|06-23-2011 08:10 PM|
|06-23-2011 06:26 PM|
I am new to this site and thought I would jump in with another question. I too am thinking about putting a lift on my Jeep. I do not do real serious off roading - just use it to get into the backcountry for climbing and hunting trips. I am also mechanically challanged when it comes to working on vehicles. I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sahara, 5-speed, 4.0 liter engine. The rear axle is a Dana 44/216MM (Not sure if the front is). I would like to put some 33inch tires on it. Four-wheel Drive.com told me I would need to put a 4 inch lift kit on it. That seems a little high. Right now I run 31 inch tires on it and only get a slight rub if I turn the wheel all the way. A friend who has a 2006 Rubicon installed at a 2.5 inch lift kit with a 1” body lift on his. He has 33 inch tires and does fine. He has offered to help me install the same.
Can you help me out? What do I really need? Will I have to "re-gear" the axles?
|06-22-2011 07:27 AM|
U should lift ur jeep cause mine looks super duper awesome from 10 feet above everything and I can drive over old ladys and children its AWESOME get a lift youll love it
good answer death^
|06-22-2011 07:05 AM|
|06-22-2011 06:56 AM|
|06-22-2011 06:42 AM|
|daggo66||Gearing has nothng to do with the lift. It will compensate for lost power due to larger tires.|
|06-22-2011 12:08 AM|
Cool, thanks guys. I'll obviously wait a while after I get my Jeep before I think about it; I'm just evaluating potential future upgrades.
So what does regearing mean in regards to the lift? How does it help performance?
|06-21-2011 09:46 PM|
My MPG dropped from about 19 HWY to about 15.5 HWY after a 2.5F/2R level/lift. Ouch.
That being said, I didn't buy it for the fuel economy, sooooo yeah. It looks incredible and I get compliments on it everyday.
I like it.
|06-21-2011 12:59 PM|
|06-21-2011 11:50 AM|
|06-21-2011 11:28 AM|
|06-21-2011 10:56 AM|
Fox if your just starting keep in mind that a lift raises you center of gravity. The jeep will tip easier. You might want to try it just the way it is with some people that know what they are doing and find out if it's for you. A stock jeep will go places you would not believe. As your driving skills improve the jeep and the type of offroading you like will dictate the mods you need.
Oh and clear lake why don't you bring your mall crawler down here to the hills and follow my stocker around. lol Don't worry when you turtle it we'll roll you back over.
|06-21-2011 10:40 AM|
|clear lake jeepn||one thing no one has yet to mention....it just LOOKS better with a lift and tires and rims...drive by in grandpas jeep all stocked out and buttoned up with a hardtop..no one bats an eye....lift it...tires rims..take the top and doors off...you get so many looks you almost get tired of it....almost! I hear "nice jeep" all day long everyday..and I love it. I also love pulling up to the stockers on bicycle tires and looking DOWN on them..literally. Am I an egotistical Ahole....yea...and I love every minute of it....|
|06-21-2011 10:27 AM|
A lift by itself does give certain aspects of off roading more clearance just not overall clearance. Of course a lift will not add clearance around the axle area because only bigger tires will raise the axle but a lift will give you better approach clearance because the bumper is higher off the ground. And also it gives more center of jeep clearance so when rock crawling you are going up a step like rock once the front wheels go over it allows the belly to clear better until the rear wheel start up. But as most state the main reason for a lift is to get bigger tires thus having more of an overall clearance.
The downside is if it is a daily driver, gas mileage takes a hit. Just a 2.5" increase in mine cost 2 mpg then the 285/70 tires took another 2 mpg's. Did get 2 mpg's back with Superchips and regearing.
|06-21-2011 09:55 AM|
|deathphoenix99||I know you're just messing, I was just stating. LOL If that's true, I like my truck a lot better than, the dif breather is mounted on the frame right under the bed, so water has to be inside of my truck before it goes in the intake or breather tubes.|
|06-21-2011 09:35 AM|
Mine arent, alot of TJ's have them strapped along the top of the diff/ axle and then up a little. and even if it does raise the frame and they lift, they are still attached to the axle so either they will pull down or get tighter. I was just messing either way so no big deal buddy
|06-21-2011 09:15 AM|
For the downsides, it raises your center of gravity and worsens aerodynamics. If it is high enough (above around ~3" or so on a 4 door), lifting only with bigger coils or coil spacers would create adverse handling characteristics as a consequence of the stock trackbars and control arms being too short. Examples of handling problems could include alignment that would be out and difficult if not impossible to fix, and the jeep would "dart" on the highway.
High quality lift kits will include new trackbars and control arms (or relocation brackets for the old ones) to resolve this. You can also buy these items separately and add them.
Finally, a lift may actually improve handling so long as it's done right. For example, a Sport with this lift kit installed likely handles better than stock.
|06-21-2011 08:33 AM|
|deathphoenix99||^^^Most of those breathers are attached to the body/frame, so doing a suspension lift will lift those up higher as well. Now a body lift is a different story, so I'm not going there.|
|06-21-2011 08:23 AM|
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|06-21-2011 08:20 AM|
|deathphoenix99||A lift will allow you to drive through deeper water/mud versus stock.|
|06-21-2011 08:19 AM|
|clear lake jeepn||
"I've also read it degrades performance. How and to what degree? "
14 degrees due south
|06-21-2011 08:15 AM|
|clear lake jeepn||bigger tires + more articulation = more offroad capability|
|06-21-2011 06:26 AM|
|06-21-2011 12:54 AM|
|troys96xj||Lifts are for off roading so if you don't plan on doing it then I wouldn't recomend lifting it. Lifting and bigger tires does give you better approach, departure and break over angles. It also takes away power if you don't re-gear your axles and can reduce your MPG's by alot. My XJ went from 16 MPG to 7.1 after lifting and big tires. The XJ is my trail rig only so it don't bother me. No reason to lift if your not gonna wheel. Mall crawlers are bad and wheeled Jeeps are good! Just my 2cents.|
|06-21-2011 12:28 AM|
|Jeepoffroad04||Some of the benifits of lifts are to give you higher ground clearance and so you can run bigger tires. Others mite say higher lifts will increase the center of gravity of your jeep.|
|06-20-2011 11:36 PM|
Benefits of a lift?
So what are the benefits of getting a lift? I was reading the pros and cons of 2 doors and 4 doors; 2 doors having better clearing over hill tops and stuff because they're shorter and 4 doors doing better going uphill because they're longer. So would one get a lift for better clearing? I've also read it degrades performance. How and to what degree?