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08-05-2011 09:01 PM
JIMBOX OK, I was giving a little more condition requirements, because this is the JK/JKU and there has never been a jeep like these--ever


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Originally Posted by C.L. View Post
It's just a straw AFTER the 18lb pressure cap on the radiator. The tube from the pressure cap to the reserve bottle does not hold pressure, and only pulls very slight vacuum when the radiator cools and sucks a bit of fluid back in. Look at it this way, if the system was pressurized through that tube, you'd get a face full of coolant if you popped the cap off the reserve bottle when the engine was warm. I promise you that is not the case.
JIMBO
08-05-2011 08:55 PM
C.L.
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post


If it's not under pressure--how does the overflo get fluid to the bottle and if it's not sealed--how does a vacuum exist ?????

JIMBO
It's just a straw AFTER the 18lb pressure cap on the radiator. The tube from the pressure cap to the reserve bottle does not hold pressure, and only pulls very slight vacuum when the radiator cools and sucks a bit of fluid back in. Look at it this way, if the system was pressurized through that tube, you'd get a face full of coolant if you popped the cap off the reserve bottle when the engine was warm. I promise you that is not the case.
08-05-2011 08:31 PM
1995yj318 Drill it and tap it for a nipple my truck is done that was after i broke the nipple trying to get the hose off to remove the radiator to swap cams it still functions fine.
08-05-2011 02:43 PM
JIMBOX Thats an interesting comment-


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Originally Posted by goatman View Post
You can tap in an npt fitting into the radiator without worry. The overflow system isn't under pressure so it only has to handle the flow of coolant into the overflow bottle and a slight vacuum to pull it back into the rad. As long as it doesn't seep over time, it will be fine.
If it's not under pressure--how does the overflo get fluid to the bottle and if it's not sealed--how does a vacuum exist ?????

JIMBO
08-05-2011 02:35 PM
goatman You can tap in an npt fitting into the radiator without worry. The overflow system isn't under pressure so it only has to handle the flow of coolant into the overflow bottle and a slight vacuum to pull it back into the rad. As long as it doesn't seep over time, it will be fine.
08-05-2011 01:47 PM
JIMBOX Well, it looks inviting. but--


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Originally Posted by SubSnake View Post
Would any of you have opinions on this?

National Radiator | 1-800-777-RADS
If you were very careful to keep contaminants outta the rad fluid, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than a dealer new radiator-

It just has to hold pressue , with the reserve bottle filled up to the full line !!

I'd email them with a pic of your rad damage and get their opinion onit !!

JIMBO
08-05-2011 01:35 PM
SubSnake Would any of you have opinions on this?

National Radiator | 1-800-777-RADS
08-04-2011 09:51 PM
JIMBOX You may have to go thru the dealer, check there prices and if you have any warranty coverage---I haven't heard of anybody having to replace the Rad anyway--


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Originally Posted by SubSnake View Post
I'd like to try to tap/thread a new hole. I found this site, too.

I'm just worried about how long that'd hold up.

Headlight, fluid container, and filter box will all get replaced.




If worst comes to worst, I'll be replacing my entire radiator. Is there a specific brand you guys would recommend?
I'll bet it's a job though--good luck

JIMBO
08-04-2011 09:25 PM
SubSnake
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Originally Posted by moscoeb View Post
I wonder if that nipple can be tapped out and another threaded in? It looks like it threads into the radiator.
Air box and power steering tank, when your ready, davey's jeeps or junk yard.
I'd like to try to tap/thread a new hole. I found this site, too.

I'm just worried about how long that'd hold up.

Headlight, fluid container, and filter box will all get replaced.


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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Now thats hard to figure, how the radiator fluid overflow bottle tubing --broke--

That nipplehose goes across the top of the rad to the overflow bottle and is part of the SEALED COOLANT system--

I don't know how you would fix that and still keep any debris outta the coolant fluid --

Sorry-loooks pretty severe !!

JIMBO
If worst comes to worst, I'll be replacing my entire radiator. Is there a specific brand you guys would recommend?
08-04-2011 08:07 PM
JIMBOX Now thats hard to figure, how the radiator fluid overflow bottle tubing --broke--

That nipplehose goes across the top of the rad to the overflow bottle and is part of the SEALED COOLANT system--

I don't know how you would fix that and still keep any debris outta the coolant fluid --

Sorry-loooks pretty severe !!

JIMBO
08-04-2011 07:47 PM
moscoeb I wonder if that nipple can be tapped out and another threaded in? It looks like it threads into the radiator.
Air box and power steering tank, when your ready, davey's jeeps or junk yard.
08-04-2011 07:42 PM
kjeeper10 As for the box, I would just throw some duct tape over the split (it's small enough) to keep dirt out until it's replaced
08-04-2011 07:19 PM
SubSnake
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
As long as the airbox is intact I would not worry about that, you don't want dirt and dust not being filtered into your engine. As
far as you other problem-got pics?
There is a small crack in the side of the air filter. I'll have a picture below.


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Originally Posted by joe002 View Post
Hi, welcome.

Were you on the Rubicon Trail, or did your have your Rubicon on a trail? At first I though you had a problem while running the Rubicon Trail!

Anyway, on the air filter box - you want to make sure that the portion of the box from the filter to the engine is sealed so you don’t suck any dirt in through that area - all air should be filtered first. There’s already a hole in the bottom of the box to let water out so a couple more shouldn’t hurt, but I would think you would at least would want to have the box secured by a bolt or two. Did all 4 bolts break off?

Can’t really help on the radiator.

Depending on your situation, another option is to have your insurance fixe it. You did have an accident, and depending on your driving record and deductable the cost to you may not be too bad. Again depending on your driving record your rates could go up, and depending on your insurance company they may not be happy that you take your Jeep out and they may drop you, but it is another potential option.

Have any pics of the issues?
Hahaha. No, it wasn't on the Rubicon trail. Just a small place near here where I live. The bolts on the bottom all broke. I'll have pictures of each problem below.

I'm not necessarily worried about the air filter and Power Steering. Those seem like cheap replacements. It's just that my radiator nipple has snapped that worries me.

Here are some photos of the whole ordeal.

Headlight.


Power Steering.


Broken bolts under air filter.


Air filter box puncture.


Radiator Nipple.

08-04-2011 05:50 PM
joe002 Hi, welcome.

Were you on the Rubicon Trail, or did your have your Rubicon on a trail? At first I though you had a problem while running the Rubicon Trail!

Anyway, on the air filter box - you want to make sure that the portion of the box from the filter to the engine is sealed so you don’t suck any dirt in through that area - all air should be filtered first. There’s already a hole in the bottom of the box to let water out so a couple more shouldn’t hurt, but I would think you would at least would want to have the box secured by a bolt or two. Did all 4 bolts break off?

Can’t really help on the radiator.

Depending on your situation, another option is to have your insurance fixe it. You did have an accident, and depending on your driving record and deductable the cost to you may not be too bad. Again depending on your driving record your rates could go up, and depending on your insurance company they may not be happy that you take your Jeep out and they may drop you, but it is another potential option.

Have any pics of the issues?
08-04-2011 05:38 PM
kjeeper10 As long as the airbox is intact I would not worry about that, you don't want dirt and dust not being filtered into your engine. As
far as you other problem-got pics?
08-04-2011 05:34 PM
SubSnake
2010 Rubicon Trail Accident Repair

Hey guys. I'm new to Wangler Forum, but not posting in general. Please bear with me if this thread needs moving.

I recently bought my first Jeep. It's a two door 4WD Rubicon and its been a dream this far. I've had no problems at all, that is, until today. I took a friend on a common trail we use for off-roading and it was going great until a seven foot branch ran her right through the front headlight. It was angled up from where I couldn't see in the trail and it made a clean shot straight through the bottom of the light.

Luckily there was no cosmetic damage aside from the light, which I was happy about. To my dismay, I spotted a steady stream of red fluid pouring from under the Jeep. It looked like it was literally impaled and bleeding from underneath. I looked inside and saw that my Power Steering fluid chamber had been busted. The air filter box had also been knocked loose from its connections underneath and the radiator nipple to the overflow tank had been snapped off.

I plan on buying a new light and replacing the Power Steering fluid chamber, but I have a few questions about the air filter box and radiator.

First, is the air filter box okay where it's at even with the snapped connections? It just sits there and somewhat moves in its spot but still seems to do its job.
Second, I've read about DIY radiator nipple fixes (drill/tap, hose barb), but will this fix be reliable? I'm not very excited over having to replace the entire radiator over a snapped nipple, but what must be done must be done.

Thanks for any and all support. I appreciate any advice you guys can give a newcomer like me.

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