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07-08-2011 11:27 PM
xloudnproud
Spartan Locker

Im considering using a spartan posi locker in my near future gear swap does anyone that has one installed dissagree on installing on a daily driver... Whats opinion on this locker and street driving... Its either spartan locker or leaving spider gears in new carrier for my 4.56 gears...input needed please
07-06-2011 08:39 PM
xloudnproud ok lock right locker is being thrown out i was laughed at by 4x4 shop this morning lol sooo... new front and rear carriers fully assembled spider gears full bearings 4.56 gears and on my way...right? missing anything
07-06-2011 12:55 PM
xloudnproud Yeah mines not as bad as yours I have two teeth in bottom of diff one was 180° on other side....
07-06-2011 12:22 AM
tj00wrangler My step dad and I did my gears with trutracs front and rear within a weekend. I got my gears from randy's ring and pinion. I got them for about 250 a pop and 600 for each trutrac. I'd give them a try.

I had to do the rear after some odd ticking sound was coming from.
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lost 6 teeth total.
07-05-2011 10:57 PM
xloudnproud since it just daily driver i was choosing the lock right not a hardcore off road vehicle really looking foward to difference in driveablilty of going from 3.73 to the 4.56's should I stay away from any brand of gears
07-05-2011 08:39 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
this is actually the quitest broken rearend ive ever had the others were a very distinct loud constant knock while moving this is a very small tick when coasting only... OH WELL mystery solved new gears it is got a set picked out with master rebuild kit for front and rear $550 and a lock right locker for $250... opinions anyone.
Not sure on your choice. I kinda wish something would give on mine so I can justify the cost of a regear
07-05-2011 08:29 PM
xloudnproud this is actually the quitest broken rearend ive ever had the others were a very distinct loud constant knock while moving this is a very small tick when coasting only... OH WELL mystery solved new gears it is got a set picked out with master rebuild kit for front and rear $550 and a lock right locker for $250... opinions anyone.
07-05-2011 08:24 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud View Post
well everyone here is what we have...
That sux!!!!!!!
07-05-2011 08:09 PM
kjeeper10 Ouch
07-05-2011 07:21 PM
xloudnproud 2 teeth sitting at very bottom when removing cover
07-05-2011 07:20 PM
xloudnproud well everyone here is what we have...
07-05-2011 04:49 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud View Post
Yeah mine only is clicking now when coasting rolling in nuetral and de accelerating it just has a slight rattle with driving normal and accelerating.... Nothing like the constant knock or pop when I blew out my chevy rear end it was awful loud
That sounds almost like what mine did, I only heard it clicking when coasting or stopping, when I hit the gas I couldn't hear it. Might want to get it to a shop really soon and have it checked out, you still might be able to salvage it instead of having to buy all new parts.
07-05-2011 04:41 PM
xloudnproud Yeah mine only is clicking now when coasting rolling in nuetral and de accelerating it just has a slight rattle with driving normal and accelerating.... Nothing like the constant knock or pop when I blew out my chevy rear end it was awful loud
07-05-2011 03:55 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud View Post
Could I see the possible cross pin broken if I remove the diff cover and much involved in replacing that if its my culprit
Honestly I wouldn't know, I had a shop fix mine, they were able to put in a new hardened forged cross pin, the first shop that did my gear swap just ground down my factory pin to make it fit and that's why it broke. Luckily I didn't mess anything else up, I was still able to drive with it clicking so it was about a week before I took it to get looked at.
07-05-2011 03:45 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by ipleadda2nd
I had a buddy who neutral dropped at 2500-3000 RPM in a 85 Caprice Classic back in the 90s. It went "thunk" and we rolled backwards. Tiny pieces of gear all over. It must have been that weak 8.5" Chevy rear and not the neutral drop.

I am going to regear my Jeep very soon. I have confidence that given good instructions and purchasing the required tools I will be successful. Hearing what some have to say this seems like the ultimate DIY challenge!
Lol. Yep.
07-05-2011 03:33 PM
ipleadda2nd I had a buddy who neutral dropped at 2500-3000 RPM in a 85 Caprice Classic back in the 90s. It went "thunk" and we rolled backwards. Tiny pieces of gear all over. It must have been that weak 8.5" Chevy rear....

I am going to regear my Jeep very soon. I have confidence that given good instructions and purchasing the required tools I will be successful. Hearing what some have to say this seems like the ultimate DIY challenge!
07-05-2011 03:16 PM
xloudnproud Could I see the possible cross pin broken if I remove the diff cover and much involved in replacing that if its my culprit
07-05-2011 02:37 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242

Yea, and I wouldn't mind spending a whole week to get the gears just right(patients). The 2 write ups i found both said it's not as bad as you think with the proper tools
Please post any results. Inspiration for all if you pull it off
07-05-2011 01:44 PM
97wrangler-242
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
There is some pretty complete write ups on the Internet. I was just talking to a friend of my cousin. He is a mechanic but he said, it's not as bad as people put it out to be. Just takes, knowing what to do and patience
Yea, and I wouldn't mind spending a whole week to get the gears just right(patients). The 2 write ups i found both said it's not as bad as you think with the proper tools
07-05-2011 05:43 AM
kjeeper10 There is some pretty complete write ups on the Internet. I was just talking to a friend of my cousin. He is a mechanic but he said, it's not as bad as people put it out to be. Just takes, knowing what to do and patience
07-05-2011 01:23 AM
97wrangler-242
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10

Not recommended, even some of the best
techs on here have their gears done by a professional. Labor intensive and that is why having them done ain't cheap
I know it's very precise but with a little guidance and patients I think I could do it with the proper tools. I wouldn't install the axle if the preload and backlash wasn't perfect
07-05-2011 12:48 AM
Wrangler06
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Not recommended, even some of the best
techs on here have their gears done by a professional. Labor intensive and that is why having them done ain't cheap
a buddy of mine put gears, a locker, and upgraded axles in the rear diff of his chevy silverado by himself in like 2 hours lol he's 20 years old and never been to mechanical school or anything lol thinkin about gettin him to do my regear once i do it lol
07-05-2011 12:16 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242

If you have a lot of tools and mechanically include I have a link to how to set up gears. I'm sure if you studied it, you could do the gears yourself. I may try it myself
Not recommended, even some of the best
techs on here have their gears done by a professional. Labor intensive and that is why having them done ain't cheap
07-05-2011 12:04 AM
97wrangler-242
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
Thanks for the input will be calling a well known 4x4 shop tomorrow that specailizes in drivelines to get labor charge and their gear prices
If you have a lot of tools and mechanically include I have a link to how to set up gears. I'm sure if you studied it, you could do the gears yourself. I may try it myself
07-04-2011 08:58 PM
xloudnproud Thanks for the input will be calling a well known 4x4 shop tomorrow that specailizes in drivelines to get labor charge and their gear prices
07-04-2011 07:25 PM
97wrangler-242
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
so if i was gonna buy gears out right whats the difference in reverse cut straight and all that
Reverse cut is used in high pinion differentials to keep the pinion running on the strong side of the ring gear. Straight cut gears we don't run in axles but those are just straight 45 degree bevels on each gear, very noisy and not nearly as strong as the spiral gears you'll see in axles. Your Dana 30 and 44 are both standard gears, neither reverse or straight cut.

A good list of parts will b gear sets for front and rear axle, depending on miles you will need a minor or master install kit, and you gear oil. This is the right time to throw a locker n there whether it's a 1000$ arb or 250$ lockright, do a locker now.

Look on eBay and all over the Internet for your gear set. Most of the time you can find them much cheaper. I saw a set of motives for my 9" at 112 on eBay and 176.xx but 449.99 from jegs. Big name catalogs will jack up prices
07-04-2011 06:21 PM
xloudnproud so if i was gonna buy gears out right whats the difference in reverse cut straight and all that
07-04-2011 06:15 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by XJ Knight

Sorry for the lack of response. $1200 for parts and labbor give or take a few hundred dollars for regearing the front and rear axles. Be a good time to add a locker if you want one as well

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Thats cheap. Cost around here is around $1200-$1500. I would recommend a shop that specializes in that type of work.
Plan on lockers? great time to install them also, save some loot in the long run
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07-04-2011 05:01 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud View Post
the rear end it has now has the little metal tag on it also besides the one stating the gear ratio... hard to read but it can make out slip so is this limited slip? and what does that tell anyone else about what I have that is currently clicking and broken?
I'm not sure that your case is the same as mine was, but I had a similar loud "POP" come from my rear axle, followed by "click click click click" as I drove. It turned out I had snapped the cross pin that holds the spider gears in place... a new forged pin instaed of the stock one and I was back on the road with no problems.
07-04-2011 04:45 PM
XJ Knight
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Originally Posted by xloudnproud View Post
anyone? parts needed and prices? please
Sorry for the lack of response. $1200 for parts and labbor give or take a few hundred dollars for regearing the front and rear axles. Be a good time to add a locker if you want one as well


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