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01-16-2012 10:16 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by solman View Post
Funny you should say that. The same thing happened to me.
I've read a few write-ups on tranny swaps and never saw that mentioned.
01-16-2012 09:15 AM
solman
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Roberto View Post
I was able to bring the price down to $500 with all the part listed above. Is that a fair price? I haven't see that many 32rh swap on sell so I don't know if I should pull the trigger and pick it up tomorrow
Thats a good price. I got all of mine for $550 but that was from a friend. I was looking at over $1000 to piece everything together myself.
01-16-2012 09:13 AM
solman
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Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes View Post
Roughly 200ish. They are pretty scarce used, so you had to depend on the online refurbishment places or so far that's all we've been able to find.

Also, when you disconnect the clutch safety switch, look around under there and find the rest of the harness it plugs into and plug it in. That will save you from worrying why it's not starting.
Funny you should say that. The same thing happened to me.
01-14-2012 09:20 PM
TJ.Roberto
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Roberto View Post
I found a guy selling all this parts from a 98 Sahara

-tranny
-computer (ECM)
-shifter Cables
-pedal
-tranny coolant lines

-Torque converter
-tranny mount bracket

He is selling me everything for $550, would this be a good deals since I still need to look for the

-flex plate (similar to a flywheel)
-shifter/bezel
-Shifter handle

My jeep is a 97 Sahara so im hopping I can still use the ECM from the 98 Sahara. What do you guys think?

I was able to bring the price down to $500 with all the part listed above. Is that a fair price? I haven't see that many 32rh swap on sell so I don't know if I should pull the trigger and pick it up tomorrow
01-14-2012 11:00 AM
KrzyMoke
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post

Some just don't get the benefits to an automatic transmission on extreme level trails and never will... and very likely because they simply don't do extreme level trails. I've been driving manual transmissions since the 60's but for rock crawling and other extreme-level trails, give me an automatic any day.
How Tru, How Tru Jerry,

In my Big Bronco, peeps are like "How did you get that big POS up here?" My AOD was a life saver so many times. Unfortunately my 03 Rubi has a manual but since I only have a 2.5" Skyjacker for now. It will suffice until I get my 5.5" RE LA.
01-14-2012 10:26 AM
TJ.Roberto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes View Post
Roughly 200ish. They are pretty scarce used, so you had to depend on the online refurbishment places or so far that's all we've been able to find.

Also, when you disconnect the clutch safety switch, look around under there and find the rest of the harness it plugs into and plug it in. That will save you from worrying why it's not starting.

I found a guy selling all this parts from a 98 Sahara

-tranny
-computer (ECM)
-shifter Cables
-pedal
-tranny coolant lines

-Torque converter
-Engine/trans backing plate
-tranny mount bracket

He is selling me everything for $550, would this be a good deals since I still need to look for the

-flex plate (similar to a flywheel)
-shifter/bezel
-Shifter handle

My jeep is a 97 Sahara so im hopping I can still use the ECM from the 98 Sahara. What do you guys think?
01-14-2012 09:28 AM
Black Magic Brakes
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ.Roberto View Post
How much are the PCM(ECM) computers running for?
Roughly 200ish. They are pretty scarce used, so you had to depend on the online refurbishment places or so far that's all we've been able to find.

Also, when you disconnect the clutch safety switch, look around under there and find the rest of the harness it plugs into and plug it in. That will save you from worrying why it's not starting.
01-13-2012 11:09 PM
TJ.Roberto How much are the PCM(ECM) computers running for?
01-13-2012 09:50 PM
Black Magic Brakes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post

I stuck with the standard manual style brake pedal since it's a big hassle to convert all that over to use the wider automatic brake pedal. I just welded a piece of 3/4" rod steel between the clutch pedal and brake pedal so I could use my left foot on the clutch pedal as the brake and right foot on the gas to work up obstacles. It worked very well.
What do you consider hassle? Remove the 6 nuts off the studs on the firewall holding the original 2 pedal assembly. Push the brake booster forward to drop the brake down around the booster push rod and then put the single pedal up in there and put 4 of the nuts back onto the booster studs.

2 of the nuts hold the original clutch master, so you take those off anyway which just leaves the 4 on the booster. It me be a bit tedious laying on your back under there, but it not what I consider a big hassle at all.

If you need to remove the brake light switch to transfer it to the new pedal, hold the bracket in your left hand with the switch pointing to the right. Grap the switch in your right hand and rotate the top toward you about 30 degrees and it will unlock the tabs out of the bracket at which point you can pull it out. Reverse to install.
01-13-2012 08:37 PM
TJ.Roberto
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Originally Posted by solman View Post
You should be fine using the 98 PCM in your 97. That's what mine has been running on for the last 5 months
I hope i can run the 98 PCM in my 97 Ill keep you guys posted once i buy everything and start working on my swap
01-13-2012 10:50 AM
JeepCreeper
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Originally Posted by NHWRANGLER View Post
why auto swap? isnt that the wrong way? :P
Depends. I wouldn't mind having an auto for offroading some trails, but I do like driving stick. I guess I just need to buy another Jeep.
01-13-2012 10:48 AM
solman You should be fine using the 98 PCM in your 97. That's what mine has been running on for the last 5 months
01-13-2012 10:38 AM
TJ.Roberto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
You can use a different year PCM (ECM) from the auto tranny but be sure the new auto-style PCM is the same year and engine as what you have.

Be sure to get the special low profile bolts that hold the flex plate in place or the torque converter will rip into them. Getting the right hardware with all the parts will make the job go a lot faster. Make sure the tranny coolant lines are for your model year TJ too, they aren't all the same.

You will need to change the front driveshaft to the skinnier diameter automatic style driveshaft. The manual transmission front driveshaft's diameter is too big to clear the automatic's wide pan area.

You'll also need the automatic style transmission mount which is completely different from the one holding the manual transmission.

I stuck with the standard manual style brake pedal since it's a big hassle to convert all that over to use the wider automatic brake pedal. I just welded a piece of 3/4" rod steel between the clutch pedal and brake pedal so I could use my left foot on the clutch pedal as the brake and right foot on the gas to work up obstacles. It worked very well.

the 32rh is coming out of a 98 Sahara, and I currently have a 97 Sahara. so I have to have to get a PCM (ECM) from a 97 to match my exiting stock 97 engine?

I remember reading some where that the coolant lines run different acording to the year of the auto tranny. Would I be running into a problem with this?
01-13-2012 08:37 AM
solman Jerry pretty much covered it. I posted a list on the 1st page you can check out. As for the PCM being the same year I am not 100% sure what will and will not work. My jeep is a 1997 but I am running 1998 PCM with no trouble.
01-13-2012 02:16 AM
Jerry Bransford You can use a different year PCM (ECM) from the auto tranny but be sure the new auto-style PCM is the same year and engine as what you have.

Be sure to get the special low profile bolts that hold the flex plate in place or the torque converter will rip into them. Getting the right hardware with all the parts will make the job go a lot faster. Make sure the tranny coolant lines are for your model year TJ too, they aren't all the same.

You will need to change the front driveshaft to the skinnier diameter automatic style driveshaft. The manual transmission front driveshaft's diameter is too big to clear the automatic's wide pan area.

You'll also need the automatic style transmission mount which is completely different from the one holding the manual transmission.

I stuck with the standard manual style brake pedal since it's a big hassle to convert all that over to use the wider automatic brake pedal. I just welded a piece of 3/4" rod steel between the clutch pedal and brake pedal so I could use my left foot on the clutch pedal as the brake and right foot on the gas to work up obstacles. It worked very well.
01-13-2012 02:06 AM
TJ.Roberto Solman hos is your 32rh tranny doing? I am about to do the same swap and waned to ask you is this is all that I need?

* -tranny
-computer (ECM) from the auto JEEP
-SHIFTER Cables
-pedal
-shifter/bezel
-tranny coolant lines

-Torque converter
-Engine/trans backing plate
- flex plate (similar to a flywheel)
-tranny mount bracket and mount

can I use the computer (ECM) from a different year than the auto tranny?
01-02-2012 01:29 AM
solman I sold my full doors last year
01-02-2012 01:15 AM
Pontiackid87 I know you wana trade me those full doors for my half doors.... we have the same color...
01-02-2012 01:14 AM
solman For reference I'm running 35s with 4.10s and I'm happy with that.
01-02-2012 01:13 AM
s3nt3nc3d I've been seriously considering taking on this project...I like having a 5 speed, but at the same time, I really miss having an automatic especially when I'm traveling. How would my Jeep perform with 33" tires, 3.73 gearing, and the 32RH tranny?

I've got the NV3550 currently...5th gear is basically useless unless I'm running 65+ on the interstate...but I can't afford a regear currently. It's in the plans though...along with installing truetracs or e-lockers.
12-31-2011 10:47 PM
solman Haha, gotcha
12-31-2011 06:48 PM
ahmincha Im about to do the conversion and i wanted to have a record of this thread that is easy to find
12-31-2011 05:02 PM
solman What are you bumping?
12-31-2011 04:48 PM
ahmincha bump
08-21-2011 08:20 PM
Jerry Bransford Sweet, really glad your conversion went so well! Nice job!!!!
08-21-2011 07:51 PM
solman Update, I have about 300 miles on the auto tranny swap now and I love it. I still need to swap out my front axle before I can go wheeling though. I'm planning on going to Rausch creek next month so I will put up some pics and maybe a video of the new setup in action.
08-08-2011 03:19 PM
1c62nv Solman, I sent you a pm
08-08-2011 02:57 AM
ratherbedirty i was gonna rip you apart for swapping your stick for an auto, but i live in MI, so rock crawling isnt so prevelant here. truth be told: if i ever want a serious climbing rig, it will have an automatic trans. hope it works well for ya.
08-08-2011 12:09 AM
Turtles TJ Gratz man. glad its working out for you
08-07-2011 10:22 PM
solman
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
Looks great man, you're definitely quick; I'd love to know when you find time to sleep. Anxious to see it in person.
I have to admit I did not sleep much this week. I was getting off work around 11pm then working in the garage till 3 or 4 each night then getting up with the girls at 7am since Tammy had to work all week. I got home from work Thursday night and just fell asleep . Now to get the front axle done. then I'll tear the rest of the Jeep apart soon enough when I paint it this fall.
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