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08-04-2014 10:51 PM
Laney OlllllllO So long as the rock rails are bolted onto your frame you can definitely jack em up that way. I've been doing a lot of reading on them and you can change a tire with a hi lift so long as you use them safely and correctly (don't get between the handle and rail, use jack stands, use a larger foot base if necessary)

Also depending on which model you get it can be used as a clamp. Look up some videos on YouTube it saved me a ton of time
08-04-2014 09:50 PM
cdeslandes
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Originally Posted by fbadfhf View Post
How important is a Hi-Lift jack While off-roading????
I recently got hi-centered on a bump with no tree in front (thus couldn't winch myself out) so I had to use the OEM jack to lift the front axle so I could place rocks under my tires and get myself out. It took me over 1/2 hour of messy work with the small jack. I was lucky to even make it work. Had I had a hi-lift it would have been a quick, easy task. I ordered the hi-lift that night.
08-04-2014 09:43 PM
kmrtnsn
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Originally Posted by fbadfhf View Post
How important is a Hi-Lift jack While off-roading????
We were wheeling this weekend when a TJ in the group snapped an axle. The repair site was uneven (hey, you don't always get to choose an optimal location), requiring the use of a Hi-Lift to jack the body from the driver's side slider, a winch line running to a snatch block on a tree from another Jeep to the rear bumper of the Jeep being repaired, and a bottle jack on the axle, while two guys and a two removed tires fitting underneath all the while trying to remove Dana 35 axle clips and a locker, to get the axle swapped. Quite a feat of engineering that couldn't have been done without the use of the Hi-lift.
08-04-2014 07:47 PM
cdeslandes I believe it's safe to jack at the front bumpers, as long as it's right at the frame extensions.
08-04-2014 06:37 PM
Cascade Wanderer Got my 60" Hi-Lift jack about 24 years ago. It's been in three different 4x4's over that period.

Used it once off-road, to lift the front of one of my rigs up out of a deep rut. Very useful for that. Otherwise? Not so much. I've used it around the house a few times to tug and lift things. They deserve respect. Can get off-plumb and topple pretty easily, sending everything crashing down.

Potentially useful? Sure. A must-have? Probably not, not for me anyway. I carry a shovel too, and rarely have to use it. Most frequent used hand-tool I carry is a bow saw, for clearing fallen logs from the trail.

Guy
08-04-2014 12:00 PM
NoGaBiker
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Originally Posted by mommymallcrawler View Post

I do not believe it would be a good idea to jack the whole weight on the rails but leave this to others who know more than I do.
I've always read that it's perfectly acceptable to jack from the Rubi rock rails, but admittedly haven't done it. (Haven't need to use the Hi Lift -- would rather winch out if possible.)

But think about it: the rock rails are designed to take the whole weight of one side of the Jeep, if necessary, without crushing and allowing body damage. So it makes sense they would be fine as a jacking point.

I also have the wheel-lift adapter, but of course that's useless if you need to change a tire. But that's something to do with the stock jack anyway. If you're on mud or some sort of terrain that isn't conducive to using the stock jack, well, move the dang Jeep! It's not like a flat renders the thing immobile.
08-03-2014 09:36 PM
bmwchicken I have a 60" Hi-Lift for sale if anyone is interested. It's brand new, never used, still in the box. Let me know!
08-01-2014 03:06 PM
Climber195
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Originally Posted by mommymallcrawler View Post
I do not believe it would be a good idea to jack the whole weight on the rails but leave this to others who know more than I do.
I had a suspicion that you were right. However, without the rock rails, I can't use it on the stock bumpers either. Where else can I use it? Same locations as where the bottle jack uses?
08-01-2014 02:34 PM
mommymallcrawler I am not an expert but I have only seen two sizes - 48 and 60. I went to my local offroad shop when i wanted to get Lunatic one for his birthday. He is lifted and on 37s. They said the 48. Another issue with the 60 is that limits mounting options.

I do not believe it would be a good idea to jack the whole weight on the rails but leave this to others who know more than I do.
08-01-2014 02:23 PM
Climber195 I have a question that can be related to Chomperz's question:

Can I use Hi-Lift to jack up my stock Rubicon by the rock rails doing something like tire changing?
08-01-2014 02:01 PM
Chomperz
Thread Ressurection!

Noobie question here... I feel silly for asking, but I'm gonna throw it out there anyways...

How do you know how high of a jack you need? Simply by how high your Jeep is?
10-10-2011 10:44 AM
JIMBOX I've been using a HiLift for over 40 years and I've ALWAYS kept them inside and either booted (snow/mud/dirt) or wrapped--

About 6 months ago, I gotta HiLift "JACKGUARD" and it'a a black case that encloses the jack and makes strapped storage easy and allows you to carry it anywhere with one hand--kinda like a gun case/w handle-

Quadratec-Pt#92200.100/$29.99--

Handy/dandy

JIMBO
10-10-2011 10:23 AM
CG3 I think it's rather like insurance. If you have it, you most likely won't need it. If you don't, you'll need it for sure...
10-10-2011 09:30 AM
zaitcev I only used my Hi-Lift for recovery once, after being high-centered. I still have plastic bumpers, so I drove its nose into wheel spokes, then threw rocks under the raised wheel until I was able to roll off. The question is, is the jack worth it? Well, I also carry a spare tire and never had to use it, so I suppose Hi-Lift was more useful than spare, for me.
10-10-2011 05:54 AM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by CG3 View Post
I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...
I agree. Thanks for the idea. Now you've got me looking for something similar.
10-09-2011 11:51 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by CG3

I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...
That seems like it would be effective.
10-09-2011 11:49 PM
CG3
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
A foot square piece of plywood under the jack helps in the soft stuff.
I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...
10-09-2011 11:04 PM
off a cough
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Originally Posted by Car123 View Post
So buy a Hi-Lift would be a good idea?
Think about where you wheel and problems you've run into, or might run into. How would you personally use it? Not everyone's wheeling would require it.

Although you might think they look cool, just don't bolt the thing on and carry it back and forth to work every day. It's heavy and just going to burn gas.
10-09-2011 10:57 PM
Car123 So buy a Hi-Lift would be a good idea?
10-09-2011 10:36 PM
jk'n
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Originally Posted by zaitcev View Post
A properly maintained Hi-Lift is quite unlikely to drop the load. Not to get under a raised jeep is a reasonable precaution, and it will keep you safe. However, using Hi- improperly is hazardous in different ways, especially when switching the direction. The most dangerous part is to get hit with the free-swinging handle, if you lose control of it.
Totally agree with all of this. Knowing how it is used and being careful during use is reasonable with any procedure that can have disastrous consequences if not paying attention to details of safety.
10-09-2011 10:32 PM
zaitcev
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Originally Posted by jk'n View Post
I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.
A properly maintained Hi-Lift is quite unlikely to drop the load. Not to get under a raised jeep is a reasonable precaution, and it will keep you safe. However, using Hi-Lift improperly is hazardous in different ways, especially when switching the direction. The most dangerous part is to get hit with the free-swinging handle, if you lose control of it.

P.S. Hi-Lift is hazardous if you do not follow instructions to the letter for the reasons of being tired, drunk, or complacent.
10-09-2011 10:28 PM
jk'n A foot square piece of plywood under the jack helps in the soft stuff.
10-09-2011 10:24 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by jk'n
If you are out in the middle of the woods and need to change your tire, I wouldn't want to try it with the stock scissors jack. I would go with the high lift. I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.
I carry jack stands. But that doesn't do well in mud
10-09-2011 10:24 PM
jkaufman_95 I was totally against them. But my mind can be changed. They have a lot of valid uses. I might have to get one. They also make a spreader tip for the top that can be used as a vehicle extraction device which is cool.
10-09-2011 10:21 PM
jk'n If you are out in the middle of the woods and need to change your tire, I wouldn't want to try it with the stock scissors jack. I would go with the high lift. I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.
10-09-2011 10:16 PM
CG3 I have a buddy that got himself high centered on something... he used his high lift to jack his toyo up and shove it off the lift about 3 times... voile' - no longer high centered...
10-09-2011 10:12 PM
Car123 haha jimbo thats awesome!!!!!!
10-09-2011 10:10 PM
off a cough Never use a hi-lift to change a tire unless conditions prohibit any other possible alternative.

The hi-lift is good to get you over an obstacle, esp if you're high-centered or something. It can be used to tweak your Jeep a little one direction or the other to get around a tree. There are a number of creative uses and it can save you.

I've never needed mine. I had it bolted on my TJ for years. It was extra weight and the paint has flaked off from road salt.

I'll clean it up and figure a way to take it with me when I need it, and leave it at home the rest of the time.

Or better yet, remember that you generally only need one for an entire party of Jeeps running a trail together...

Let me repeat, though, don't change a tire with a hi-lift.
10-09-2011 10:05 PM
jk'n Jimbo, you've done it again. Who'd a thunk?.....an anchor! Let me add that to the many uses of a high lift. I'm impressed!
10-09-2011 10:05 PM
Redsand it would be a pretty crappy day but you can use it as a winch, but it wouldnt be fun
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