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|JeepinNW||edit: replied to wrong thread.|
|09-10-2011 05:32 PM|
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|09-09-2011 10:37 PM|
|JeffC||This thread is coming alive. Have had my '11 JKU-R for 600 miles and have no examples of it being under powered. My only complaint is my perma-grin|
|09-09-2011 04:03 PM|
You're just shifting at too low of an RPM. Unless you're specifically looking to do the "Sunday driver" thing, try shifting at 3k RPM or higher as a matter of routine. Use 5th or 4th on the highway instead of 6th. If you're merging into traffic or need really fast acceleration, let it spool out to 4k+.
The 3.8 is actually quite quick! Congrats.
|09-09-2011 03:53 PM|
I have been waiting since about May to buy a new Jeep. I fully intended on buying a 2012. I really wanted the increased HP and torque. I assumed the mpg would go up too, but 1mpg for an unlimited is basically nothing.
A local dealer got in a 2012 Rubicon Unlimited a few weeks ago. I went out and drove an '11 and a '12 back to back. During my short test drive I did not notice a seat of the pants difference between the two. So I saved some money and bought an '11 for $1K under invoice. Can you say money for toys?
|09-09-2011 10:23 AM|
|MR0909||Yea I love it. The Interior is basically the same just leather heated seats. I'll post a picture.|
|09-08-2011 12:10 PM|
|09-08-2011 06:10 AM|
|MR0909||Well since I've started this post just wanted to let everyone know I went with the 2011 70th anniversary edition, and LOVE IT!!!! It's a manual 6 speed, little sluggish but it's a jeep and it's all mine!!! Thanks again for all your help.|
|09-02-2011 06:33 AM|
My vote, go for the '11 and save the money!
|09-02-2011 01:11 AM|
I hope this doesn't violate any forum tenets - I have no business interest in them, but I do believe that anyone looking for a good deal on a 2011 might want to look on-line at Huntington Beach Chrysler Jeep's inventory. They have some very sweet deals on remaining 2011's - I bought my Sahara from them, and a few months prior, a Cherokee, after finding out that no one else in the West could come down as low as they would...
If you live too far away to work a deal with them (they do have people fly in from elsewhere in the country), you could at least use their pricing in your negotiations with a local dealer. If you want a specific contact there, PM me and I'll tell you what I know...
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|09-01-2011 07:39 PM|
|j0nx||My local dealer has the EXACT sahara unlimited in the color and options that I would order one for out the door for $30081. That's a huge deal and a great savings over a '12. Man I'm tempted but I know I would be jealous of that new motor. If I could somehow drive both on my daily commute to see how they drove compared to each other. That kind of savings will more than make up for any gas savings over the course of the loan though. I am just not sure I want to take on a car loan now though but this sahara is the EXACT vehicle I would have ordered in every way.|
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|09-01-2011 11:58 AM|
I couldn't pass up the cost savings on the '11 + the 0% financing. I got a Green Pearl 2011 JKU Sahara for $30K and love it. I would have spent $3 to $4k more for the 2012. Althought the '12 had more get up and go, in my mind it didn't justify spending the extra dough. To each their own though. I think no matter what you get, you'll enjoy the crap out of it. I am!!!
|09-01-2011 11:55 AM|
|ericmartin152||I just got a 2011 2 door Rubicon with both tops, NAV, automatic, tow package, and Sirius for 30k!|
|09-01-2011 10:03 AM|
|j0nx||I gotta say the prices on the 11's right now are very tempting. I was only holding out for a '12 because of the hope of better fuel mileage which really isn't there. I can get a pretty well loaded '11 JKU Sahara out the door for less than $30k whereas it would be $33.3k out the door for the '12. Very tempting. I would of course have to drive both and see if I could deal with the power issues with the '11.|
|08-29-2011 07:34 AM|
|Bronsonbull||So what did the OP pick?|
|08-29-2011 05:27 AM|
In a diesel engine I'd say cast iron is the only way to go. I don't see any downside to the gas powered aluminum designed engine of today. The materials used, and gaskets have been perfected, early on they had problems, for sure!
As far as off road vehicles go, and the long haul. I often wonder why they couldn't have spent more time and money making the perfect I-6. High torque low rpm seems like a good idea to me, and a deep stroke, big bore I-6 makes plenty of power. I guess size, weight, and the EPA took their toll. Still I believe the Pentastar is one of the best engines to come in a long time, and we are going to hear lots of good things about it. I just hope they don't kill it with Direct Injection.
|08-28-2011 08:02 PM|
Iron is much simpler to cast. It's easier to work with and it's inherent strength and integrity is superior to aluminum. Downside? It's heavy.
Many engines have employed both materials in their design. For example cast-iron heads with an aluminum block. However the differences in expansion from heat in the two materials can lead to engine issues later on. Good thing the 2012 Wrangler employs an all-aluminum engine so that expansion and contraction remains constant throughout the engine.
I'm sure the lifespan of the two engines types will be comparable. All I was pointing out was that when it comes an off-road vehicle we need something that will be there for the long-haul. Especially given that Wranglers get their most aggressive usage in their later years.
|08-28-2011 12:10 PM|
|08-28-2011 11:26 AM|
These last few posts about Tan and Mango exactly describe my wife's and my decision for a 2011 JKU. I wanted a Rubicon for the big $$ savings off invoice and 0% while my wife was making the decision between Tan and Mango (both discontinued). So a 2011 was an easy decision .
We go to the last of many dealers and there were the Tan and Mango 2011 Rubicons parked sidexside and equipped exactly the same. The wife looks to the side and says "I want that one"....and we brought home the Deep Cherry
|08-28-2011 11:20 AM|
|panthermark||^Mango Tango and Sahara Tan are...no..."were"....the two best colors in the line-up IMO. I'm looking for a 2012.....but none of the current colors really speak to me....especially the way Mango Tango did.|
|08-28-2011 11:09 AM|
LOL I liked the Tan as well. I looked for a couple- but they were all 3.21, or automatics.
I wanted a 6sp, soft top, with air and 3.73. The Mango Tango was always a "joke" between my wife and I- I have a burnt orange (Aztec Orange Pearl) motorcycle, and her '10 Patriot we chose was the Sunset Orange Pearl, so when we'd swing by the dealership for a quick oil change this past winter, we saw the Mango Tango- and she said "you should get one of those!" Everytime we passed one, it was "there's mine!"
I had just bought the Patriot, and didn't figure on getting another new ride.
Then Wrangler fever hit me like a ton of bricks- so I looked on the Internet, and lo and behold a MT equipped precisely how I wanted it. Fate? You decide!
|08-28-2011 10:58 AM|
I guess we both just have good taste.
The other color I really like is Sahara Tan and I don't believe it's available in 2012 either.
The new engine and 5 speed auto would probably be nice to have; but price and color were more important to me.
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