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10-12-2011 08:36 PM
Ed in North Ga. SQL?....gawd. Give me Excell anyday. Actually, im wringing out MASS 500 right now...joy to the world.
Does anyone use pencils anymore?

If you just want to say you did it- the actual "head" of the chattahoochee is up at the top end of the chattahoochee road- if you come in from the Helen side, just go till the road ends-then get out and follow water till it trickles. The think, "it all starts here". Best leave the kids at home- its a little bit of a trek from the boulders at roads end.
10-11-2011 11:27 PM
Wratha
FS Roads

Ed, Thanks so much for all your insight!
If you ever need any advice on SQL programming, I'm your man.

Lokka, let me get back to you about a time/place. I need to confirm with Star Command (my wife).
10-11-2011 08:49 PM
Ed in North Ga.
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You had mentioned that if it's rained good, we will be turning around or swimming. This may be a question for 4wheel drive school, but once I get to the river crossing, how do I tell if the water is shallow enough or safe enough to drive thru, if it's not obvious? Ofcourse, I don't want to walk out to the middle of it to check.

Why not bother with Charlie's creek? What's wrong with it?

I think we are going to check out the Chattahoochee River Rd. next Sunday.
From what you described and what I've read about it being a scenic drive, it should be a fun trip for the family. If we have time, we'll check out a portion of Tray Mtn.

Any chance of the Jeep getting stuck on any of these roads?
How is cell phone service out there?

Just don't want to put the family in a stressful situation.
We're out there to have fun, escape the hustle and bustle of everyday Atlanta living, and not be stressed out; if you know what I mean.
I doubt seriously there will be any stress- their pretty basic roads- if the waters down, you can ford the chattahoochee river crossings in a car...seen it done many times(also was driven at mach one speed up one crossing to come out at the next in a full size bronco at 1am...priceless). But if it HAS rained, better to come in from the robertstown/helen entrance. That way you drive in a little ways, see water thats too deep, and turn around- If you come from the top of Unicoi down, its a long drive back out and up to the top again. The water crossings are much closer to Helen than the top of Unicoi. My rule of thumb on these three crossings- if its doorsill high, its too high. Too much a chance of getting water into things that dont like water in them. Last time I went through, it was ankle deep and clear. rock/ripple concrete bottom.

I dont mind Charlies creek, but in reality-its really just a shortcut/driveway- we use it to get to Tate City( and they use it to shave a half hour drive out). Unofficially around here, its called the persimmion bypass or Tate City bypass- now, on the other side- its beyond beautiful- the road is just common to get there from here....untill you reach the river. (you have to go downstream to get to the road on the other side...and if youve never done it, its spooky..and theres holes....BIG holes...)- I`d come in off 76 up Persimmon road and enjoy THAT ride over Charlie mountain road anyday.( Tate City is home of the ultra rich- its a free road, and ALL the people in Tate City are super nice unless you do something stupid.)

The Tray Mountain road entrance off 17/75 above Helen is(or was) the roughest part of that entire road-but not right off the bottom, it used to get bad right around rice cabin falls and goat fields- other than that, its a nice road.

Go-enjoy- no stress. If the rain dont shake the leaves off the trees, your in for one of the best falls weve had in years. Cell service spotty for portions of Tray, off and on depending on where your at on River Road. Get stuck, sit awhile, someone else will be along shortly. Its bound to be a busy road this weekend-- remember where your turnouts are as you pass them- if the vehicle comeing the other way is big, your backing up....and youll be suprised at how big a camper can be pulled back into the middle of nowhere.
10-11-2011 01:09 PM
lokka I am still interested... I have a tow strap just in case, but no winch. My rule of thumb is, if in a dicey situation... keep one vehicle back to help with recovery, and let the other pass. Also, never wheel alone.

Want to setup time/location?
10-10-2011 10:44 PM
Wratha
Forest Service Roads

You had mentioned that if it's rained good, we will be turning around or swimming. This may be a question for 4wheel drive school, but once I get to the river crossing, how do I tell if the water is shallow enough or safe enough to drive thru, if it's not obvious? Ofcourse, I don't want to walk out to the middle of it to check.

Why not bother with Charlie's creek? What's wrong with it?

I think we are going to check out the Chattahoochee River Rd. next Sunday.
From what you described and what I've read about it being a scenic drive, it should be a fun trip for the family. If we have time, we'll check out a portion of Tray Mtn.

Any chance of the Jeep getting stuck on any of these roads?
How is cell phone service out there?

Just don't want to put the family in a stressful situation.
We're out there to have fun, escape the hustle and bustle of everyday Atlanta living, and not be stressed out; if you know what I mean.
10-10-2011 09:24 PM
Ed in North Ga. Either is fun- Tray Mountain is longer, the hooch is flatter with crossings-
Years back, we used to race the "Head of the River" during winter months.-
In a good long day, and you can do both. Make it a full loop-
take Chimney Mnt road off 356 south of unicoi State park- theres a few entrances, any/or work. Follow it until it turns left/right (either work, right takes you to south of Owl Creek off 17/75-turn left to head to Unicoi Mountain/ Left takes you to Tray Mountain express-dumps out just above Helen-unless you take Indian Grave that comes out at the base of Unicoi Mountain/17-75 north side.
Either way, once your on 17/75 head to the top of Unicoi and turn onto Chattahoochee River Road ( Wilks gap rd) follow it across the saddle and down into the hollow- when the road ends at a T, right to go to the head of the chattahoochee, left to go back to Robertstown/Helen- 3 river crossings on the low side- if its rained good, your turning around or swimming.
Ive spent so much of my teenage years in both places I can drive them blindfolded. ALL roads are now open/tornado cleanup has ended, but their still logging.

Truthfully, I wouldnt bother doing Charlies creek...( if you do, wave as you go by the house but I wouldnt say Persimmon road is out of the way for leaf watching -

For those who care, the leaves are changing fast-real fast- IF the rain dont wash them out of the trees, should be peak next weekend in the north georgia area.
10-10-2011 11:45 AM
lokka That's pretty interesting. I've been on the lookout for something similar... and even thought that it might be a good idea to start something because I didn't come across anything around here.

I would like to know more info such as what you teach, cost, location, duration, etc. Unlikely that I would sign-up right now though. Have had my '12 Rubi for less than 2 months, and haven't put on any mods yet. Might be a while therefore...
10-10-2011 06:16 AM
4WD School
4WD School

Yes, I own the 4WD School, but I work full time for Drive Offroad.

I've lived in North Georgia since 1991, so I know some of the backroads and trails.
10-09-2011 07:33 PM
lokka Thanks, 4WD School. That's some helpful info... I'm new to GA, and am always on the lookout for new trail info.

So as your handle implies... you running some sort of a 4WD school?
10-09-2011 08:05 AM
4WD School
North Georgia scenic dirt roads

I don't recall any creek crossings, but it is a nice day trip, especially this time of year.

Just up the road (Hwy.75) is another Forest Service gravel road that takes you to Horse Trough Falls. Horse Trough Falls Trail - GeorgiaTrails.com

From there you can continue downhill all the back to Helen. And, since they are "roads" they appear on a typical Garmin map.

You might check out Charlies Creek Road just east of Hiawassee near Lake Burton on another day. It does have a few nice creek crossings.

Even the road into Helton Creek Falls can be fun for the family. It is near Vogel State Park with their camping, big lake, hiking trails, etc.

North Georgia offers a lot.

The USFS offers online digital maps here: Forest Service Yet Determined.Html&ttype=detailfull&pname=Chattahooch ee-Oconee National Forest- Maps

Enjoy !
10-08-2011 07:51 PM
Wratha Are there any creek crossings or such?
Easy with a few minor fun spots sounds like a family adventure. Just what we are looking for.
10-08-2011 03:12 PM
4WD School Tray Mountain Road is a gravel Forest Service road. It has a few minor fun spots, but its pretty easy.
10-07-2011 04:15 PM
lokka I'd be interested... It's about 100 miles from where I live, and therefore would like to get some more details on the trails. Don't want to drive 100mi for some dirt track.
10-05-2011 03:02 PM
Wratha
Tray Mountain Ride

I was thinking of driving Tray Mtn. sometime this month. It will be a great time to see some N. GA color. However, since I have never driven Tray Mtn., I could use some company. I am a newb and my jeep is stock. But, I have heard that a stock jeep can easily navigate Tray Mtn. Can anyone confirm this?

Anyone interested in going? If so, let's set a date/time/meeting location. I was hoping to do it on the 15 or 16th of this month.

Also, I had heard somewhere about a jeep trail ride called the "Chatahoochee River Run", in the same area as Tray Mtn. (close to Helen). I heard it was easier than Tray Mtn. but it had a lot of fun creek crossings. Anyone know anything about this trail or how I can get more info about it?

Thanks for your help.

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