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09-30-2011 01:33 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep
Yes, rolled separately it all fits easily, the tailgate bar of course doesn't, but the rest fits with lots of room to spare
Alright, awesome! Thanks a bunch!
09-28-2011 11:01 PM
O_M_Jeep Yes, rolled separately it all fits easily, the tailgate bar of course doesn't, but the rest fits with lots of room to spare
09-28-2011 06:55 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep
Because with the windows in the storage pockets it wont roll as small as it will without them, by which I mean the size of the rolled up top and rolled up windows rolled seperately and then bundled together is quite a bit smaller than the top and windows all rolled together. This is because the windows can't be rolled up properly when flattened out inside the top.
Alright, and is there any way to fold up the rear window without the tailgate bar? And just to make sure, you can fit the whole top AND the windows in an instatrunk?
09-27-2011 08:23 PM
O_M_Jeep Because with the windows in the storage pockets it wont roll as small as it will without them, by which I mean the size of the rolled up top and rolled up windows rolled seperately and then bundled together is quite a bit smaller than the top and windows all rolled together. This is because the windows can't be rolled up properly when flattened out inside the top.
09-27-2011 07:03 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep
you can fold and roll the top fairly small, small enough to fit in an instatrunk, I have mine, easily, you have to fold it in half top to bottom, then fold in thirds over the support braces, then roll, the windows should be rolled up seperatly anyway, if they are staying in the top and the top is staying on as a safari top, the window storage is great, if the top is comming off, dont leave them in the storage bags, you have to remember the windows are not flat, roll them up seperately and stow with the top, the rear window will not fit in the trunk unless you take the tail-gate bar off, it isnt difficult to do, but the more you take it off and put it on, the more it will loosen up, so I roll the window around the bar and stow it behind the seats, if you take out the tail-gate bar it will roll up smaller than any other window.

Storage aside, the frameless top is faster and easier than the stock top to put on and take off once you get used to it. The windows in the frameless top are absolutely the largest windows in any soft top you can get, it redifines what a soft top should be.
So why would folding and rolling it up be bad with the windows inside it? Im not against taking them out I just want to be able to put the whole top and full soft doors in my jeep before I pull the trigger
09-27-2011 12:18 PM
O_M_Jeep you can fold and roll the top fairly small, small enough to fit in an instatrunk, I have mine, easily, you have to fold it in half top to bottom, then fold in thirds over the support braces, then roll, the windows should be rolled up seperatly anyway, if they are staying in the top and the top is staying on as a safari top, the window storage is great, if the top is comming off, dont leave them in the storage bags, you have to remember the windows are not flat, roll them up seperately and stow with the top, the rear window will not fit in the trunk unless you take the tail-gate bar off, it isnt difficult to do, but the more you take it off and put it on, the more it will loosen up, so I roll the window around the bar and stow it behind the seats, if you take out the tail-gate bar it will roll up smaller than any other window.

Storage aside, the frameless top is faster and easier than the stock top to put on and take off once you get used to it. The windows in the frameless top are absolutely the largest windows in any soft top you can get, it redifines what a soft top should be.
09-27-2011 06:42 AM
peterc
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Originally Posted by TJChris27

It's a small trunk lol. Unless you have an LJ. It would be possible to roll them up but the trunk itself is not wide enough to hold them as is. You would need to...for lack of a better term... "stuff" them in the back. Plus the doors on top, or on the side pushing up against them.

Keep in mind I don't have half doors so I am just assuming this so I may be incorrect.
Oh ok... I was under the impression that the whole top would fit in the trunk easily, and I'm wrong? What if I were to lay it across the tub like where the framed soft top would lie down?
09-26-2011 10:50 PM
TJChris27
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Originally Posted by peterc

Ok.... And what would make it crease? The windows underneath the doors?
It's a small trunk lol. Unless you have an LJ. It would be possible to roll them up but the trunk itself is not wide enough to hold them as is. You would need to...for lack of a better term... "stuff" them in the back. Plus the doors on top, or on the side pushing up against them.

Keep in mind I don't have half doors so I am just assuming this so I may be incorrect.
09-26-2011 10:08 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by TJChris27

I would say more than likely yes. I wouldn't recommend it though. I have OCD about my soft windows and wouldn't wanna rough them up or put creases on them. That's just me though.
Ok.... And what would make it crease? The windows underneath the doors?
09-26-2011 05:33 PM
O_M_Jeep I looked at the solid uppers with sliding windows, $700/pr, then I saw one on a Jeep here, the windows open almost enough to get the fast food bag handed through, granted, for me that could be a good thing, full doors are hard to find and damn expensive, because no one gets half doors and sells the full ones, they keep them for winter.

((btw, how many times a day are you looking at the tracking numbers? lol, my stuff from RC gets here wednesday))
09-26-2011 05:06 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
you could make it fit with the sport cage, BUT ! ! ! It would be a process, you need someplace warm, and it would take a couple days to warm and stretch it to fit, using tarp-straps (like bunji-cords but stronger and stiffer) to pull it tight continualy, wet it, warm, let it dry. The problem you will run in to doing this is if your not careful it will stretch too far, also your likely to have issues with the rear window zippers no matter what.
Thanks for the advice! I'm thinking I'll just try to find a hard top at pic and pull or on craigslist or something... I also want to try to find full hard doors with roll up windows for winter wheeling.
09-26-2011 04:43 PM
O_M_Jeep you could make it fit with the sport cage, BUT ! ! ! It would be a process, you need someplace warm, and it would take a couple days to warm and stretch it to fit, using tarp-straps (like bunji-cords but stronger and stiffer) to pull it tight continualy, wet it, warm, let it dry. The problem you will run in to doing this is if your not careful it will stretch too far, also your likely to have issues with the rear window zippers no matter what.
09-26-2011 04:38 PM
Drakea94
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Originally Posted by peterc
Do you think you could fit the frameless top and some soft doors in the trunk?
Yea but it would be easier with no back seat .
09-26-2011 03:25 PM
TJChris27
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Originally Posted by peterc
Do you think you could fit the frameless top and some soft doors in the trunk?
I would say more than likely yes. I wouldn't recommend it though. I have OCD about my soft windows and wouldn't wanna rough them up or put creases on them. That's just me though.
09-26-2011 02:58 PM
peterc Do you think you could fit the frameless top and some soft doors in the trunk?
09-24-2011 02:00 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
Yeah, I don't think it will work with the rear crossbar.
That's what I was afraid of I guess I'll just stick with a soft top for now.
09-24-2011 01:37 PM
freeskier Yeah, I don't think it will work with the rear crossbar.
09-24-2011 01:01 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by TJChris27 View Post
Yea the bar across the rear of the cage is what concerns me. Anyone local to you that has one you could "try on" lol? I'd hate too see you order it to not have it fit. On another note I'm diggin your cage!

That's the same bar that concerns me too, as well as the front bar that also rises above the stock roll bar tubes.

Thanks for the compliment! It was on the Jeep when I got it, I think most of it is home made, but the front lower legs bolt into the dashboard bolts like some of the sport cages I've seen..

The factory soft top fits fine with it, but I'd like to go with something else other than factory, I just don't know what will work and what won't, I'll try to convince someone to let me try out their top and see if it works like you suggested.
09-24-2011 10:46 AM
SirGeorgeKillian I just put on my Trecktop. So far, so good. The overall quality seems very good. The top fits tight and so far I am pleased. The Trecktop has the "sunrider" feature, which lets you flip the top half back, super quickly too.
09-24-2011 10:43 AM
TJChris27 Yea the bar across the rear of the cage is what concerns me. Anyone local to you that has one you could "try on" lol? I'd hate too see you order it to not have it fit. On another note I'm diggin your cage!
09-24-2011 10:24 AM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
Post a picture of the cage and I can tell you if it will work or not.

Thanks! Here's some pics of my cage, it's kinda looking like I won't be able to use the rampage top.




09-23-2011 06:42 PM
jrussblues
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Originally Posted by peterc

Great! Thanks! And also to everyone, is there a headroom difference between frameless and a framed top for the driver in the passenger. Wondering because I heard it sits lower?
Yep, but unlike a jk there is a ton of headroom already. Im 6'4" and have a good 8" of headroom left with my frameless. The cool part is that with the shorter top i can still fit in parking garages and could prob bump another 3" of lift and easily fit in my own garage with 0 problems. It knocked what seems like a good 5" off of the canopy height.
09-23-2011 02:15 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by Drakea94

No it very easy I can put mine up from completely off in 8 min .
Great! Thanks! And also to everyone, is there a headroom difference between frameless and a framed top for the driver in the passenger. Wondering because I heard it sits lower?
09-23-2011 06:59 AM
Drakea94
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Originally Posted by peterc
Oh and actually one more question, is it a PITA to take it all the way down and put it all the way back up? Ill probably have it down most of the summer, but I love being able to convert to a safari. Will I regret it if I take it down all the way often?
No it very easy I can put mine up from completely off in 8 min .
09-23-2011 06:55 AM
peterc Oh and actually one more question, is it a PITA to take it all the way down and put it all the way back up? Ill probably have it down most of the summer, but I love being able to convert to a safari. Will I regret it if I take it down all the way often?
09-22-2011 09:11 PM
peterc
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Originally Posted by freeskier

The top follows the roll cage, take a blanket or something and simulate it. But if you like the top why cater to the comfort of your friends? It's YOUR jeep, not theirs, your not the one sitting back there...
That's a real good point, haha thanks! I'm not sure which look I like better, but I definatly love the functuality of the frameless, so I'm leaning towards that now.
09-22-2011 08:28 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
Is it weld on or clamp on? If it's weld on it won't work, if it's clamp on you can flip the bar around and it will work. However if you still have a rear seat you shouldn't flip the crossbar around.
It's welded, and my back seat is in the garage, most likely never to be used again. I'll try to get pictures tomorrow.
09-22-2011 08:06 PM
Drakea94
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Originally Posted by peterc

How much do you lose? I don't want my friends back there to be any more uncomfortable than they already are.
I'll measure tomorrow ?
09-22-2011 08:01 PM
freeskier
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Originally Posted by necromancer_tat View Post
I'll take one tomorrow if it isn't raining to bad, we're supposed to be getting a nasty storm tonight that is forecast to ruin my entire weekend... I've got something similar to the poison spider sport cage, there's a cross brace between my rear rolbar tubes that angles up and out a few inches from stock, it kinda makes me think I can't use the rampage top.
Is it weld on or clamp on? If it's weld on it won't work, if it's clamp on you can flip the bar around and it will work. However if you still have a rear seat you shouldn't flip the crossbar around.
09-22-2011 07:39 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
Post a picture of the cage and I can tell you if it will work or not.
...

I'll take one tomorrow if it isn't raining to bad, we're supposed to be getting a nasty storm tonight that is forecast to ruin my entire weekend... I've got something similar to the poison spider sport cage, there's a cross brace between my rear rolbar tubes that angles up and out a few inches from stock, it kinda makes me think I can't use the rampage top.
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