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04-12-2012 05:24 PM
CrazyBull Well, I do have the 12' Pentastar. I can take my neighbors vette, an 09' in the block but after that I'm pretty much looking at his tail lights. BUT IT IS FUN! Also... I can use his vette as a practice climbing ramp...err, at least once.
04-12-2012 04:16 PM
1quick1
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Originally Posted by Rainynite View Post
Oh..you guys really haven't played with a stick jeep and have a neighbor with a corvette. <sigh> No, you won't get them in the top end, everyone knows that because you are driving something with the aerodynamics of a brick. But from the start.. Go baby go.
haha not sure what kind of Vette he has but there is something wrong with it....

My 02 with Vararam intake, Corsa Catback, 3.42's, and tune ran a 12.6 @116mph.
04-12-2012 12:47 PM
Roshko By the way all four of my jeeps, 2 of them rubicons, were stick.
04-12-2012 12:47 PM
jk'n Even from a stop the jeep doesn't have a chance against the vet. My neighbor made me scream like a little girl in his and he had just gunned it in the parking lot of The Home Depot.....caught me unaware that he was going to do that and I was looking down at the floor. Gave me one of those heart in my throat feelings. It is fun to catch them off guard at a light though.
04-12-2012 12:46 PM
Roshko Is your neighbors vette a 4 banger?
04-12-2012 12:35 PM
CrazyBull Oh..you guys really haven't played with a stick jeep and have a neighbor with a corvette. <sigh> No, you won't get them in the top end, everyone knows that because you are driving something with the aerodynamics of a brick. But from the start.. Go baby go.
04-12-2012 11:47 AM
1quick1 I just came from an 02 Vette and there isn't a Jeep that wasn't extremely modified that would come close to smoking it Unless of course there was snow, mud, or any other obstacle.
04-12-2012 11:43 AM
Roshko The only way a jeep, any jeep, would smoke a corvette, is if both vehicles were on ice or snow. Smoke another one.
04-12-2012 06:44 AM
CrazyBull Here's my Corvette smoking, Sahara intimidating, Hummer recovery Rubi 12' vehicle.
04-11-2012 08:46 PM
CrazyBull
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Originally Posted by mjrkjm View Post
you can beat a corvette off the line?????

anyway i like the orange but im concerned about the fad color and the fact that the color changes every time you look at it.

the red has everything i wanted when i started looking at the wrangler. the orange just has everything. and the M/T which i didnt even like but i still want. ahhhhh what to do?!?!?!?!?
Heck yes you can smoke a corvette with a manual. Popping into 2nd your wheels will squawk. Not to mention you can pass him while stuck in a ditch, snow, mud, etc AND your vehicle is multiplicitaly convertible. And can carry a cooler at the same time, and bicycles, tents, more than two people... The list goes one. No one in their right mind who owns a corvette or prius goes..."Ooooh! Lets go to Moab or the dunes and go ridin."
04-11-2012 11:46 AM
mjrkjm
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Originally Posted by JKatfish View Post
Since you're getting a Sahara, i would make sure it has the 3.73 rear end AND the limited slip options. Red always looks good imo. I don't know, but for a 4 dr, I would definitely get an auto. My other car is a Miata, short throw, easy clutch, snik snik....I had all intentions of getting a manual 2 dr, but liked the auto better, so I ordered one the way I wanted. Extra 5 wks but way worth the wait. Couldn't be happier with my choice and NO REGRETS!
JKU sahara flame red
6 speed MT
saddle leather
body color hard top
soft top
430N nav
connectivity
supplemental airbags
auto a/c
7 spoke rims

just ordered. hopefully it comes in time for memorial day weekend!
04-11-2012 11:41 AM
JKatfish Since you're getting a Sahara, i would make sure it has the 3.73 rear end AND the limited slip options. Red always looks good imo. I don't know, but for a 4 dr, I would definitely get an auto. My other car is a Miata, short throw, easy clutch, snik snik....I had all intentions of getting a manual 2 dr, but liked the auto better, so I ordered one the way I wanted. Extra 5 wks but way worth the wait. Couldn't be happier with my choice and NO REGRETS!
04-11-2012 09:53 AM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by Rainynite View Post
You do have a point. Lots of positives and negs. Depends on preferences and/of control.
I do like the fact that the stick is more fun to drive..AND, I can smoke a corvette off the starting line.
Yah, I did that once......but the guy had fallen asleep at the wheel.
04-11-2012 09:01 AM
mjrkjm
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Originally Posted by Rainynite View Post
You do have a point. Lots of positives and negs. Depends on preferences and/of control.
I do like the fact that the stick is more fun to drive..AND, I can smoke a corvette off the starting line.
you can beat a corvette off the line?????

anyway i like the orange but im concerned about the fad color and the fact that the color changes every time you look at it.

the red has everything i wanted when i started looking at the wrangler. the orange just has everything. and the M/T which i didnt even like but i still want. ahhhhh what to do?!?!?!?!?
04-11-2012 08:52 AM
CrazyBull
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Originally Posted by Cold View Post
There are positives and negatives to both of them. That auto can overheat, the manual you can burn the clutch or kill it in water/mud. The stalling... The crappy kick in the back 4lo shifting... When off road half the time I wish I had a stick for the fun factor but when I start doing technical trails the auto seems better. The more I become familiar with my Jeep out on the trails the more I wish I had a stick.. I miss the "in control factor".. Until I have to cross a "body of water" or I watch someone trying to get up a hill, stalling all over the place and smoking their clutch..then I am glad I have an auto.

I have had both and honestly my opinion is that the auto has more pro's then the stick.
You do have a point. Lots of positives and negs. Depends on preferences and/of control.
I do like the fact that the stick is more fun to drive..AND, I can smoke a corvette off the starting line.
04-11-2012 07:42 AM
dukedallas IMO Be careful buying a "FAD" color... when in doubt pick old faithful Red,White,Blue,Black,Green. I had the hardest time finding Rubicon in Flame Red on lots anywhere.
04-10-2012 10:45 PM
mjrkjm so i had a chance and found a dealer with an MT to try. man they are hard to come by. i wasnt crazy about the clutch or shifter. very trucky with a lot of movement. but im sure i can get used to it.

the 2 cars my dealer has sourced for me, the auto is flame red (which i want), has most every option i want and is cheaper. they can also get me an orange crush (which i can get used to) with every option imaginable with a MT. its also a little more expensive.

im really struggling to decide which to select. thoughts?
04-10-2012 01:58 PM
mud_puppy My first Jeep, an '07 JK, was an mt. I really enjoy driving a manual, and it always feels like I have more direct control over what a vehicle is doing with one. That said, I ordered the auto transmission for my new JKUR. While I love the manual, when traffic gets to be stop and go it can be a pain. Also, my wife never took me up on my offer to teach her how to drive the mt. Finally, I just moved to an area that gets pretty cold in the winter and I wanted the remote start.

I never got around to wheeling my JK, and always assumed that the mt was the way to go for it. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that so many people think the at is better (or at least as good) because I'm definitely wheeling this one.
04-10-2012 01:56 PM
mjrkjm
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Originally Posted by JKatfish View Post
Since you intend for mostly road use, same as me, get the auto. When I drove the Auto after driving the manual for a test drive around the city, the Manual just seemed like a lot of work, finicky clutch, long throws, but good exercise since I was moving all over the place. Then with the auto, it seemed more relaxed and I could really enjoy the ride, esp with the manual shift mode, which seems to work as well as the manual. The shift is about 1/2 inch, compared to about 6 or more inches throw on the manual. But its still your Jeep which you'll have to live with. Just mho.
Thanks. This is really the opinion I was looking for. But I think I need to try the manual transmission before I can make my decision...
04-10-2012 01:51 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by jk'n

I have done this on the steepest up hill I could find and then stood on the brake. She kept moving along as if I wasn't standing on the brake. The other day I was pulling some 20 year old bushes out by the roots from the front of my house. Forgot I had the ebrake on and came up on the clutch in 4low. It overcame the brake and pulled the bush out without having to go for the gas. How is that for anti-stall?
Anti stall for the win
04-10-2012 12:53 PM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
That's not necessary on a JK. JK's have an anti stall feature. If you are in 4L and 1st gear, you can stand on the brake. The computer will control the idle.
I have done this on the steepest up hill I could find and then stood on the brake. She kept moving along as if I wasn't standing on the brake. The other day I was pulling some 20 year old bushes out by the roots from the front of my house. Forgot I had the ebrake on and came up on the clutch in 4low. It overcame the brake and pulled the bush out without having to go for the gas. How is that for anti-stall?
04-10-2012 11:45 AM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
^^ The manual transmission is completely automatic for me. If you are used to driving the standard, and it isn't a bother for you, then get the mt. I don't quite get the exercise thing. Maybe I'm just buff or manly but the stick is something that I have gotten so used to that it is not even a concern in any kind of driving even city. If you can see yourself being that comfortable in a manual then you might consider that type of transmission. Auto is a choice though. Tough choice for some.
04-10-2012 11:43 AM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by Smyln View Post
Definitely want a hand throttle for extreme rock crawling. I have had toany times One foot on clutch and one foot on brake while giving it gas. In auto I don't have that problem. Like I said I have rock crawled in both and prefer auto for rock krawling.
That's not necessary on a JK. JK's have an anti stall feature. If you are in 4L and 1st gear, you can stand on the brake. The computer will control the idle.
04-10-2012 11:36 AM
jk'n ^^
04-10-2012 11:25 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by jk'n
^^ The manual transmission is completely automatic for me. If you are used to driving the standard, and it isn't a bother for you, then get the mt. I don't quite get the exercise thing. Maybe I'm just buff or manly but the stick is something that I have gotten so used to that it is not even a concern in any kind of driving even city. If you can see yourself being that comfortable in a manual then you might consider that type of transmission. Auto is a choice though. Tough choice for some.
^^ there he is
04-10-2012 11:14 AM
jk'n ^^ The manual transmission is completely automatic for me. If you are used to driving the standard, and it isn't a bother for you, then get the mt. I don't quite get the exercise thing. Maybe I'm just buff or manly but the stick is something that I have gotten so used to that it is not even a concern in any kind of driving even city. If you can see yourself being that comfortable in a manual then you might consider that type of transmission. Auto is a choice though. Tough choice for some.
04-10-2012 11:09 AM
JKatfish
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Originally Posted by mjrkjm View Post
thanks everyone. this is really a tough decision. i think i need to test drive the MT but no dealers have one available around here.

i really want the truck asap as the weather is getting nice. but i think i will miss the MT.
Since you intend for mostly road use, same as me, get the auto. When I drove the Auto after driving the manual for a test drive around the city, the Manual just seemed like a lot of work, finicky clutch, long throws, but good exercise since I was moving all over the place. Then with the auto, it seemed more relaxed and I could really enjoy the ride, esp with the manual shift mode, which seems to work as well as the manual. The shift is about 1/2 inch, compared to about 6 or more inches throw on the manual. But its still your Jeep which you'll have to live with. Just mho.
04-10-2012 09:30 AM
Thracks
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Originally Posted by JKatfish View Post
Since youre mainly road driving, go for the auto. Its quick enough and probably quicker than the mt
Quite the opposite, actually.

The 6-speed manual is actually quicker than the 5-speed auto..

The 2012 6-speed 2-door will do 0-60 in ~6.7 seconds, which is pretty quick for a 2 ton box. The auto is over 7 seconds.
04-10-2012 09:02 AM
dirtybiketrash I was leaning toward ordering the manual, anyways, but the factor that definitely locked it up for me was the fact that I have two boys (that are growing inches by the minute), and I will be teaching them how to drive in a couple of years. They will learn how to drive a manual before they get to touch an automatic, I decided.
04-10-2012 07:50 AM
speeddrive1
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Originally Posted by Smyln View Post
I had manual Rubi and currently own an auto Rubi. On extreme up or down you just let clutch out and jeep will crawl. In auto I can shift to first and it does the same thing. One thing about manual. Definitely want a hand throttle for extreme rock crawling. I have had toany times One foot on clutch and one foot on brake while giving it gas. In auto I don't have that problem. Like I said I have rock crawled in both and prefer auto for rock krawling.
Would a hand throttle work in a 2012 being that isn't it a drive by wire design?
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