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Yesterday 05:23 PM
2012Willeys
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Originally Posted by Irobike View Post
Can't remember if I posted the wheels,hinges and 4x4 rated emblem all bed lined. I took 2 days from start to finish, mostly prep and allowing proper drying. Came out excellent. I used rustoleum bed liner rattle can. Atleast I got 2 thumbs up from my helpers
I crusied around with my back doors on for a while as well since my son is still in a carseat it made my wife feel much safer but I hadn't really seen others do the same. As long as I am not the only one, haha.
09-17-2014 08:33 PM
1monday I am back in school again (trying to fix a mistake from years ago) so there's no way I can take on another job to be able to swing it...I'm barely makin it as it is...probly should've bought the YJ instead of the JK but i needed the reliability
09-17-2014 08:31 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
haha...yes...navy is dark blue. Mine came with the chrome and back then, I didn't know any better, I liked it. You would've been the man on campus with a Jeep...every guy had a truck where I went...we all live and learn...at least the good ones of us do.
I don't learn from my mistakes that is why I can't afford that extra YJ
09-17-2014 08:27 PM
1monday haha...yes...navy is dark blue. Mine came with the chrome and back then, I didn't know any better, I liked it. You would've been the man on campus with a Jeep...every guy had a truck where I went...we all live and learn...at least the good ones of us do.
09-17-2014 08:18 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
hard top & full doors + soft top & full soft doors...it was Awesome! It was navy blue/grey interior with the chrome grill...very nice looking jeep...but it sat well, sounded good and drove like it was an extension of me...I really need a second job so I can afford one
and you have a willys wheeler now too. I love those!

Navy is the darker blue right? I had the light blue with the grey interior soft top and half doors. I went the other way and blacked out everything instead of chrome. I should have bought a hard top when I went to college instead of a truck
09-17-2014 08:15 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by roberthleeii View Post
I know it is un jeep like but the square lights and the styling of the front end just make really like those old YJs. I would really love to have the money one day to buy an other YJ with half doors and a soft top, I don't think you can get a better looking jeep than that. I did like in '92 when they changed to the newer style roll bars but that was the only thing I wanted to change on mine.

What top and doors did you have?
hard top & full doors + soft top & full soft doors...it was Awesome! It was navy blue/grey interior with the chrome grill...very nice looking jeep...but it sat well, sounded good and drove like it was an extension of me...I really need a second job so I can afford one
09-17-2014 08:05 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
on another note...
I see in your signature, your '88 YJ was your favorite vehicle ever...I had a '90, kept it for 25 years and then sold it for pennies during a financial hardship...one of my biggest regrets. Cheers to you...
I know it is un jeep like but the square lights and the styling of the front end just make really like those old YJs. I would really love to have the money one day to buy an other YJ with half doors and a soft top, I don't think you can get a better looking jeep than that. I did like in '92 when they changed to the newer style roll bars but that was the only thing I wanted to change on mine.

What top and doors did you have?
09-17-2014 07:43 PM
1monday hey Robert Lee... no harm, no foul...we are all here for a good time and never hesitate to express your opinion...that's what makes this so great...every side has a say.

on another note...
I see in your signature, your '88 YJ was your favorite vehicle ever...I had a '90, kept it for 25 years and then sold it for pennies during a financial hardship...one of my biggest regrets. Cheers to you...
09-17-2014 07:32 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by Boppa View Post
Don't several of our vendors sell "covers" for the third brake light? For example:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/15531_0016.htm

What would be the difference between installing one of these and the paint job in question?
I would have gone more for the old ram head brake lights as an example that use to be on the dodge pickups I remember listening to this same type of argument when those were popular.



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Originally Posted by nboucher98 View Post
Clearly not a lawyer. It may be required in your state, but it's not required in all states (including the one in which I'm licensed to practice law, Texas).

One can sue anyone for anything in this great nation, but having a painted third brake light is far more likely to work as a defense ("I wouldn't have hit him if I'd have seen the third brake light") than a cause of action ("He caused the wreck with his painted third brake light, and I'm entitled to compensation"). In fact, that's a loser right from the start, for lots of reasons. Someone may sue, but they won't win.
Clearly you are a great lawyer. Since I am not a lawyer I think what I bolded kind of makes my case that it is something not to mess with, but what do I know. If you want to pout about it fine. I would not have a problem if you took yours off completely because your state does not require it what does it matter to me. I would not and I expressed my opinion on why I would not. The fact that it was a legal requirement to have one never entered my mind.
I am here to have a good time I won't bring it up any more I just thought I would share that I would be concerned that some A-hole out there might go after this guy if something stupid were to happen, even if it had nothing to do with the theoretical accident we are talking about. Law completely on your side or not if you get to court and a sympathetic jury I just thought there was a chance he could possibly run in to problems in the future.

Have a good evening.
09-17-2014 01:12 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by Boppa View Post
Don't several of our vendors sell "covers" for the third brake light? For example:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/15531_0016.htm

What would be the difference between installing one of these and the paint job in question?
idk, I thought of that too...the peanut gallery will say that just because they sell it, doesn't make it right/legal...and it still opens you up for being sued...but so does walking down the street crooked. I don't understand what the big deal is
09-17-2014 01:02 PM
Boppa Don't several of our vendors sell "covers" for the third brake light? For example:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/15531_0016.htm

What would be the difference between installing one of these and the paint job in question?
09-17-2014 09:28 AM
Mr. BBW
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Originally Posted by RAMM241 View Post
I have these. I love the look, but I about passed out taking a sawzall to my brand new jeep.
Do they match the fender flares well?
09-17-2014 09:18 AM
Mr. BBW
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Originally Posted by RAMM241 View Post
I have these. I love the look, but I about passed out taking a sawzall to my brand new jeep.
That looks really nice! Are they the quadratec?

Thanks so much for posting a pic!! I think I shall go this route just skip Line-X

The sawzall part makes my stomach hurt...
09-17-2014 04:40 AM
RAMM241
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Originally Posted by Mr. BBW View Post
On a tight budget till after Xmas and want some opinions... Add these end caps and them get entire bumper Linexed??? Does the Linex hold up pretty well? Any feedback would be awesome!!! I had posted this somewhere else but this seems a better spot...
I have these. I love the look, but I about passed out taking a sawzall to my brand new jeep.
09-16-2014 10:34 PM
1monday CHMSL ? I had to look it up to see what that stood for...good thing I'm not a lawyer
09-16-2014 10:30 PM
1monday you might be right robert lee...I wouldn't paint over it by chance that I MIGHT hafta go to court or get sued...too much pain in the a$$ for some paint that i wouldn't even see. I was just playing the devils advocate...you win this round
09-16-2014 10:26 PM
nboucher98
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I'm no lawyer, but the CHMSL is not optional equipment, it's a federal requirement. Tampering with it by removal or painting over it can definitely get you sued by somebody that hits you and is injured. Is that likely? Probably not. However it is a possibility. If I was in a scenario where someone with their brake lights painted over stopped short and I hit them, and in the process got injured and missed work, racked up huge medical bills and otherwise changed my lifestyle, I would lawyer up VERY fast. Then it would be up to the judge or jury to decide who is at fault.
Clearly not a lawyer. It may be required in your state, but it's not required in all states (including the one in which I'm licensed to practice law, Texas).

One can sue anyone for anything in this great nation, but having a painted third brake light is far more likely to work as a defense ("I wouldn't have hit him if I'd have seen the third brake light") than a cause of action ("He caused the wreck with his painted third brake light, and I'm entitled to compensation"). In fact, that's a loser right from the start, for lots of reasons. Someone may sue, but they won't win.
09-16-2014 10:22 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
But that is only one brake light...I am saying that even if none of them worked it would still be that person's fault for following to close or whatever...but I am not a policeman...nor a lawyer...a policeman did say that to another person when they ran into the back of me...years ago though, maybe it's changed, idk.

I might have to look that one up
I am not a lawyer but play one on the internet
Any decent in my opinion lawyer will tear you up for covering any brake light, safety first!

If you rear end some one it is your fault but then there are always exceptions, ways around, and other types of fallout possible especially if you mess with safety and warning stuff.

Then again I could be totally wrong about this, but I would not paint over my break light. I would draw the line at guards over the lights.
09-16-2014 10:19 PM
Espo78 It doesn't have to be against the law for you to sue someone over it. But it is against the law.
09-16-2014 10:07 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by roberthleeii View Post
who ever runs in to your car would probably have very good to case in court because you covered up your brake light.
But that is only one brake light...I am saying that even if none of them worked it would still be that person's fault for following to close or whatever...but I am not a policeman...nor a lawyer...a policeman did say that to another person when they ran into the back of me...years ago though, maybe it's changed, idk.

I might have to look that one up
09-16-2014 09:42 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
If I am not mistaken, even if none of your brake lights work, if someone hits you from behind, it's still their fault...(shouldn't have been following so close)....
who ever runs in to your car would probably have very good to case in court because you covered up your brake light.
09-16-2014 09:33 PM
Espo78 I'm no lawyer, but the CHMSL is not optional equipment, it's a federal requirement. Tampering with it by removal or painting over it can definitely get you sued by somebody that hits you and is injured. Is that likely? Probably not. However it is a possibility. If I was in a scenario where someone with their brake lights painted over stopped short and I hit them, and in the process got injured and missed work, racked up huge medical bills and otherwise changed my lifestyle, I would lawyer up VERY fast. Then it would be up to the judge or jury to decide who is at fault.
09-16-2014 07:51 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I prefer to have people actually see when I hit the brake lights. Also it's good fodder for lawyers when the person that hits you claims you painted your brake lights so he couldn't see you stop. Then you get sued.
If I am not mistaken, even if none of your brake lights work, if someone hits you from behind, it's still their fault...(shouldn't have been following so close)....
09-16-2014 07:47 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by Kevinsmith5 View Post
A redhead that mods her own Jeep? Be still my heart
is that what it takes to get dates? drive a jacked up jeep with a mad mods and mud? I'm really gonna hafta get a second job to pay for all this then...
09-16-2014 07:37 PM
Kevinsmith5
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I prefer to have people actually see when I hit the brake lights. Also it's good fodder for lawyers when the person that hits you claims you painted your brake lights so he couldn't see you stop. Then you get sued.
Since that's optional equipment even Johnny Cochran (God rest his shyster soul) wouldn't get that dog to hunt.
09-16-2014 07:33 PM
Kevinsmith5
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
I have red hair so I like orange...what's wrong with that? If I could've waited long enough, I would've ordered my jeep in orange...but that day, patience was not my virtue. So I hafta settle for some orange details. Deal with it.
A redhead that mods her own Jeep? Be still my heart
09-15-2014 10:38 PM
Oblazer
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I prefer to have people actually see when I hit the brake lights. Also it's good fodder for lawyers when the person that hits you claims you painted your brake lights so he couldn't see you stop. Then you get sued.
The same argument could be made for anyone who night shades any of there lights. I do agree with you that if an accident were to happen, and someone was observant enough to see the paint, it could come into play legally. On the other hand, it looks like he/she took care to place the gaps in paint over the actual bulbs, meaning it will illuminate with about the same intensity. I think it looks pretty cool.
09-15-2014 10:03 PM
Bent jeep
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post
i have red hair so i like orange...what's wrong with that? If i could've waited long enough, i would've ordered my jeep in orange...but that day, patience was not my virtue. So i hafta settle for some orange details. Deal with it.
09-15-2014 09:31 PM
1monday
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Originally Posted by Bent jeep View Post
You want your jeep to look like a giant pumpkin?...

Everybody loves Cinderella and all, but geez. Go big or go home.
I have red hair so I like orange...what's wrong with that? If I could've waited long enough, I would've ordered my jeep in orange...but that day, patience was not my virtue. So I hafta settle for some orange details. Deal with it.
09-15-2014 09:28 PM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I prefer to have people actually see when I hit the brake lights. Also it's good fodder for lawyers when the person that hits you claims you painted your brake lights so he couldn't see you stop. Then you get sued.
I would have to second this.
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