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08-31-2011 09:11 PM
roxbury29
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranjr View Post
I was waiting for a cop to appear over the hill....
me too... / but i was pretty sure there would not be one at that time
08-31-2011 09:05 PM
ranjr
Quote:
Originally Posted by roxbury29
take a look at the video
I was waiting for a cop to appear over the hill....
08-31-2011 08:18 PM
roxbury29 I finally had a chance to test drive a 2012 Sport today, compared to my 2011.
There is much improved performance, not sluggish at all! before you know it you will be going 60+mph..... highly unlikely I will trade up just for that, but it did feel very nice driving it. fun to drive...
Cannot confirm gas mileage improvement, but I am sure it has increased.

take a look at the video
Auto/with 3.73 gears

2011 08 31 15 06 18 484 - YouTube
08-21-2011 10:26 PM
NEO Jeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber View Post
Thanks! I am feeling pretty weak after seeing that 6.7 second 0-60 MPH time made by Motor Trend...

I'm guessing that it is a combination of things; one, my lack of experience launching vehicles; two, they used the lighter sport, which also uses different tires (different radius, unsprung-weight, traction); three, they used manual and I used automatic. However, they would have the Sport's gear ratio on their test vehicle while I am using the 4.10 on mine.

I wonder if I can take some time off of my numbers by using the manumatic...

NM, I knew I was losing a modicum of power and control by going with automatic; it is still the best choice for how I will be using the vehicle. I definitely didn't buy it to get top times at the drag strip.
As fresh meat here, old Jeep there...

I was not wrong...
08-21-2011 09:24 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Motor Trend got a 6.7 second 0-60 MPH time on the 2012 Sport manual.

No need for me to post that file anymore... LOL!
Oh -- just the fact is was posted previous?
08-21-2011 09:22 PM
QueueCumber
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
What did I miss?
Motor Trend got a 6.7 second 0-60 MPH time on the 2012 Sport manual.

No need for me to post that file anymore... LOL!
08-21-2011 09:22 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Thanks! I am feeling pretty weak after seeing that 6.7 0-60 time made by Motor Trend...

I'm guessing that it is a combination of things; one, my lack of experience launching vehicles; two, they used the lighter sport, which also uses different tires (different radius, unsprung-weight, traction); three, they used manual and I used automatic. However, they would have the Sport's gear ratio on their test vehicle.

I wonder if I can take some time off of my numbers by using the manumatic...

NM, I knew I was losing a modicum of power and control by going with automatic; it is still the best choice for how I will be using the vehicle. I definitely didn't buy it to get top times at the drag strip.
What did I miss?
08-21-2011 09:18 PM
Sf_Kilo
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Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill View Post

You da' man, Queue.
x2
08-21-2011 09:18 PM
QueueCumber
Quote:
Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill View Post
Can't help but notice that all of the 2012 reviews now coming out, make a big deal over the 0-60 time as a metric of how much of an improvement the Pentastar is over past Jeep power plants.

Also, QueueCumbers 0-60 times appear quite accurate compared with the professional reviewers times. And, his assertion is certainly vindicated by the pros, that 0-60 time is relevant.

Maybe we'll see some grudging recognition that he was right??

....Probably not, except from me. You da' man, Queue.
Thanks! I am feeling pretty weak after seeing that 6.7 second 0-60 MPH time made by Motor Trend...

I'm guessing that it is a combination of things; one, my lack of experience launching vehicles; two, they used the lighter sport, which also uses different tires (different radius, unsprung-weight, traction); three, they used manual and I used automatic. However, they would have the Sport's gear ratio on their test vehicle while I am using the 4.10 on mine.

I wonder if I can take some time off of my numbers by using the manumatic...

NM, I knew I was losing a modicum of power and control by going with automatic; it is still the best choice for how I will be using the vehicle. I definitely didn't buy it to get top times at the drag strip.
08-21-2011 09:04 PM
Up Hill Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber View Post
6.7 seconds... Impressive. Years of launching different vehicles obviously has its advantages when playing with a new vehicle.

I wonder if the automatic can get close to that time or if you have to slip the clutch to get those kinds of times out of these vehicles.

Can't help but notice that all of the 2012 reviews now coming out, make a big deal over the 0-60 time as a metric of how much of an improvement the Pentastar is over past Jeep power plants.

Also, QueueCumbers 0-60 times appear quite accurate compared with the professional reviewers times. And, his assertion is certainly vindicated by the pros, that 0-60 time is relevant.

Maybe we'll see some grudging recognition that he was right??

....Probably not, except from me. You da' man, Queue.
08-21-2011 08:57 PM
3JKs1H1 That "acoustic engine cover" traps in a lot of heat. I'm sure they tested it desert conditions... Thankfully the ECM isn't underneath it.
08-21-2011 08:50 PM
JIMBOX Heh Heh, that was in '06 and thats when I had my trailer built-


Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Or-- if it is a 2nd vehicle or traded in for another jeep -- that does not apply
The "Sunrise Yellow" of the Xterra, was very close to the "Detonator Yellow" of the jeep, so the trailer still matches, unless ya get some bad lighting !!

JIMBO
08-21-2011 08:41 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMBOX
Rats, and I thought we were friends-

JIMBO
Or-- if it is a 2nd vehicle or traded in for another jeep -- that does not apply
08-21-2011 08:39 PM
JIMBOX Rats, and I thought we were friends-


Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I think, if they chose them over a jeep, regardless-they should be shot and buried . They don't deserve a jeep IMO




JIMBO
08-21-2011 08:37 PM
QueueCumber 6.7 seconds... Impressive. Years of launching different vehicles obviously has its advantages when playing with a new vehicle.

I wonder if the automatic can get close to that time or if you have to slip the clutch to get those kinds of times out of these vehicles.
08-21-2011 08:28 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black2012
Best part of this is that it COMPLETELY closes the door on the xterra and FJ cruiser. I think everyone always preferred the wrangler for its looks and off-road prowess, but I know several people who went with xterras and FJ cruisers due to the massively better powerplant.

Now the jeep has an even BETTER powerplant and is faster than both. And its cheaper. I feel bad for toyota and nissan.
I think, if they chose them over a jeep, regardless-they should be shot and buried . They don't deserve a jeep IMO
08-21-2011 08:20 PM
Black2012 Best part of this is that it COMPLETELY closes the door on the xterra and FJ cruiser. I think everyone always preferred the wrangler for its looks and off-road prowess, but I know several people who went with xterras and FJ cruisers due to the massively better powerplant.

Now the jeep has an even BETTER powerplant and is faster than both. And its cheaper. I feel bad for toyota and nissan.
08-21-2011 08:11 PM
NEO Jeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by intc001 View Post
Yes, we know.
08-21-2011 08:07 PM
intc001
Motor trend. Wrangler 0-60 6's. Wow.

2012 Jeep Wrangler First Test - Motor Trend
08-21-2011 07:58 PM
NEO Jeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by off a cough View Post
More good info about Pentastar development for Wrangler in that Motor Trend article:

We had to create a unique oil pan, an acoustic engine cover to reduce noise and improve appearance, optimized upper intake airflow for torque, and add equal-length downpipes to improve low- and mid-range torque response. Also unique are the front-end accessory drive and high-mounted rear-facing alternator for water fording. Its new pulse-width modulated 600-watt fan is 100-percent variable speed, not just high and low, plus it has a full face condenser for better A/C performance and a standalone transmission oil cooler.
What about that Ram Horn curve to the downpipe???

It couldn't have been done differently to equalize the length?

You could hang your waders and fishing vest from it.
08-21-2011 07:52 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by off a cough
More good info about Pentastar development for Wrangler in that Motor Trend article:

We had to create a unique oil pan, an acoustic engine cover to reduce noise and improve appearance, optimized upper intake airflow for torque, and add equal-length downpipes to improve low- and mid-range torque response. Also unique are the front-end accessory drive and high-mounted rear-facing alternator for water fording. Its new pulse-width modulated 600-watt fan is 100-percent variable speed, not just high and low, plus it has a full face condenser for better A/C performance and a standalone transmission oil cooler.
I wonder what the " optimized upper intake for torque"- how that works
08-21-2011 07:51 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by off a cough
More good info about Pentastar development for Wrangler in that Motor Trend article:

We had to create a unique oil pan, an acoustic engine cover to reduce noise and improve appearance, optimized upper intake airflow for torque, and add equal-length downpipes to improve low- and mid-range torque response. Also unique are the front-end accessory drive and high-mounted rear-facing alternator for water fording. Its new pulse-width modulated 600-watt fan is 100-percent variable speed, not just high and low, plus it has a full face condenser for better A/C performance and a standalone transmission oil cooler.
Bada**
08-21-2011 07:48 PM
off a cough More good info about Pentastar development for Wrangler in that Motor Trend article:

We had to create a unique oil pan, an acoustic engine cover to reduce noise and improve appearance, optimized upper intake airflow for torque, and add equal-length downpipes to improve low- and mid-range torque response. Also unique are the front-end accessory drive and high-mounted rear-facing alternator for water fording. Its new pulse-width modulated 600-watt fan is 100-percent variable speed, not just high and low, plus it has a full face condenser for better A/C performance and a standalone transmission oil cooler.
08-21-2011 07:43 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEO Jeep

As an aside,

The 4.10 axle may not make the Wrangler any quicker to 60 if it requires an additional gearshift (before reaching that point) versus the 3.73.
That's a good point.

My first gear is so low, I have to shift to 2nd quickly and step on it to go.
08-21-2011 07:34 PM
NEO Jeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirrobin4ever View Post
I couldn't seem to find what axle ratio that test was. It said it was a Sport, so it's either the 3.27 or the 3.73.
As an aside,

The 4.10 axle may not make the Wrangler any quicker to 60 if it requires an additional gearshift (before reaching that point) versus the 3.73.
08-21-2011 07:25 PM
NEO Jeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
w/ 4.10's man-o-man
Might take on my bro's civic
"universally considered a dog"...

6.7 seconds?

I TOLD you guys it was quick.

Not bragging, but I LOVE IT!
08-21-2011 05:50 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirrobin4ever

I couldn't seem to find what axle ratio that test was. It said it was a Sport, so it's either the 3.27 or the 3.73.
w/ 4.10's man-o-man
Might take on my bro's civic
08-21-2011 05:48 PM
sirrobin4ever
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black2012 View Post
2012 Jeep Wrangler First Test - Motor Trend

MotorTrend got 6.7 seconds out of the 2 door.

I couldn't seem to find what axle ratio that test was. It said it was a Sport, so it's either the 3.27 or the 3.73.
08-21-2011 05:40 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I was in South Norwalk movie theater parking lot last night and passed a black Rubicon.

Are you in and around Fairfield?
Sorry--I'm in Windsor locks.
was down in Bristol area yesterday.
Not sure where Fairfield is.

Edit: a wee bit off lol

Nope-- wasn't me
08-21-2011 05:37 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black2012
2012 Jeep Wrangler First Test - Motor Trend

MotorTrend got 6.7 seconds out of the 2 door.
I believe it. Always wondered how they do the test. Auto you just Jam on it.
But with a stick, it took some time for me to learn how to drive it in the jeep. Especially with a low first gear. Now I'm able to quickly (smoothy) shift up through the gears staying in it's power band.
Gotta do what I gotta do with my crappy 3.8 right?

6.7 that is very impressive
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