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08-12-2011 07:30 AM
SRPs 2012
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
Hmmmm.....the OP made one post in this thread and then two days have passed and no other words from him/her. I'm wondering if he/she was just stirring up the pot or if they really wanted some information.
No, if you are referring to me, I was seeking information! I have had manual vehicles before, but it has been awhile. Also, they were not 6 speed. I do think the manual will be more fun!!! Just breaking it in and getting use to it is the current task. I have enoyed and appreciate all the comments. Learning alot!
08-11-2011 11:01 AM
jk'n Hmmmm.....the OP made one post in this thread and then two days have passed and no other words from him/her. I'm wondering if he/she was just stirring up the pot or if they really wanted some information.
08-11-2011 01:20 AM
Crow I'm sure it's mentioned in the other referenced threads, but more than twice I've coasted downhill to start with a dead battery in manual 3rd gear. While way back in there, too. But for wiser non forgetful Klutzes this is not an issue! (Playing radio the issue here, my Shortwave/Ham gear plugged in cigarette lighter, DUH).
08-10-2011 01:51 PM
Taegee2 Every car I've owned had been manual. To me it's more fun and you have more control over the gears (except during heavy stop and go traffic...its a PITA). It also gives me an excuse for not answering the cell phone. I also have a Corvette Z06 which has a different clutch and shifter feel (a lot stiffer). Since the Vette doesn't get driven as frequently, I have to adjust between the two when I switch cars...but still prefer the maual.

I probably have to resort to automatics when I get old....but until then.....
08-10-2011 12:50 PM
Rekd I currently have both, although the manual tranny ('85) hasn't run in a couple years. The auto tranny in the '11 is awesome for climbing because of the traction control; mash the peddle down and you'll go right up most hills a manual tranny will go.

I haven't tried it for crawling yet but I imagine it wouldn't be as good as a manual tranny. That little extra control goes a long ways when you're teetering on a rock/log/hummer etc.
08-10-2011 11:14 AM
PTaylor Own both!

Auto's are great for standard travel, I love the auto on the floor. My first was a stick, loved it, but got tired of shifting. Got an auto, loved it, but missed the control over shifting. Got a stick, loved it, but again, there are times when shifting is a pain. got an auto, love it, but still miss that control.



I'll tell you one thing, drinking a "can" is a hell of a lot easier in an auto than a stick!
08-10-2011 11:04 AM
QueueCumber
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Originally Posted by xj-boonie View Post
The thing I can't stand in all the autos I've ever driven is the pause between stepping on the gas and anything happening. It's frustrating when trying to make a turn in traffic or when passing. I don't heel/toe or any if that crap in my XJ, but I do like that it goes when I need it to, no wait fir the tranny to catch up to the engine.
I've never had that happen when shifting a vehicle in manumatic mode. I have had it happen in automatic even in my GT-R, but never when using manumatic modes.
08-10-2011 10:29 AM
xj-boonie The thing I can't stand in all the autos I've ever driven is the pause between stepping on the gas and anything happening. It's frustrating when trying to make a turn in traffic or when passing. I don't heel/toe or any if that crap in my XJ, but I do like that it goes when I need it to, no wait fir the tranny to catch up to the engine.
08-10-2011 07:30 AM
QueueCumber
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Originally Posted by xj-boonie View Post
An auto with the +/- to shift into a specific gear is in no way similar to a manual transmission. It is still a slow shifting, do what it wants thing. I'm just saying...
Indeed, but it is good enough for the situations where I would ever need to use manual, such as particular low speed off-road situations. Likewise, the automatic will make my life more enjoyable for regular driving, especially in traffic and city driving with all of the stop and go. I get tired of using the clutch off and on in those situations for long stretches.

This isn't a supercar; I don't need it to up rev or down rev when shifting up or down in order to get the best lap times at the track. My sportscar does these things. The manumatic does enough for the situations in which I would want to shift the Jeep into a lower gear at slow speeds. The manumatic gives me all the control that I need over the gears. I don't need to drive a Jeep like a racecar in manual (heel to toe shift, ride the clutch, etc.) in any situations in which I would use it. Likewise, I gain a more comfortable drive for myself in 90% of my driving life.
08-10-2011 02:14 AM
xj-boonie
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Originally Posted by QueueCumber
Automatic if it is a 2012. Though I guess I would still get auto even on other models. I've had so many clutch systems over the years in all kinds of vehicles; I will never go back again...

On the 2012 models with the new engines I can still choose to put the car into manual by using the column shifter to choose the gears (On older models this is not an option though...). Using this setup I can manually choose the gear that the car is in without having to constantly push an antiquated clutch system in with my foot. I get the best of both worlds with that setup as far as I am concerned...

An auto with the +/- to shift into a specific gear is in no way similar to a manual transmission. It is still a slow shifting, do what it wants thing. I'm just saying...
08-09-2011 11:46 PM
off a cough On TJ Forums that I used to visit, this was the 2nd most posted question, behind only "how do I turn off my dome lights when the doors are off?"

FWIW I went from the NV3550 in the TJ Rubi (5spd manual) to the W5A580 (5spd auto) in a 4dr JK Rubi. I'll miss the manual transmission a bit, but the new auto is a smooth and precise enough gear box that I'll cope with it. I wouldn't get the previous 4spd auto in the JK based on reputation.
08-09-2011 11:11 PM
jk wrangler fan There's an old saying that goes something along the lines of "if you have to ask, you want an auto".
08-09-2011 10:51 PM
ruggedCityJeep Tastes great/Less filling.....

Every time an automatic changes gears, our National Debt increases by one billion.
08-09-2011 10:48 PM
DeanLinAZ As the old Volkswagen Beetle ads used to say back in the 60's & 70's--
"After driving a Volkswagen a couple of blocks, shifting becomes automatic".

I've had and have both, they both work, get the one you like best.
08-09-2011 10:38 PM
QueueCumber
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Are you saying that there are buttons on the steering wheels--




For the auto shifting gears 1 thru 4--then O/D--along with the manual gearshift lever ????

JIMBO
I meant the shifter in between the two seats (manumatic shifter...).
08-09-2011 10:37 PM
QueueCumber
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Originally Posted by JeeperJake View Post
re: "I can still choose to put the car into manual by using the column shifter to choose the gears (On older models this is not an option though...)."

don't understand this comment.....even on an antique 08 JK I can choose my gear with the shift stick, or leave it in auto.
Ah. I didn't know that you could do it on older models (the last time I had a Jeep Wrangler it was a manual in the 80s...). I guess I would choose auto no matter what then...
08-09-2011 10:24 PM
Eaglektd manual all the way, automatics get too hot and burst into flames
then you don't have a jeep at all
08-09-2011 09:58 PM
JIMBOX --no more worries--


Quote:
Originally Posted by ESP123 View Post
I know your a fan of my work.
-JIMBO
08-09-2011 09:55 PM
ESP
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Thanx ESP--




You won't have to worry about me asking anymore questions, EVER from you-

You're way to knowledgeable for the likes of me !!

-JIMBO
I know your a fan of my work.
08-09-2011 09:41 PM
JIMBOX Wait, I don't really care about this 2012 jeep, so just forget anything I asked aboutit--

No more querys about the new jeep--

Color me gone !!(about new jeep)

--JIMBO
08-09-2011 09:37 PM
JIMBOX Well, he mentioned COLUMN SHIFTER to choose gears and the COLUMN is the STEERING column-


Quote:
Originally Posted by JeeperJake View Post
Are you (smiley) saying that you understand exactly what he's saying ??....are you talking to ME????

if so....maybe not
if not....still unsure of the issue.....

shift buttons on steering wheel? Like the 1957 Torque Flight Dodge????

or what?
And he said, we didn't have that option on older models--

Suptoyou

JIMBO
08-09-2011 09:32 PM
JIMBOX Thanx ESP--


You won't have to worry about me asking anymore questions, EVER from you-

You're way to knowledgeable for the likes of me !!

-JIMBO
08-09-2011 09:32 PM
JeeperJake Are you (smiley) saying that you understand exactly what he's saying ??....are you talking to ME????

if so....maybe not
if not....still unsure of the issue.....

shift buttons on steering wheel? Like the 1957 Torque Flight Dodge????

or what?
08-09-2011 09:27 PM
ESP
Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Are you (smiley) saying that you understand exactly what he's saying??
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f19/man...ic-105052.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/man...on-106663.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...to-105835.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aut...-me-98667.html
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aut...ual-78127.html

08-09-2011 09:17 PM
ORNGCR8 A puppy just died.
08-09-2011 09:14 PM
JIMBOX Are you (smiley) saying that you understand exactly what he's saying ??


Quote:
Originally Posted by ESP123 View Post
--JIMBO
08-09-2011 09:09 PM
ESP
08-09-2011 08:43 PM
JIMBOX Are you saying that there are buttons on the steering wheels--


Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber View Post
Automatic if it is a 2012. Though I guess I would still get auto even on other models. I've had so many clutch systems over the years in all kinds of vehicles; I will never go back again...

On the 2012 models with the new engines I can still choose to put the car into manual by using the column shifter to choose the gears (On older models this is not an option though...). Using this setup I can manually choose the gear that the car is in without having to constantly push an antiquated clutch system in with my foot. I get the best of both worlds with that setup as far as I am concerned...

For the auto shifting gears 1 thru 4--then O/D--along with the manual gearshift lever ????

JIMBO
08-09-2011 08:35 PM
JeeperJake re: "I can still choose to put the car into manual by using the column shifter to choose the gears (On older models this is not an option though...)."

don't understand this comment.....even on an antique 08 JK I can choose my gear with the shift stick, or leave it in auto.
08-09-2011 07:23 PM
jk'n Since you already have purchased a standard and you are wondering how long it takes to get used to it, I'll start there. I went from an automatic caravan....cause they didn't have it in standard....that I drove for seven long years back to a standard in my jeep. It took me a year and a half to get totally back into a standard. I shift now like I never went to automatic. I also think it is easier to coordinate the feet on my Rubicon with 4.1 gears than it was on my Sahara with 3.73. I drove the Sahara for 8 months before Chrysler bought it back from me. The extra torque off of the stop makes things a little easier. All in all, I will never go back to an automatic unless something happens to one of my legs. But I don't drive standard for a living so I like driving one to get from point A to point B....especially through the woods!
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