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12-24-2011 09:58 AM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
That sucks. You'd think after all the years this roof has been in service they'd nail the leak issues. I know the whole Jeep thing etc, but.........water inside a vehicle can cause problems and in some cases health issues.

Has anyone said screw it with the removable top and tried sealing it and making more permanent? Did it work? Stupid question to some I realize, but I was wondering that's all. Maybe there are a few people that really want their Jeeps leak free and can live w/o taking the top off if that's the only choice they have.

Merry Christmas!
There is always a solution that will work for YOU that you shouldn't have to resort to this drastic a cure. Believe me when I say that it will matter less to you as your vehicle ages if you are a true jeep fanatic. Eventually, if you own it long enough the carpets will be out and the tub will be bedlined. Mine is an 08 and is 3-1/2 years old. This next summer may be bedlining year. My son's 92 YJ is bedlined with no carpets. After an outing of frolicking in the mud or a stiff rain when water gets in we just pull the plugs and all is well. If you don't own it that long then the next owner who invests less than you did (because used means less money involved) it will eventually matter none. This is what people mean when they say it is a jeep thing.....not that you should accept this in a new vehicle from the factory leaking like a sieve.
12-24-2011 06:56 AM
jjca We gave up and got a buy back from Jeep - I hope the rest of you figure it out (and Chrysler, too).
Merry Christmas!
12-24-2011 05:41 AM
demarpaint
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Originally Posted by slking03 View Post
Ok I bought a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited September 29, 2011 and it has leaked from the very first day. Every time it rains the carpet is wet under the floor mats in the front both driver and passenger side. The dealer has replaced the T-top seals twice and I just picked it up today and the carpet is wet again on the drivers side because it rained all day yesterday. I am taking it back to the dealer I purchased it from and if they can't fix it I am going to try to force the lemon law on the dealer. I am fed up with Chrysler and I just want my money back. This is my 4th Chrysler vehicle and my last. I don't see an end to this water leak issue. The dealer I took it to says he can't fix it and it has been an ongoing problem with several Jeeps. I am terribly dissapointed. I have wanted this Jeep Wrangler for several years and being able to take the T-tops off and ride around when I first got it was great but I can't put up with my floors being wet all the time and I worry about mold in the carpet and what that will do to my lungs. Even if they get it fixed I am afraid that 3 years down the road when the warranty runs out that it will leak again and then the repairs will be my problem. I just want my money back. $32,000 is a lot of money to spend on a vehicle that leaks. Chrysler needs to put a trolling motor and hang some fishing poles out the back hatch and advertise the Wranglers as so versatile that you can go deep sea fishing everytime it rains. I'm so damn mad Fords are starting to look GOOD!!!!
That sucks. You'd think after all the years this roof has been in service they'd nail the leak issues. I know the whole Jeep thing etc, but.........water inside a vehicle can cause problems and in some cases health issues.

Has anyone said screw it with the removable top and tried sealing it and making more permanent? Did it work? Stupid question to some I realize, but I was wondering that's all. Maybe there are a few people that really want their Jeeps leak free and can live w/o taking the top off if that's the only choice they have.

Merry Christmas!
12-23-2011 05:22 PM
PA ARCTIC i know the feeling all to well. my 07 soft top never stopped leaking above the door handles. no matter what was tried.

move foward to my new arctic. i went up to eye it up on their lot after some heavy rain. peeked inside. nothing. when i test drove it felt around everything. nothing. BEFORE i signed the papers, i soaked it down with a hose good in their detail bay. nothing.

washed it in the driveway monday. nothing.

it sat monday night into tuesday afternoon with some moderate/light rain. went to go to work and looked over at the passengers side door. i saw a few drips of water running down from the upper back corner of the door frame! you got to be kidding. OMG! TOOK IT IN WEDNESDAY MORNING. they readjusted the door and tested it. (out of factory specs). we had a heavy rain last night/this morning. fixed. man i freaked when i saw that on my new arctic. credit to my dealer for putting it right. i pray to the jeep gods thats it!!
12-23-2011 04:37 PM
slking03 Ok I bought a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited September 29, 2011 and it has leaked from the very first day. Every time it rains the carpet is wet under the floor mats in the front both driver and passenger side. The dealer has replaced the T-top seals twice and I just picked it up today and the carpet is wet again on the drivers side because it rained all day yesterday. I am taking it back to the dealer I purchased it from and if they can't fix it I am going to try to force the lemon law on the dealer. I am fed up with Chrysler and I just want my money back. This is my 4th Chrysler vehicle and my last. I don't see an end to this water leak issue. The dealer I took it to says he can't fix it and it has been an ongoing problem with several Jeeps. I am terribly dissapointed. I have wanted this Jeep Wrangler for several years and being able to take the T-tops off and ride around when I first got it was great but I can't put up with my floors being wet all the time and I worry about mold in the carpet and what that will do to my lungs. Even if they get it fixed I am afraid that 3 years down the road when the warranty runs out that it will leak again and then the repairs will be my problem. I just want my money back. $32,000 is a lot of money to spend on a vehicle that leaks. Chrysler needs to put a trolling motor and hang some fishing poles out the back hatch and advertise the Wranglers as so versatile that you can go deep sea fishing everytime it rains. I'm so damn mad Fords are starting to look GOOD!!!!
09-22-2011 12:43 PM
Swaggy finally they replaced my left door rubbers under guarantee and told me there was a recall for this problem...hope it stays dry now...
...already, another problem...my start/stop function doesn't work anymore...and guess what??? My dealer could not solve the problem and sent an email to chrysler for more information...to be continued...
08-31-2011 12:15 AM
desertgoose I must say, almost thought my top leaked for the first time when I felt passenger floor just now. Then I noticed the cap fell off the gallon bottle of water I tossed ob the floor. Just sayin'.....
08-30-2011 10:13 PM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
Good to know. I'm one of those that feels if I spend "upwards of 30+ thousand on a vehicle" it better not leak. I'm glad there is the lemon law to back that up. I was under the impression it only dealt with mechanical and safety issues that couldn't be fixed. I would have hoped that by 2012 Jeep would have gotten the leak gremlins out of the Wranglers. Reading on this site and others it seems they've had the problem for years.
They had many fit and finish, and possibly design issues in the 07 and early 08. If you had been on this forum during that time period, there were a lot of leaking jeeps being reported. The frequency now is way down compared to then. That was when the JK was a new model. I firmly believe that the engineers have been learning the problems and figuring out best methods to keep water out. It would be contrary to good business practice to ignore such a significant issue. There are however so many sealing surfaces and in so many different configurations that I don't think it will ever be perfect.
08-30-2011 05:55 AM
demarpaint
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
I got a replacement vehicle from Chrysler for a leaking top. It is not impossible. There are certain conditions that must be met that are spelled out in your state's lemon law. And for those non-believers out there, when you spend upwards of 30+ thousand on a vehicle, it is not outrageous to expect that it will keep water out when delivered, new. It is one of the major functions of a modern vehicle, to keep the interior dry during a rain storm. As the vehicle ages, all bets are off...after all, it is a jeep.

Good to know. I'm one of those that feels if I spend "upwards of 30+ thousand on a vehicle" it better not leak. I'm glad there is the lemon law to back that up. I was under the impression it only dealt with mechanical and safety issues that couldn't be fixed. I would have hoped that by 2012 Jeep would have gotten the leak gremlins out of the Wranglers. Reading on this site and others it seems they've had the problem for years.
08-29-2011 10:42 AM
cu in oz I had mine in last Monday for its first oil & filter change (1010 mles). On my receipt (free service from my Dealer with a cupon!) it said that the passinger door seal was replaced. I had had zero issues, and had not complained about it so a fix must be in for them to do it.

My Sport w/Hard Top just sat thru a tropical storm and is as dry as it should be.....no leaks anywhere.
08-29-2011 08:28 AM
NicyBeezy I was hit by a monsoon the other day and not a drop got inside. We are good.
08-04-2011 10:35 AM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
Getting a replacement vehicle under the lemon law for a water leak from rain is going to be on tough fight. Good luck! Keep us posted.

I was hoping Jeep would resolve this, a leak would drive me nuts. Are their any DYI repairs that are effective for people who don't remove the hard top?
I got a replacement vehicle from Chrysler for a leaking top. It is not impossible. There are certain conditions that must be met that are spelled out in your state's lemon law. And for those non-believers out there, when you spend upwards of 30+ thousand on a vehicle, it is not outrageous to expect that it will keep water out when delivered, new. It is one of the major functions of a modern vehicle, to keep the interior dry during a rain storm. As the vehicle ages, all bets are off...after all, it is a jeep.
08-04-2011 08:07 AM
teach95
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Originally Posted by Swaggy View Post
Ok, got my Wrangler back from the dealer. They dried out my carpets. They ordered new rubbers and said Chrysler already knew about the problems with leaking water under the doors. Only problem... It could take up to 3 or more weeks to get the new rubbers...
Yesterday evening...it was raining...wet feet again...
this is why I have always thought Jeep should break off from Chrysler--if they knew at corporate, then fix it! Jeep people are going to buy Jeeps--we are loyal! So be honest and up front and fix the problem.

At least though you are getting the new rubbers which should solve everything!
08-04-2011 03:41 AM
Swaggy Ok, got my Wrangler back from the dealer. They dried out my carpets. They ordered new rubbers and said Chrysler already knew about the problems with leaking water under the doors. Only problem... It could take up to 3 or more weeks to get the new rubbers...
Yesterday evening...it was raining...wet feet again...
08-03-2011 10:17 AM
teach95 sorry to hear that guys--I test drove my 3 piece hard top wrangler sport during a monsoon type rain storm--purely accidental of course, but it was good as I was impressed by the how it handled and of course there were no leaks.

Some other poster commented about using 303 protectant on the seals, and after doing so they had no problems. I'm doing that today to be on the safe side!
08-03-2011 09:34 AM
jjca How did it go? Any luck?
08-01-2011 02:20 AM
Swaggy I have an appointment with my dealer tomorrow...I hope he can/will fix the leak... Should all this water have done some dammage to my floor? Should I ask to replace the carpets? ...and still raining in Belgium...!!!
07-22-2011 07:22 PM
Mykll
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Originally Posted by jz68 View Post
I don't care what excuses anybody makes, the fact that Wranglers are so prone to leaks is piss poor design and nothing else. Convertible cars don't have these kinds of issues so lets stop saying it's because it sooooooo hard to keep leaks out when you have a removable top or panels. If engineers can design a retractable hardtop, they can certainly come up with a way to keep a couple "freedom panels" from leaking. Freedom from what, keeping dry?


Looks like the 42 day forecast is the same. Hot, dry, chance of wildfires. I'd like to think the new Jeep would just work right, and I won't have to tell my nephew to hose down my Jeep while I sit inside looking for leaks.
07-22-2011 05:45 PM
jz68 I don't care what excuses anybody makes, the fact that Wranglers are so prone to leaks is piss poor design and nothing else. Convertible cars don't have these kinds of issues so lets stop saying it's because it sooooooo hard to keep leaks out when you have a removable top or panels. If engineers can design a retractable hardtop, they can certainly come up with a way to keep a couple "freedom panels" from leaking. Freedom from what, keeping dry?
07-22-2011 05:33 PM
rodgris could someone tell me what skid plates people are refering to ...exactly...that are missing....can you see it from the front or do you have to get down to look under to see it..thanks
07-22-2011 04:22 PM
tangofoxtrot My 2008 JK leaked like crazy. My 2010 JK Unlimited has never had a leak. Think I am just lucky.
07-22-2011 02:41 PM
Stallion289TX Thanks for sharing your experiences (had I not read them, I would most likely blame my son when I find water on the carpet). I will watch how my new Rubicon handles rain.
07-22-2011 02:11 PM
Dgdds91
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Originally Posted by desertgoose

There is a lip at the bottom of the door. I can't imagine a leak coming from the bottom of the door and traveling up over the sill to get in. That defies the laws of physics unless you are fording a river? Did anybody ever find out where your leak originated? The water likely got through the seal above the window or at the top corner and ran down the door frame to get to the bottom of the door.

I remember one instance of someone saying their leak was between hardtop and windshield and fixed it by being more careful re-installing the panel. But more often then not I'm hearing that it's coming from the bottom of the door. That may be where it is seen entering the cabin but that's irrelevent as you(they) need to fix where the water breaks the seal. If they just keep replacing seal after seal until they get lucky it is wasting everyones time.

I'm just trying to help, if everyone's seals are failing at the same place then it is easier to contact Chrysler, give them the data and get a fix so they can send out a bulletin and get these things fixed right the first time. This could also generate a better design so there are no more leaky Jeeps being made going forward.
I know this is hard to believe, but I actually sat in my jeep while it was raining to determine where the water was coming in. And to my surprise it was coming in under the passenger door over the sill plate! Now I can't tell you if it is coming from the top of the door, the soft top, the hard top or the windshield, but the water was coming in over the sill plate and running into the footwell and soaking the carpet. After 3 tries they replaced the entire door seal and now it does not leak! What can I tell you?
07-22-2011 10:53 AM
Swaggy I have my 2001 Sport Wrangler for 6 weeks now...and every time it rains (In Belgium this summer almost every day) water is leaking in under the passenger door....

I hate this shit... paid al lot of money for my American dream...

Swaggy
07-13-2011 09:29 PM
Rhianon I have a 2011, it rained the night i bought it and when I woke up the passenger floor was soaked. I've had it in 3 times now in just 2 months. I have contacted Chrysler and I actually have a case manager who contacts me before and after each service. The last time I spoke with the service manager at the dealership and he tried to tell me that the leak is going down the outside of the door, in underneath the door and traveling up over the sill to get in. I asked him 3 times if he was trying to tell me rain can travel this way and he insisted that it could. R U SERIOUS!? Anyways the dealership said that they had received special service instructions on exactly how they want these leaks to be fixed because it is such a common problem. It's like a recall but they are only fixing the ones that leak. My boyfriend believes it leaks the way you suggested at the top corner and down inside the door but we will see. It has not rained yet. Has anyone gotten a new Jeep with the Lemon law on these?
07-13-2011 10:47 AM
desertgoose
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Originally Posted by Dgdds91 View Post
My 2011 sahara unlimited leaked when I just went to look at it at the dealer! Same spot (under the front passenger door).
There is a lip at the bottom of the door. I can't imagine a leak coming from the bottom of the door and traveling up over the sill to get in. That defies the laws of physics unless you are fording a river? Did anybody ever find out where your leak originated? The water likely got through the seal above the window or at the top corner and ran down the door frame to get to the bottom of the door.

I remember one instance of someone saying their leak was between hardtop and windshield and fixed it by being more careful re-installing the panel. But more often then not I'm hearing that it's coming from the bottom of the door. That may be where it is seen entering the cabin but that's irrelevent as you(they) need to fix where the water breaks the seal. If they just keep replacing seal after seal until they get lucky it is wasting everyones time.

I'm just trying to help, if everyone's seals are failing at the same place then it is easier to contact Chrysler, give them the data and get a fix so they can send out a bulletin and get these things fixed right the first time. This could also generate a better design so there are no more leaky Jeeps being made going forward.
07-13-2011 08:04 AM
demarpaint Getting a replacement vehicle under the lemon law for a water leak from rain is going to be on tough fight. Good luck! Keep us posted.

I was hoping Jeep would resolve this, a leak would drive me nuts. Are their any DYI repairs that are effective for people who don't remove the hard top?
07-13-2011 07:27 AM
mrMangoTango I have the same problem, and im going about getting a buy back through the dealership i purchased it at. For a new jeep of course. If you want them to buy it back just tell them youre going to get a lawyer and pursue the lemon law.. that is once it has been "fixed" and the problem not resolved.
I talked to the guy who was trying to fix it and he said that they have had many jeeps with this problem and dont know how to fix it. also as stated in another thread most 2011 JKs dont have the skid plates that you paid for, so next time you go to your dealer make sure you get them installed.
07-13-2011 05:33 AM
kjeeper10 I would be pissed

My new to me 07 does not leak. First thing I did was bring it through the wash. I've read a lot about the freedom top leaking so, had to check for myself.
07-13-2011 05:17 AM
Dgdds91 My 2011 sahara unlimited leaked when I just went to look at it at the dealer! Same spot (under the front passenger door). The dealer made up a crazy story that the car was washed with the window open and that I need not worry. That was a big lie! I picked up the car and the first rain came and so did the water leaking in! I hounded the dealer to get it fixed and finally( for now) after the 4 th time replacing the door seal, the leak has stopped! I just hope that the seal works when I go back to my hardtop for the winter. I don't understand why Chrysler would not be making a leak fix top priority for their customers. I did get a lot of help from a Chrysler rep that I was assigned to when I called the complaint center. She was very helpful in getting the dealer to work on my car faster and helpful in getting my skid plate that I was missing, and travel link that was missing. Even with all of the help from her, I still feel the Jeep should have been right from the day of delivery. When you pay almost 40grand for a vehicle, it should be right! Sorry for the vent
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