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09-20-2007 05:35 AM
04blackunlimited Well got the jeep back from the alignment shop and it still does it????? They balanced the tires and rotated them, lowered the caster and fixed the toe and still it does it??? So pretty much I'm about loosing my mind.. I called RE again and they said no way should I need lowers with the 2" BB, they didnt have any ideas for me so I'm lost
09-19-2007 07:26 AM
04blackunlimited yeah I'm almost to that point again to put the thornies back on lol. When I talked to RE they said its because of the larger contact patch with the bigger tires. Just FYI if you want the cam bolts they are only 17 through dodge dealership, thats what I did..
09-19-2007 07:23 AM
nregas1 Sounds dumb but check that everything up there is well lubed. I had DW with my 31's, went through all the same stuff as you, kept going back to discount tire for balance, rebalance, road force balance, etc. Nothing loose underneath. Then realized the lube points were being neglected as a part of the dealership $45 oil/lube visits. Lube'd it up and it made all the difference. Now just have a slight shimmy (cam bolts are next). Switched my 33's back on and the shimmy is now almost completely gone. Go figure. I always thought biggers tires would make it worse.
09-19-2007 06:12 AM
04blackunlimited I think they checked that, but its going into the shop again today at 8am so hopefully this time it will get fixed. But I will have them check those again..
09-18-2007 06:22 PM
Rawkon make sure your trackbar isnt messed up. Have someone sit in the driver seet and shake the steering wheel back and forth and look for play in the trac bar joints and tie rod ends.

Your ball joints, wheel bearings, and other suspension components can be the cause of DW as well. make sure your tires are balanced. You steering stabalizer will not give you DW, but it will mask it.
09-18-2007 05:56 PM
MouthfulOfGrass
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
any one know how much to torque them down to? (I have a good history of ripping bolts due to "torque them down good" )
The '98 TJ service manual states 65 foot lbs. at the frame end & 55 foot lbs. at the axle end.

http://www.vintagemusicprojects.com/...emanuals/TJ98/
09-18-2007 09:06 AM
04blackunlimited I guess it makes sense lol. I'm just waiting on a call back from the machanic to let me know when they can get it back in to fix it..

IMO: RE is very good to deal with after the fact if you have any questions about there lifts or suspension parts... Not sure about any other company but they very well could have sold me the farm when I called about possibly needing lowers and a new track bar, but they advised to go another route which was cool with me to save some money lol
09-18-2007 08:42 AM
tazmann910 I just got my alignment done last week and my caster is at 4.3.
09-18-2007 05:18 AM
04blackunlimited Well they finally did the alignment yesterday and it didnt fix the problem the checked everything over again, still shakes.... So I called RE last night and they said that the DW is 90% tire??? They also said that when you do the caster adjustment not to put it into spec, he said that they actually want to go the other way with the caster adjustment. Mine started at 5.4 I think and he put more into it. The guy from RE said that you might have to go as low at 4.0.... I never knew that caster would make this much of a difference?!?!?! Any help
09-15-2007 12:20 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by MouthfulOfGrass View Post
Important to check the track bar, doesn't seem like it would matter much but it does. Torque those bolts down.

any one know how much to torque them down to? (I have a good history of ripping bolts due to "torque them down good" )
09-15-2007 06:23 AM
04blackunlimited Well the shop just wants to try the alignment first I guess its not that far out of caster spec.
It was supposed to be done yesterday but they called and said that the caster bolts that I need are stuck in Chicago.. So now I have to wait till Monday. Hopefully this takes care of it..
09-13-2007 10:59 AM
MouthfulOfGrass Important to check the track bar, doesn't seem like it would matter much but it does. Torque those bolts down.
09-13-2007 10:57 AM
tazmann910 Check your track bar bolts and also your lug nuts. I tightend the track bar bolts and all my lug nuts and she drives like a dream now. Of course this is after an alignment and tire balancing.
09-13-2007 10:40 AM
MouthfulOfGrass My DW appears at speed (35-40+) when I hit a bump in the road or RR tracks, something like that, and it feels like I'm going to lose total control and the front axle is going to fall off. Then I'll slow down and everything will smooth out. Only with the stock tires & wheels, with the 33's it happens also but barely noticeable and I don't have to slow down for it to go away.
09-13-2007 10:27 AM
matt01tj had the same problem had to use my off road tires until i could get a new set of street tires got the wobble around 40 and 65 most of the time i would have to come to a complete stop to get it to quit took tires in to get them balanced and found out i had a bent wheel put a new wheel on and problem was fixed
09-12-2007 03:21 PM
MouthfulOfGrass I already ruled out my alignment & wheel balance. My TRE's are a little wiggley. My steering stabilizer shock is shot, but that's not the cause of my DW.
09-12-2007 03:17 PM
4Jeepn Alignment did the trick for me.
09-12-2007 01:14 PM
04blackunlimited I was thinking that maybe the larger tires wore things out quicker but I checked the parts last night and they were all ok. Hopefully the alignment will help lol
09-12-2007 01:08 PM
MouthfulOfGrass
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Originally Posted by 04blackunlimited View Post
God I hope so. I just dont understand how when I put the stock rims and tires back on that it would get the wobble. I had on the 33" thornies on it and never got the wobble?? confuses me lol
I had the same problem (actually still have it). My thinking is that the bigger wider tires are more stable & heavier and don't allow the DW, kinda strong-arming the situation. Where the stock tires being lighter and skinnier allow the floppiness much easier.
I think it's mostly my stock steering parts are sloppy and I need to upgrade as soon as some $$ comes my way.
09-12-2007 12:48 PM
04blackunlimited Na its just my boss trying to "fit" in
09-12-2007 12:47 PM
tazmann910
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Originally Posted by LIVE TO JEEP,JEEP TO LIVE View Post
This Looks Like A Pretty Boy Jeep.......
A newbie coming on and bashing jeeps..got to love it.
09-12-2007 12:04 PM
LIVE TO JEEP,JEEP TO LIVE This Looks Like A Pretty Boy Jeep.......
09-12-2007 10:52 AM
04blackunlimited
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Originally Posted by tazmann910 View Post
I just had the same thing, but I am running 33's. Get the wheels balanced and an alingment and you should be all set. Also torque down the bolts for your front control arms, trac bar, and sway bar. I found out that my trac bar bolt was loose and that was causing the Death Wobble.

Hope that helps.
thanks taz I didnt see the post till after I posted the last one. Well its at the shop getting aligned as we speak (its good to know people lol) so hopefully
09-12-2007 10:50 AM
04blackunlimited Well I called Rubicon and they wanted me to get the alignment first and then see if that takes care of the DW. He said if not it might need track bar on top of the lowers. WTF
09-12-2007 10:49 AM
tazmann910 I just had the same thing, but I am running 33's. Get the wheels balanced and an alingment and you should be all set. Also torque down the bolts for your front control arms, trac bar, and sway bar. I found out that my trac bar bolt was loose and that was causing the Death Wobble.

Hope that helps.
09-12-2007 09:47 AM
ct-tj roger that. Night man, hope that fixes your problem.
09-12-2007 09:39 AM
04blackunlimited yeah i might have to do that but, I think I'm gonna call RE and order the lowers lol... Might as well as get them. I guess I should have got them to start with lol
09-12-2007 09:35 AM
ct-tj Yeah, I was just thinking that too. Throw them back on and see if it happens again, worst case scenario, its still there, but atleast the thought wont be in the back of your mind.
09-12-2007 09:27 AM
04blackunlimited God I hope so. I just dont understand how when I put the stock rims and tires back on that it would get the wobble. I had on the 33" thornies on it and never got the wobble?? confuses me lol
09-12-2007 09:22 AM
ct-tj I would say that any adjustable should fix the problem. Nice Jeep by the way.
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