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09-20-2007 09:38 PM
nicolas-eric here you can see that my 12.000 lbs (6.670 lbs on upper layer) winch isn´t strong enough for my TJ in all situations. only on the lowest 2 layers it would be strong enough for that.

09-20-2007 09:26 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
LOL i always thought those weights were pulling something straight up for example you tie something to a stop light or a tree or whatever and it pulls you up...
take a look at this freeware:

http://www.dirfile.com/off_the_road_...calculator.htm

if there´s deep mud and the angle is big enough you need much more winch load than the TJ weights.
btw. my TJ with full tank and without any persons weights about 5000 lbs. two persons and the things i need off the road are some more 750-1000 lbs.

the cable on my winch has 5 layers. on the lower layer it does winch 12.000 lbs. on the upper layer it does only 6670 lbs.

you can see that a 12.000 lbs winch isn´t that wrong for a TJ.

and think about winching a heavier offroader than a small TJ. most of my friends have landrovers or mercedes G that weight 7000 lbs and more.

for that my 12.000 lbs winch is enough most of the time, but sometimes we need to use a snatch block because we need more power.
09-20-2007 09:22 PM
Triple88a btw on that image, is the chain the "tree saver"?
09-20-2007 09:12 PM
jherrin215
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
you use it like this:



on that way your winch has the double power. but it needs twice more time becaus it has to winch the double rope for the same distance.
Thanks!! Makes perfect sense!!
09-20-2007 09:00 PM
Triple88a LOL i always thought those weights were pulling something straight up for example you tie something to a stop light or a tree or whatever and it pulls you up...
09-20-2007 08:06 PM
nicolas-eric you use it like this:



on that way your winch has the double power. but it needs twice more time becaus it has to winch the double rope for the same distance.
09-20-2007 07:59 PM
jherrin215 What is a snatch block and how does it work?? And I understand that a snatch block is the thing in the picture so no one has to point that out for me!!
09-20-2007 07:13 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
sorry, my native language is german and i don´t know all words in english.

No worries Nicolas, you had asked so I was just telling you. No harm on my end boss.
09-20-2007 07:00 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
That's a Snatch Block Nicolas.

Very effective tool.
sorry, my native language is german and i don´t know all words in english.

09-20-2007 06:54 PM
1BLKJP That's a Snatch Block Nicolas.

Very effective tool.
09-20-2007 05:59 PM
nicolas-eric if you get stuck in really deep mud (3ft or more) you need much more than the car weight to pull it out.
i´ve seen a little suzuki that could´t get ou with a 8k winch.
he needed a

to get out (how do you call that in english...?).
that´s why i decided to buy a 12k winch.

on hard trophys through poland, czech rebublic or russia (very very +4 ft deep mud) like the dresden-breslau, they install winches with 4-5x as much power than the full loaded offroader weights.
09-20-2007 05:40 PM
1BLKJP I've stalled out a 9k winch before trying to dead pull a cherokee up over a waterfall.
09-20-2007 05:07 PM
debruins also if it needs to pull u over a rock, then it has to force one side of the axle up and over the rock, and up hill, and though mud... so 8k is what most ppl get
09-20-2007 02:55 PM
RIPBiker13 The rule of thumb is a winch that has a capacity of at least 2x the vehicle you're pulling. When on in incline however it's 4x so you'd want an 8k winch minimum.
09-20-2007 02:41 PM
penguin_in_a_cj ok if you pulled a wrangler with a winch that had a 4k rating it would be able to pull a jeep on flat dry land yes.. but when your stuck you have to pull yourself out and pull your tires out of the suction created.. also alot of times your pushing dirt out with ya. so you need a bigger winch. make since
09-20-2007 12:43 PM
Triple88a
Question about winch and rope ratings?

Hello, I'm confused with winch and rope ratings. On a wrangler that is under 4k lb i'd imagine a 4k lb winch should be able to pull it right out but then why are people running 8k and 9k lb winches on their wrangler? I'm seeing similar numbers on the ropes too. Any info to straighten my confusing is welcome.

Thanks.

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