. But at the right angle you can see it.
09-01-2011 12:27 AM
oldblueeyes1984 Alrigh I have an issue with this too. I figured out the problem with the plastic bushing underneath the center console that connects the shifter to the rod and replaced it.

NOW i am having a simliar issue. Shifter is loose. Bushing is INTACT. rod is moving when actuated but still... nothing is happening and is completely loose.

Help!

What do i gotta do? do i need to access another bushing somewhere? some kind of linkage? if so... how do i get to it? Thanks FELLAS!
07-06-2011 08:02 PM
Yella After the embarrassing ride home at the end of a yella strap last weekend from the 4x4 trails I was at, I am going to change that little bushing once a year whether it needs it or not. Changing it was a breeze in the driveway; in a mud hole, not so much.

There was remnants of the old bushing on the pin and the flange of it was still there. It looked more deteriorated from the elements being underneath the truck than abuse. It looks and feels like it is made of nylon and a little experience I have with nylon tells me it won't hold up too long in that environment.

I just got my Jeep a month ago so I donít' know how many may have been changed. I suspect this is the first time. The one I put in yesterday might last three years but based on a reminder in my Outlook it only has 364 more days to go.

BTW, GREAT topic here. This is the one that got me to sign up. I should have looked this up on my BlackBerry while I was waiting on that yella strap. That was bad...
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