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10-19-2007 02:03 PM
GrnTJ Im pretty sure its his 33's. That added wear on those gears can chew them up pretty fast. Especially if he goes mudding. Thats why mine were shot. Id assume the same problem for him. And yes, that is a stock Dana 35 rear axle you got there. Everyones favorite axle!
10-19-2007 01:48 PM
garcia6767 I’m assuming there stock

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...7/DSC00723.jpg
10-19-2007 03:21 AM
compshooter From looking at the pics, I would agree the spiders are shot. Many people have suggested "fixes", (personally, I would lock it with a Powertrax No-Slip, but that's just me) but no one has addressed what caused the spiders to be damaged in the first place. What would cause the spiders to be chewed up like that? Never seen that before, and if something is causing the gears to get damaged, should that problem get fixed before the replacement solution is installed?
10-18-2007 11:44 PM
GrnTJ If he has the money to do that than I would suggest it. It does come with other things you'll have to pay for though. Having the gears set up on the new Detroit, and new gears if you decide to go that route.
10-18-2007 11:07 PM
dwdrums801
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Originally Posted by marc1kim View Post
Save a little more and go for this:

http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=14400
x100000 thats the way to go ...thats what im doin soon
10-18-2007 09:25 PM
GrnTJ Yea, we can tell you what you got.

Blk, I never said I dissagreed with you. I think it CAN be alright to do though if you drive the right way or build it up correctly. Just because you lock a 35 and drive in the snow doesnt mean your rear end will explode though.
10-18-2007 07:42 PM
garcia6767 to be honest I’m not sure what axle is on...so if i put some pictures up you'll be able to tell right?
10-18-2007 06:29 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by GrnTJ View Post
Some people just dont have the option to put a new axle in because of the things I said:money and fab skill.
That fact is never been in question. Someone mentioned just throwing a locker in there to replace the spiders and I honestly think that's a bad idea to have an auto locker in a D35 that is driven in the snow. Bad things can happen.
10-18-2007 06:18 PM
GrnTJ Some people just dont have the option to put a new axle in because of the things I said:money and fab skill.
10-18-2007 06:12 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by GrnTJ View Post
I understand your logic. I feel the same way for the most part but some people do not want to swap in new axles for limited money or fabrication abilitys. And if they KNOW that they will be staying with a smaller tire than it shouldnt pput enough stress on the r&p to rip them apart. Especially, like I said, if they arent rompin on it.
In my opinion no matter what size tires you have on a D35 it's a danger to your axles life to put either a full locker or auto locker in it if you are driving in the snow or ice. All it will take is one good session of spinning your tires an then catching some dry pavement to snap a clip or bust a shaft. Just not worth it.
10-18-2007 05:25 PM
myanarchy Just saying is all, why not do it once and forget about it even if you do want to step up in tire size in the future
10-18-2007 05:10 PM
GrnTJ I understand your logic. I feel the same way for the most part but some people do not want to swap in new axles for limited money or fabrication abilitys. And if they KNOW that they will be staying with a smaller tire than it shouldnt pput enough stress on the r&p to rip them apart. Especially, like I said, if they arent rompin on it.
10-18-2007 05:02 PM
myanarchy
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Originally Posted by GrnTJ View Post
anarchy, if you read my thread you will find that I am keeping my D35 and locking it as well. Not everyone wants a huge rig man. If built properly the 35 can be plenty tough. Especially for the type of mild/moderate wheelin many people do.
You're correct, but you're still stuck spending money on a marginal axle. You still have a weak ring and pinion no matter how strong you make the axles.
I destroyed mine on 33s twice, neither time were broken axle shafts, both times were destroyed carriers and ring gears.
Why not just do it once and build something that you won't have to worry about, instead of building something marginal that will be maxed out with no more chance of improvement?

Just curious is all
10-18-2007 04:52 PM
GrnTJ anarchy, if you read my thread you will find that I am keeping my D35 and locking it as well. Not everyone wants a huge rig man. If built properly the 35 can be plenty tough. Especially for the type of mild/moderate wheelin many people do.
10-18-2007 12:39 PM
myanarchy
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Originally Posted by Vector6 View Post
an aussie will replace the spider gears for $229. and about 2 hours of your time
2 hours to put in, 45 minutes to take out once the rear end blows to pieces.
You can't polish a turd man
10-18-2007 11:58 AM
lost
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an aussie will replace the spider gears for $229. and about 2 hours of your time
I wouldnt recommend a aussie or lockrite for a rear axle if its going to be mostly street driven.
10-18-2007 11:15 AM
Vector6 an aussie will replace the spider gears for $229. and about 2 hours of your time
10-18-2007 12:20 AM
GrnTJ No effect since they are in the rear. They are always turning anyway.
10-17-2007 10:27 PM
garcia6767 Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all your suggestions and will make good use of them. One more question I promise…if not I’ll start paying you guys :anyway seeing as I’m from New jersey and if mother nature is generous enough we get our fair share of snowfall/winter weather. With that said, if I wait till spring to replace the gears, would engaging the 4x4 in the winter have any effect on how much faster they wear out, or would it have no effect? Thanks again!
10-17-2007 09:08 PM
marc1kim
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Originally Posted by GrnTJ View Post
It wont cost much to simply replace the spiders.
You're absolutely right about that.
10-17-2007 08:21 PM
1BLKJP Well looking at those pics I would say that your spiders are pretty chewed up. Did they say how much metal they took out of the dif when they popped the cover off?

As far as getting the spider gears you can find them way cheap anywhere in town or on ebay. Putting them in is a snap.

Put the rear axle on jack stands, remove tires, drums, and diff cover. Rotate axle until you can see the cross pin and the pop it out. Push in on one axle at a time to remove the c-clips. Spiders will probably fall out. Replace with new spiders and put it all back together with fresh oil.
10-17-2007 06:51 PM
myanarchy If you have a few months, find a replacement axle. No point in locking the 35.

If you need to tackle it yourself, other than a torque wrench it doesn't require anything special, or any special skills. Your changing the guts of the carrier, not re-setting gears. Taking your time its only a 2 beer job.
10-17-2007 06:39 PM
GrnTJ I would agree with you marc but then he'd have to ahve the gears set back up and a whole bunch of new costs come up when you get into replacing ALL the internals. It wont cost much to simply replace the spiders.
10-17-2007 05:54 PM
marc1kim Save a little more and go for this:

http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=14400
10-17-2007 05:33 PM
GrnTJ I understand. Thats why I never take my stuff to shops though I guess. I dont even have the kind of money to pay for labor costs like that. Im still pretty confused on that whole rating system though. It took me 45 minuted to an hour to get it all done and Im not even a mechanic. Matter a fact it was my first time ever having any kind of differential apart at all. The labor rate seems fair but the amount of time it estimates for the work to be done seems unlikely to me for a licensed mechanic to accomplish the work in.
10-17-2007 04:08 PM
Gr3yTJ
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Originally Posted by GrnTJ View Post
Gr3y, hes not even talkign about having the ring and pinion replaced. All he needs are the spiders. If you really charge $400 jsut to have those put in than I think your ripping people of too to be honest. I did it myself for $35! Those gears are cheap. Not like they are complex parts. If you are talkin about a whole new set of gears (ring and pinion) than I guess thats decent but not for just the spiders. Id say you should spend about $100 if you where to have a mechanic put them in for you, including parts.
see its not even like that, we as service writers dont make up our own payment ill explain how it works... a shop has its own shop rate or service charge...ours is $79 an hour.....and to replace the SG its an axle assembly which the computer auto charges based on the dif rating of the work.... well for SGs it says about 3.7 hours so 79x3.7=292.3 with tax and brake cleaner and what ever else they use it will be around 300 something the plus the gears which is prolly more like 60 or 70 dollars when you dont get them off ebay.. so sorry if you think we rip people off but thats not the case here


Edit: just checked all data pro... and they charge 4.3 hours to change SGs
10-17-2007 03:45 PM
GrnTJ Gr3y, hes not even talkign about having the ring and pinion replaced. All he needs are the spiders. If you really charge $400 jsut to have those put in than I think your ripping people of too to be honest. I did it myself for $35! Those gears are cheap. Not like they are complex parts. If you are talkin about a whole new set of gears (ring and pinion) than I guess thats decent but not for just the spiders. Id say you should spend about $100 if you where to have a mechanic put them in for you, including parts.
10-17-2007 03:23 PM
Gr3yTJ wow they're trying to rip you a new one... i am a service writer at 4wd specialty in richmond and the price for SG is $400 for labor/ on any axle and then you just need to pay the price for the gears... which 411s for a d35 are about 135 i think
10-17-2007 01:38 PM
garcia6767 I appreciate all the help so far. I think I’ll just end up getting a few more quotes from other people. Anyway, what would be a reasonable price in getting them fixed by a mechanic? Including parts/labor? Any ideas? Thanks again.
10-17-2007 11:57 AM
Tj Bunch You could also put in like an aussie locker for a couple of hundred, I know they are not recomended on the 35's but crap why spend that much on something that is still gonna be stock.
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