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07-11-2011 12:37 AM
Ppride14 Yeah I am thinking to start with a good head unit...like the pioneer I listed, that 400 watt 4 channel amp from soundstorm, and the infinity Basslink. Hopefully the head unit and amp will help the stock speakers out, and the Basslink will solve my bass issues. Then, I can always upgrade the speakers later. Thoughts?
07-11-2011 12:16 AM
Turtles TJ
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Originally Posted by peterc View Post
Hey I just had a quick question about the stereos. I want to spend as little money as possible, but I still want to be able to hear my music with the top down going 60+. Whats the cheapest way to make it louder? I know getting a head unit, new speakers, and an amp or two would be ideal, but I can't really afford that yet. So how can I make it louder? Can I just get a new head unit? Or should I just get something else. Sorry to ask a question on someone else's thread I just didn't want to make a whole new one. Thanks in advance!
This is a tough question to answer. A new head unit will help out with some quality issues, but still not a lot of power. You can go the route of getting a cheap 2 channel amp, but then will replace it down the road.

I would just deal with it as long as you can and start saving. If you shop on amazon, you can put together a nice system for around $400, to include amp, sub, new HU. Look up at post #15 and see for yourself.

Its not a good idea to piece together a system unless you know what you want (already have it picked out) and then save and buy each piece (previously selected). But just getting something to have something NEVER works out well for you OR your wallet
07-10-2011 10:35 PM
peterc Hey I just had a quick question about the stereos. I want to spend as little money as possible, but I still want to be able to hear my music with the top down going 60+. Whats the cheapest way to make it louder? I know getting a head unit, new speakers, and an amp or two would be ideal, but I can't really afford that yet. So how can I make it louder? Can I just get a new head unit? Or should I just get something else. Sorry to ask a question on someone else's thread I just didn't want to make a whole new one. Thanks in advance!
07-09-2011 01:26 PM
jorgeII With the new head unit, you will likely be able to configure your system to only send hi frequency signals to your 4 main speakers. In this scenario, your mains would likely be able to keep up with the Infinity Sub. This would also save you plenty of install time and money. Good place to start with the head unit swap and Infinity Sub.

Good Luck w/ ur Jeep Jams!
07-08-2011 07:03 PM
fan of fanboys For head unit I recently bought kenwood bt948hd and love it.

Bluetooth with mic. Hd radio. USB and aux hook up. iPhone pandora. And it's kenwood which is top tier.

Just launched in march, kenwood top model. Retail $350 but I ordered online for $237 shipped.
07-08-2011 06:40 PM
Turtles TJ
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Originally Posted by Ppride14 View Post
Lots of great advice thanks everyone! I have come up with this so far...

Speakers:
Pioneer TS-G1643R 6.5-Inch 2-Way Speakers (Pair)
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-G1643R 6.5-Inch 2-Way Speakers (Pair): Electronics
Pioneer TS-G1343R 5.25-Inch 2-Way Speakers
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-G1343R 5.25-Inch 2-Way Speakers: Electronics

Amp:
SSL EV4.400 EVOLUTION 400W, 4 Channel Power Amplifier
by*Soundstorm
Amazon.com: SSL EV4.400 EVOLUTION 400W, 4 Channel Power Amplifier: Electronics

Head unit:
Pioneer DEH-4300UB CD Receiver with iPod/iPhone Control and MultiColor LCD
Amazon.com: Pioneer DEH-4300UB CD Receiver with iPod/iPhone Control and MultiColor LCD: Electronics

Sub:
Infinity Basslink
Amazon.com: Infinity Basslink 200-Watt, Dual 10" Powered Subwoofer System (Black): Electronics

Extras:
Boss KIT-2 Complete 8 Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit
Amazon.com: Boss KIT-2 Complete 8 Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit: Electronics

TJ speaker adapters
TJ 5.25 Speaker Adapters

I know the amp isn't great quality...but with a good head unit, and a decent 4 channel amp to power those 4 speakers....I should be ok right? Then, with the Basslink I don't have to worry about another amp since it is self powered. Comes out to about $450...and if this setup would work good I would be good with that. Thoughts?

PS: the stock console sub is blown...would it be worth it to replace with this for a little extra kick?
Kicker 6.5" CompVT Car Subwoofer 2 OHM 10CVT652
Amazon.com: Kicker 6.5" CompVT Car Subwoofer 2 OHM 10CVT652: Electronics

From what ive read, the 2 ohm kicker will run off the stock amp too.
I wouldnt mess with the interior speakers. Save yourself the money. Once you amp your interior speakers they will sound like new speakers. JMO
07-08-2011 03:12 PM
Abnmarine Installing this weekend 5.25 Polks up front, 6.5 Polks in the soundbar, Rockford 5 channel amp under the rear seat and a JBL 10" sub I already have. Head unit is a Sony. Tomorrow I spray the Raptor kit and will install the system Sunday. I'm looking forward to the improvement.
07-08-2011 02:58 PM
Ppride14 Lots of great advice thanks everyone! I have come up with this so far...

Speakers:
Pioneer TS-G1643R 6.5-Inch 2-Way Speakers (Pair)
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-G1643R 6.5-Inch 2-Way Speakers (Pair): Electronics
Pioneer TS-G1343R 5.25-Inch 2-Way Speakers
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-G1343R 5.25-Inch 2-Way Speakers: Electronics

Amp:
SSL EV4.400 EVOLUTION 400W, 4 Channel Power Amplifier
by*Soundstorm
Amazon.com: SSL EV4.400 EVOLUTION 400W, 4 Channel Power Amplifier: Electronics

Head unit:
Pioneer DEH-4300UB CD Receiver with iPod/iPhone Control and MultiColor LCD
Amazon.com: Pioneer DEH-4300UB CD Receiver with iPod/iPhone Control and MultiColor LCD: Electronics

Sub:
Infinity Basslink
Amazon.com: Infinity Basslink 200-Watt, Dual 10" Powered Subwoofer System (Black): Electronics

Extras:
Boss KIT-2 Complete 8 Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit
Amazon.com: Boss KIT-2 Complete 8 Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit: Electronics

TJ speaker adapters
TJ 5.25 Speaker Adapters

I know the amp isn't great quality...but with a good head unit, and a decent 4 channel amp to power those 4 speakers....I should be ok right? Then, with the Basslink I don't have to worry about another amp since it is self powered. Comes out to about $450...and if this setup would work good I would be good with that. Thoughts?

PS: the stock console sub is blown...would it be worth it to replace with this for a little extra kick?
Kicker 6.5" CompVT Car Subwoofer 2 OHM 10CVT652
Amazon.com: Kicker 6.5" CompVT Car Subwoofer 2 OHM 10CVT652: Electronics

From what ive read, the 2 ohm kicker will run off the stock amp too.
07-08-2011 02:34 PM
JeepNamedTJ I just installed the 6.5" Polks and 5.25" Polks with the Nalin bracket like he was thinking. Those get the job done. I'm 16 and I could install them. I am now looking into bass options and I'm liking the no amp idea. The 4 Polks are run off of an upgraded head unit and it's good. The bass is the only thing needed after those. IMO
07-08-2011 02:07 PM
Danz-TJ A hi quality head unit with an integral amp my suit your needs......an external amp with give you all the power you need and more......and deliver a hi, clean signal to noise ratio. It's whatever you expect from you system.....for me, it's having 85w in reserve so if it's ever needed.... Say at hiway speed I've got crystal clear, LOUD hi quality tunes. 85w is a lot of power, it might not win any competitions, but it's a lot of power, especially with hi-efficient speakers.
07-08-2011 02:02 PM
Turtles TJ Replacing the interior speakers is the LAST thing you should do, as they are prob the best part of your stock system. I would get the $160 Kenwood HU suggested. Pick out your sub, a bazooka is a great bet, and then a 4 channel amp. This amp will allow you to amplify your speakers up front AND in sound bar, and also the amp. When your stock speakers finally blow, THEN you replace those.

Looking at your current list of items- Speakers about $115 and Sub about $190 = approx $305

Look at these items:

I have the big brother (1600.4) that is one version older. GREAT amp and will run entire system. approx $155

Amazon.com: Re Audio Xt800.4v3 Xt Series Amplifier [700w]: Electronics


This has the ipod cable on the front instead of back, but still great unit. My buddy sells A LOT of these at his car audio shop. I would also get the antenna adapter and wiring harness. All 3 on amazon about $100.

Amazon.com: Kenwood KDC248U In-Dash Head Unit Car Stereo: Electronics

Will also need prob $60 wiring kit for amp which should include RCA's. also need some speaker wire.

All total about $310. I know you dont have a sub with this, BUT you can save the money and add a sub. I would go with this...

Amazon.com: Bazooka BT6024DVC BT Series 6-Inch 4-Ohm Dual Passive Tube: Electronics.

Performs VERY well, and EASY to remove should you need room behind your seat. Add the approx $90 and you are at $400.

about $95 more than your original plan but WAAAAYYYYYYYY better sound quality AND you will have a COMPLETE system.

Im running a similar set up. If you live near Pensacola youre MORE than welcome to come by and have a listen.
07-08-2011 02:00 PM
G-Pur mine are fine with just the head unit upgrade. If you don't like the way it sounds like that, you can always throw in a small amp for the front speakers.
07-08-2011 01:35 PM
Ppride14
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Originally Posted by G-Pur View Post
the basslink is self powered. No amp necessary. I run infinity kappas off of a pioneer head unit, and it works fine. The front keeps up with the sub pretty damn well. Some will say that you should power the front (all 4) speakers, but I haven't had a problem with them being overpowered yet, and there's no distortion from them.
Yeah that's why I like the basslink...no worrying about an amp for it. I am just unsure if I need to do anything besides wire those 4 front speakers in? Like power them through an amp? Or if it would be fine with just an upgraded head unit in there?
07-08-2011 01:13 PM
G-Pur the basslink is self powered. No amp necessary. I run infinity kappas off of a pioneer head unit, and it works fine. The front keeps up with the sub pretty damn well. Some will say that you should power the front (all 4) speakers, but I haven't had a problem with them being overpowered yet, and there's no distortion from them.
07-08-2011 12:51 PM
Ppride14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danz-TJ View Post
You can get by with a 4-way if you go with a powered sub, Bazooka or Infinity are excellent choices. I run a 10" Infinity, the Tubbies in the rear and 2-way Infinity's in the dash....Alpine CDA-117 & Kicker 5-way..... The sound is extremely hi quality and as loud as I can stand it even topless. Do your research before you commit to anything.....The setup I chose has exceeded my expectations.
Yeah i think I am going to go with the basslink as my sub. What kind of amp would I need to run, if I need to run one? Or can I just install the polk speakers up front and in the soundbar, put the basslink behind my rear seat, and upgrade my head unit and be set with that? Thanks for all the great feedback!!
07-08-2011 09:42 AM
G-Pur I run the basslink. Love it.
07-08-2011 08:07 AM
Danz-TJ You can get by with a 4-way if you go with a powered sub, Bazooka or Infinity are excellent choices. I run a 10" Infinity, the Tubbies in the rear and 2-way Infinity's in the dash....Alpine CDA-117 & Kicker 5-way..... The sound is extremely hi quality and as loud as I can stand it even topless. Do your research before you commit to anything.....The setup I chose has exceeded my expectations.
07-08-2011 02:33 AM
Ppride14 Also, what would you guys think of this infinity sub? Amazon.com: Infinity Basslink 200-Watt, Dual 10" Powered Subwoofer System (Black): Electronics

I would like to somewhat save trunk space so I like the idea of having an amplified sub system all wrapped into one.
07-08-2011 01:46 AM
Ppride14 What about one of those bazooka amplified bass tubes? I'm all for simplicity and am just looking for a simple, cost friendly, and effective setup. So I'm thinking that upgrading with those Polk speakers I mentioned, adding the bazooka amplified bass tube, and upgrading my head unit/stereo might do the trick?
07-07-2011 10:38 PM
Kyle03Sport I would first change the dash and soundbar speakers and see where you are at from there. Look for speakers with a low sensitivity rating. Replacing those speakers will do wonders for your sound. To be completely honest, you'll probably end up replacing the head unit (the actual radio) after that, but I'm not sure if I'd do it all at once. If you're thinking about adding an amplifier, make sure you get a head unit with the proper RCA Outputs...they will make adding an amp much easier.
07-07-2011 08:25 PM
Danz-TJ This is a better site, sorry about the earlier one. I found these on Amazon for 190 bucks....you have to buy the clamps separate and can get them in either stainless or black.....these things R O C K !!!! (You clamp'em to you rollcage)

Bazooka 8" Tubbies (Pair) (Black) Wakeboard tower speaker system at Crutchfield.com
07-07-2011 02:52 PM
Danz-TJ Check these out, I'm running these from an Alpine CDA-117 & Kicker 5-way.... The sound is amazing!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007W...331585-8453822
07-07-2011 02:41 PM
sickboy98tj Congrats on the '98 TJ sport... I've got one too... but it's gone from mall crawler to semi-serious wheeler. The grow up fast, and sometimes uncontrollably.. hahaha

Anyway, My TJ used to be a daily driver. With a 50+ mile commute round trip, it sure was nice to be able to listen to some tunes. When the front dash speakers finally gave up the ghost, I pulled the trigger on an audio upgrade. One key I remember reading in Jp Magazine was that When you're looking for speakers for a Jeep that travels with the top down at highway speeds, you want speakers with a sensitivity of at least 92-95 dB. It should say right on the side of the box, or label. I'm not a huge sound system guy, but i'll do the best I can with other info.

The speakers in my sound bar are Kickers, and they came with the Jeep, so I didn't mess with them, they sound pretty good and fit right into the stock enclosure.

I had been through a few decks, but the kenwood that i have was about $160ish a few years ago, and that was with the USB iPod cable so i can lock my iPod in the glove box and control it through the stereo face plate. I highly recommend this. I don't have the number (Jeep is at home)but I can get it if you want. This has served me very reliably for at least 4 or 5 years of hard wheeling/daily driving and is very easy to operate/read, and has way more tuning options than I'll ever need.

My front dash speakers are DW polks with the intergrated tweeters (that's what the label said). Most of the Polks are Marine rated, so they won't die if you get some road spray on them. I got them @ a circuit city a few years back at an out of the box sale for like $75. They were 4x6, and bolted right into where the previous speakers that came with the Jeep were. I believe those were replacements, because the adapter kit was already installed (it's like a flat steel ring with screw holes to hold the speaker).

After that, I picked up a cheapie $35 Wal-Mart sub tube for the trunk, and an install kit for it. This is a trail rig and the sub tube was going to be sharing the trunk with my tools, so I didn't want to spend a lot of money on something that was going to get beat up and possibly get wet in a water crossing or rain, and I didn't want to get something huge that was going to take up space. it was a 10".

Finally my buddy gave me his old (c.2003) Kenwood amp. The only thing I know about this is it has a metal casing and sits on top of the sub next to my ratchets. It's taken severe beatings, dirt, and even some water, and is still working pretty flawlessly.

I'm a little fuzzy on wiring it all together, other than to say we followed all instructions provided with the kits and everything has been working perfectly now for 3+ years, maybe longer. I run an insta-trunk to contain all the tools and the sub/amp so they're not bouncing around in the Jeep on the trail, and I had to re-run the wires to the sub/amp through one of the hols in the insta trunk and grounded the sub to one of the bolts on the insta-trunk to keep things easy and clean.

Other than that, i can easily run down the highway with no top or doors @ 70mph and crank up my tunes and hear everything very clearly. Every one i run into at stop lights hates it (esp guys in the blinged out SUV's/Cars, etc) because I'm in a lifted Jeep, and can actually turn my stereo up loud enough to drown out whatever garbage they're trying to rape my ears with.

OF course, it could be because my exhaust on my 4.0L is louder than their stereo too... I haven't figured that out yet.

Good luck, hope this helps.
07-07-2011 02:26 PM
G-Pur check out crutchfield.com they have specialists that you can chat with online, that can help you out.
07-07-2011 02:02 PM
Ppride14
New owner...sound system advice.

Hey everyone I just purchased a 98 tj sport! I am looking to upgrade the sound system in the jeep...and was looking for some advice. I've done some digging on the forum and have come up with some solutions. I'm looking at installing these polks: Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB521 5.25-Inch Coaxial Speakers (Pair, Silver): Electronics with the 5.25 adapters from Nalin found here: TJ 5.25 Speaker Adapters
I've read that 6.5's fit in the sound bar so i am looking at sticking with the same Polk speakers: Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Coaxial Speakers (Pair, Silver): Electronics
From there, I'm a little more clueless. I don't have a ton of cash to put into the system...but what else would I need along with the speakers? I've heard terms like "head unit" and "4 channel amp" but I'm not sure where to look. Also, are there any options to get some nice bass from a sub without taking up room in the trunk? Thank you for the help!

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