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03-04-2010 06:52 PM
whiteyj Laughing out loud as I read this thinking back to my illustrius college experience. Did my degree on the 25 year plan. A couple of jobs, a wife, and a divorce......One of the last classes I nneded to take was a Communications class. Prof had us stand up and give 5 minutes on ourselves.....Most of the bubblegum crowd wanted to be roadies for rock bands and I was out earning a living working 40 plus a week, living in an apartment I paid for, and driving a sports car I was paying for.

Or the Quality Statistics class where I kept getting A++ on my homework assignments. Never had been an "A" student in my life. Finally asked the prof and he smiles....opens a folder of our recent homework assignments....says this one is yours right? That would be the one printed off the laser printer having been done in MS Excel. Yes that would be mine....... and this is theirs.....The pencil scribble that was barely legible on the sheets torn out of a spiral notebook. Message received loud and clear.

College was almost fun as an adult....ALMOST!
09-10-2007 10:10 PM
kbak303
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Originally Posted by sgnellett View Post
Ken, I am a senior finishing up my degree for certification as a SPED teacher, I hope there are enough of US out there with some sense to save a few of the young ones before they get to the point this kid and others like him are at.
alright good job, man. least from what I have seen around here in North Texas, there aren't many special ed teachers that are male. in all my certification classes men comprised 5-10% of the students. in my graduate classes, i was the ONLY guy in like 18 of the classes..which wasn't a BAD thing...and now out of 2 diagnosticians and 8 teachers and 5 teacher's aides, there are only 3 of us that are men (1 diag, 1 teacher and 1 aide)

honestly, there is a real need for men in the high school SPED ranks to really work with these kids that need the most help

hang in there
KB
09-10-2007 10:06 PM
kbak303
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Originally Posted by sgnellett View Post
Easy w/ the USN jokes!

yeah easy...I mean, the Navy gots some real nice boats so the Corps can get to where they need to be!!



I's kidding!!!!
09-10-2007 09:14 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by kbak303 View Post
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...
Ken, I am a senior finishing up my degree for certification as a SPED teacher, I hope there are enough of US out there with some sense to save a few of the young ones before they get to the point this kid and others like him are at.
09-10-2007 09:10 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by kg4kpg View Post
Well sure, for the Navy. j/k

While yes, he's an idiot, a little tough love might (I stress might) bring him around.
Easy w/ the USN jokes!
09-10-2007 09:07 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by jjseel View Post
"Some people go to the 'fountain of knowlege and take a sip, others dive right in'"
and still others prefer to just gargle!!!

09-10-2007 09:06 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by Walkeraviator View Post
He is one who needs to learn the difference in Knowledge and Wisdom.
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
He's an idiot. Most college kids are idiots.
AMEN TO THAT! I am a full time college student and most days I think my head will explode if I have to explain to one more lil skull full of mush why Che Guevara is no hero, why Canada, or France, or Ass-hole-istan isn't the greatest place to live, and why the War on Terror is so important to win, they have no clue about the world beyond the I-pod, facebook, & beerpong!
09-10-2007 08:44 PM
amy
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Originally Posted by jjseel View Post
Yup. I have personally DESTROYED several yardsticks with my butt. I have had to "cut my own switches" also.
My Mom used the yardstick on my brother. He sneered and said, "That didn't hurt." She broke the yardstick on him. He never mouthed off to her again, even when he got to be a foot taller than her.

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My son will attest to the fact that I continued the tough love heritage with him, he turned out great, but it was iffy that he was going to live to adulthood. It sucks (and is a great thing, at the same time) to have a child bigger and smarter than you are!
That is even more true when she's only 10!
09-10-2007 05:01 PM
kbak303 lol my sister in law (very liberal ph.d living up North) has threatened to call CPS on me when she visits because my 5 yr old has rules, is reminded of the rules when need be...and does get sent to her room

I've not had to give a tap on her rear since she was 18 months old and wouldn't stop going near the stove ....but she gets a bad look and she is reminded of what can happen...

the reason i get threatened with a 'phone call' is my sis in law encouraged my daughter to do something she's not allowed to, and my 5 yr old said 'i can't do that or daddy will break my ass'....oh well...call 'em...she's well fed, has more toys strewn about than a Toys R Us truck jackknifed on I-44, has a good roof on her head, and she has her own Barbie Wrangler

it's not cute to cuss..but it was funny....we've since gotten her to the point that 'i'll get in trouble if i do that'

i have an angel for a daughter though, i was told that at kindergarten she's very smart and very well behaved..maybe it was lip service
09-10-2007 03:07 PM
Odhinn
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Originally Posted by amy View Post
Does "Quit your crying or I'll give you something to cry about" ring a bell?
Oh yeah, Heard them too.
09-10-2007 08:13 AM
erickpl My wife is back in college to finally get her degree. She even has classes with our daughter.

Why did she go back?
1. She didn't have the opportunity earlier (various reasons)
2. She wants to continue to grow.
3. She likes the challenge.

I don't think I could go back to college, even for an advanced degree. I'd probably want to eliminate the 'children' who are there and don't GAF.

Perhaps the 'wrinkly' lady recently had a spouse die and realized that she wanted something to do to keep her mind sharp.

I think that kid is just afraid he will have to beat the 'wrinkly' lady's test scores.
09-10-2007 07:13 AM
kg4kpg My great-grandmother used to make me get my own switch. But she also walked with a cane, never understood why she didn't just try to beat us with that. My dad had his 3 inch western belt with a couple concho's, used more for threats than actual beat-downs. Ah, the good life.
Something I would like to do when I retire from the army is become an JROTC instructor. Maybe once I retire from the Army and the VA.
09-10-2007 02:33 AM
jjseel Yup. I have personally DESTROYED several yardsticks with my butt. I have had to "cut my own switches" also. My son will attest to the fact that I continued the tough love heritage with him, he turned out great, but it was iffy that he was going to live to adulthood. It sucks (and is a great thing, at the same time) to have a child bigger and smarter than you are!
09-10-2007 12:20 AM
amy Dang, Odhinn, I think our Moms must be related. I never had to cut my own switch, Mom kept a yardstick handy (she was a seamstress) but the rest sounds about right. Does "Quit your crying or I'll give you something to cry about" ring a bell?

kbak303, I see that same attitude in 5 year olds. I would never have even thought some of the things that these kids say, loudly, to adults. But, you're right about the kids who aren't like that. They make going to work a joy.
09-09-2007 09:31 PM
Odhinn
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Originally Posted by kbak303 View Post
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...
I commend you on your choice to educate our young generation. Kids now wouldn't be able to function with the way some of us were raised. I still remember being told to speak only when spoken to, or go cut your switch, and my all time personal favorite "If your not bleeding don't cry!" (my Mother actually told me this one). Either way the whole situation makes me nervous when our generation has to relinquish control of the country over to them. I might just have to disappear into the Rockies with my family.
09-09-2007 07:57 PM
kbak303
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Originally Posted by Odhinn View Post
I saw a few that I wouldn't turn my back to, or share a fox hole with.

Kids that have no clue what real life is all about and Profs that teach opinion and not fact. Not all are like this but more then I would like to see. The attitude this kid shows is exactly what I am seeing in college now. Kids seem to care more about texting/talking smack then actually making something of their lives and being productive instead of destructive. Maybe its a defense mechanism due to insecurity or maybe just the fact that most have never been held accountable for their actions. Either way it can only end bad for older generations when they reach retirement.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers with the younger jeepers we have here just stating the opinion I have developed dealing with the younger crowd both at work and at college.

I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...
09-08-2007 09:08 PM
OdhinnsChick Went to my sci lab this morning. Mostly people over 25 in there. I had a great time. More so than with those air headed, gum smakin', cell phone talkin', blond bimbo's that I went to orientation with. lol If it wasn't for "OLD people" these people would never be sitting in a classroom.
09-08-2007 09:05 PM
kg4kpg
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Originally Posted by Levinoss View Post
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?
"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"
~Lev
Well sure, for the Navy. j/k

While yes, he's an idiot, a little tough love might (I stress might) bring him around.
09-08-2007 11:15 AM
#12 oh man when i saw this post i was mad then i read the opening post, and my attitude changed i am glad there are persons that value education. this kid i would naturally assume, will learn someday. i post on a camaro forum too and the general consensus of members reflect this attitude, young and dumb, needless to say these type of posts are made all the time.

ps i have a pic of my new jeep but i am not sure how to put it up on my signature
09-08-2007 10:52 AM
Levinoss
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Originally Posted by activelydying View Post
Wouldn't that be better anyway?
No

~Lev
09-08-2007 06:44 AM
activelydying
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Originally Posted by Levinoss View Post
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev
Wouldn't that be better anyway?
09-08-2007 06:39 AM
Odhinn
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Originally Posted by Levinoss View Post
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev

I saw a few that I wouldn't turn my back to, or share a fox hole with.

I went back to college last year and saw a few things that disturbed me. Kids that have no clue what real life is all about and Profs that teach opinion and not fact. Not all are like this but more then I would like to see. The attitude this kid shows is exactly what I am seeing in college now. Kids seem to care more about texting/talking smack then actually making something of their lives and being productive instead of destructive. Maybe its a defense mechanism due to insecurity or maybe just the fact that most have never been held accountable for their actions. Either way it can only end bad for older generations when they reach retirement.

Lev asked me a question about a week ago that made me think about something very important. "Were you worried about your generation running the country?" I honestly said no. I have my doubts about this generation and their idea of what reality really is. As in all generations there is good and bad, but which outweighs the other in our most current one.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers with the younger jeepers we have here just stating the opinion I have developed dealing with the younger crowd both at work and at college.
09-07-2007 09:49 PM
Levinoss
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Originally Posted by kg4kpg View Post
That punk kid needs to get drafted.
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev
09-07-2007 09:26 PM
kg4kpg
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Originally Posted by Unlimited View Post
Simple answer: When you stop learning, you die!

I just started back to school to finish my degree (I'm 47). I can tell you that it's pretty tough for someone my age to get back into the whole school thing, especially when you have a full time career and a family.

There is a 68 year old woman in my cohort. She is there because it was her goal when she was young to get a college degree. She quit college to get married and raise a family. Then she had to take care of her dying mother, then her dying husband. There was never a good time to go back to school, but the fact that she didn't finish her degree had always bothered her. She feels lick she was successful in everything in her life but school. Now, she's retired and has time. People like that should be an inspiration. It's a lot harder to be in school when you don't have to be there. A lot of people are in school because they feel that they have to be there in order to get a good job or because their parents say so. Someone that goes to school because it's important to them to be educated is rare in today's society.

The punk that wrote the blog post is probably attending college on his parent's dime and has no appreciation for the value of the education he is getting. I think the better question is: Why is he in college?

On Edit: In re-reading this post, it seems on the surface to be judgmental against anyone that doesn’t have a college degree. It’s not. My personal opinion is that we, as individuals need to do what we believe is best for ourselves. If that includes college, great! If not, that’s great too. We all have our place in this world, our job is to find it. I tell my kids to do what they love to do and be the best at it they can be, but never stop learning.

What angers me is that this kid is being handed an education for free. All he has to do is sit in class and then go party. I haven’t been wheelin’ for months because that is one thing I’ve had to give up in order to get my school work done. I could be wheeling up in Big Bear tomorrow with tiny, instead I’ll be sitting at my computer finishing two papers and a 15 minute Powerpoint presentation.
Well said. At 41 I am hoping to start back to school in January. I can have an associates in just over a year with the credits I already have plus what ever they convert from my military service. most of mine will be online, but at the end of the rainbow is a GS-12 Contract Specialist job here at the VA. I imagine I am going to be challenged. That punk kid needs to get drafted.
09-07-2007 08:54 PM
jjseel "Some people go to the 'fountain of knowlege and take a sip, others dive right in'"
09-07-2007 08:47 PM
Texapple nicely said, unlimited

......I just walked out those college doors and will be re-entering them next year.

OMG, am I "wrinkly" ????????
09-07-2007 04:06 PM
ygohome your mom goes to college
09-07-2007 11:58 AM
Walkeraviator He is one who needs to learn the difference in Knowledge and Wisdom.
09-07-2007 10:53 AM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by Levinoss View Post
/discuss

~Lev
He's an idiot. Most college kids are idiots.
09-07-2007 10:44 AM
Unlimited Simple answer: When you stop learning, you die!

I just started back to school to finish my degree (I'm 47). I can tell you that it's pretty tough for someone my age to get back into the whole school thing, especially when you have a full time career and a family.

There is a 68 year old woman in my cohort. She is there because it was her goal when she was young to get a college degree. She quit college to get married and raise a family. Then she had to take care of her dying mother, then her dying husband. There was never a good time to go back to school, but the fact that she didn't finish her degree had always bothered her. She feels lick she was successful in everything in her life but school. Now, she's retired and has time. People like that should be an inspiration. It's a lot harder to be in school when you don't have to be there. A lot of people are in school because they feel that they have to be there in order to get a good job or because their parents say so. Someone that goes to school because it's important to them to be educated is rare in today's society.

The punk that wrote the blog post is probably attending college on his parent's dime and has no appreciation for the value of the education he is getting. I think the better question is: Why is he in college?

On Edit: In re-reading this post, it seems on the surface to be judgmental against anyone that doesn’t have a college degree. It’s not. My personal opinion is that we, as individuals need to do what we believe is best for ourselves. If that includes college, great! If not, that’s great too. We all have our place in this world, our job is to find it. I tell my kids to do what they love to do and be the best at it they can be, but never stop learning.

What angers me is that this kid is being handed an education for free. All he has to do is sit in class and then go party. I haven’t been wheelin’ for months because that is one thing I’ve had to give up in order to get my school work done. I could be wheeling up in Big Bear tomorrow with tiny, instead I’ll be sitting at my computer finishing two papers and a 15 minute Powerpoint presentation.
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