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05-15-2012 02:47 PM
FuzzyJK
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Originally Posted by jdmeara View Post
Alohagirl...Glad you got your jeep back. I'm doing research on the Sentry Key Lock System and any instances where they were successfully bypassed. Do you have any info on how they actually did it? Does anyone else here know of any others like this or any places to look to find out about instances such as this?

If you use a bypass to install a remote starter will that enable the vehicle to be stolen?

Thanks.
simple answer yes witha remote start they need a chipped key or a box that prgrams in the sentry code so the vehicle can start (it requires to read the sentry code before starting) so in theory it can become easier to steal then again if a theif is going to go through the work of wiring diagrams and researching it probably wont matter there going to get the jeep. unless you plan on having a armed gaurd inside your jeep 24/7 it is ALWAYS at risk to be stolen regardless of alarm or security measures the old saying "if someone wants it bad enough"


Glad you got your jeep back truely a crazy story you are one of the few to get there baby back after crossing mexico border im sure
05-15-2012 08:17 AM
jdmeara Alohagirl...Glad you got your jeep back. I'm doing research on the Sentry Key Lock System and any instances where they were successfully bypassed. Do you have any info on how they actually did it? Does anyone else here know of any others like this or any places to look to find out about instances such as this?

If you use a bypass to install a remote starter will that enable the vehicle to be stolen?

Thanks.
03-24-2012 04:26 AM
wrangler0 Amazing!!
Congrats on getting your Jeep back!

Karma was on your side!
03-24-2012 03:06 AM
RatherBNarizona Wow, good to hear you got it back!
I hate thieves with a passion, scum of the earth.
Glad you got everything worked out, most people don't see their babies again.
03-24-2012 02:34 AM
alohagirl
UPDATE: I got my Jeep back!!!

In case anyone comes along and reads this old thread, here's an update:

I got my Jeep back, but it took a while. Apparently, the State cops were fighting the Federal cops over which of them would get to keep my Jeep. In the end, State Farm's Mexican liaison convinced them to give it back.

It wasn't in too bad of shape, all things considered. The car thieves had only broken the passenger door lock and ripped open the steering column. But while it sat for three weeks in a Tijuana impound lot, other thieves stole everything that wasn't nailed down and a few things that were, like floor mats, owner's manual, even the cover to the jack compartment. (WTH are they going to do with that?!!) And the dash was damaged where they tried unsuccessfully to pry out the factory-installed navigation touch screen.

After three more weeks at the local dealership, she's good as new...almost. Even after professional detailing and shampooing, there's this funky smell, like a wet dog. It's not too bad though, only noticeable when the Jeep's been sitting closed up for a few days.

The day I got it back I had it outfitted with the best security system I could find starting with hood locks, which should be every Jeep owner's first line of defense. The first thing these thieves did was lift the hood and pull the horn wire, instantly neutralizing the factory-installed alarm. After that, they can punch out the door lock and take their time bypassing the rest of the Sentry system. Even in a busy college parking lot with regular security patrols, nobody heard or saw a thing. (It kills me to know that a simple $30 pair of hood locks would have made those thieves ignore my Jeep and pick an easier target.)

I also got additional kill switches, interior sensors (for when the top's off), tilt sensors (so they can't quietly pull it onto a flatbed), 1-mile paging key fob, plus automatic arming in case I forget.

Yeah, all that security cost a small fortune, BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING MY BABY AGAIN!!!

Alohagirl
P.S. To people who ask, "Why go to all that trouble to protect your Jeep when you have good insurance?" I reply, "If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand."
10-25-2011 02:13 AM
jkaufman_95 Initially I was gonna jump on oilwell. Then I read what golden wrote, so I had to edit it. I think that argument is going nowhere fast
10-24-2011 09:44 AM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
Its not naive, its realistic. It's not our job to peform sting operations. And it wasn't even the legislative government it was some firearms, tobacco, alcohal agency or something. It is their job to do what they did. You comparing the a government sting to regular people giving illegals guns, just makes no sense. Have a little sense of patriotic duty and respect your country. At least we are trying to do something about the problem, even if it did backfire and was a stupid plan from the begining. The guy in charge of the whole operation is most likely losing his job along with several others, so there is punishment being dealt within the gov.
The law is the law regardless of who they are or who they work for. They don't get a pass just because they're with BATFE. From what you've said so far, if an undercover agent had to kill an innocent civilian to maintain their cover you would be completely OK with that. This is the same situation to a lesser degree. "By any means necessary" does not apply to this sort of operation.

If I remember correctly from another thread you are either in highschool or just got out. If that is correct, I have more time in service to my country than you have time on planet. You are in no place, nor will you ever be, to tell me about patriotic duty and respect for my country.
10-22-2011 06:37 AM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by oilwell1415 View Post
If you or I or anyone else outside the government had facilitated putting guns in the hands of people who we KNEW were taking them illegally into Mexico and it was traced back to us we would be in jail right now for smuggling guns across the border. Just because they weren't driving the trucks doesn't mean they aren't just as guilty. To think otherwise is absurdly idealistic and naive.

Its not naive, its realistic. It's not our job to peform sting operations. And it wasn't even the legislative government it was some firearms, tobacco, alcohal agency or something. It is their job to do what they did. You comparing the a government sting to regular people giving illegals guns, just makes no sense. Have a little sense of patriotic duty and respect your country. At least we are trying to do something about the problem, even if it did backfire and was a stupid plan from the begining. The guy in charge of the whole operation is most likely losing his job along with several others, so there is punishment being dealt within the gov.
10-21-2011 11:57 PM
Quetzal
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Originally Posted by Scharfschutze91 View Post
I'm really sorry to hear about your Jeep... makes me wish even more that we could just blow all of mexico to kingdom come and rebuild... we all know they do it anyways already, why not help in their demise?
That's just a moronic statement in more ways than one.
10-21-2011 09:18 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
Thats retarded. The US gov. was using the guns to track them to the big shots in the cartels, and then kill them. Except the plan backfired. Just because the gov is stupid doesnt mean it was doing the smuggling. Don't distort facts.
If you or I or anyone else outside the government had facilitated putting guns in the hands of people who we KNEW were taking them illegally into Mexico and it was traced back to us we would be in jail right now for smuggling guns across the border. Just because they weren't driving the trucks doesn't mean they aren't just as guilty. To think otherwise is absurdly idealistic and naive.
10-21-2011 09:15 PM
GoldenSahara00 It was a good idea if they had followed it through correctly. Personally I would have just dropped a couple bombs on the cartel complexes, and been done with it. Don't know how we can screw up that bad.
10-21-2011 09:14 PM
jkaufman_95 I agree that that operation was idiotic. Completely. My dad and I actually discussed it today. But that in no way means the gov't is a drug/ arms dealer. That's my .02 and I'll leave it at that
10-21-2011 09:07 PM
GoldenSahara00 Thats retarded. The US gov. was using the guns to track them to the big shots in the cartels, and then kill them. Except the plan backfired. Just because the gov is stupid doesnt mean it was doing the smuggling. Don't distort facts.
10-21-2011 08:57 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 View Post
Yeah. That statement makes total sense.
I'm not sure if that is supposed to be sarcastic or not. In case it is, here's the story:

Did the Obama White House Authorize Gun Smuggling into Mexico? | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
10-21-2011 06:37 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by oilwell1415

They used to. Now that our own government is doing the smuggling they probably aren't allowed to do so anymore.
Yeah. That statement makes total sense.
10-21-2011 02:42 PM
tristan4.0 I moved from San Diego in January and bought my Rubi the August prior. I was warned by ORW and off roading buddies that they were a hot item for smugglers and other peeps over the boarder because of the jeeps capabilities. I installed a manual kill switch, an alarm, locking lugs, and garaged it and I still did not sleep well at night. I am sorry for your loss! Going off of another post that was talking about installing posts that drop to prevent stealing, I say rip out the air bag and install a 12 gauge that can be fired off if stolen. A little bit of a mess but itll do the trick.
10-21-2011 01:00 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by Roadhawg View Post
I would double check your info. Border Patrol can stop any car they want from going across the border. They do so all the time looking for guns or money returning to Mexico.
They used to. Now that our own government is doing the smuggling they probably aren't allowed to do so anymore.
10-21-2011 11:27 AM
Roadhawg
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Originally Posted by alohagirl View Post
Downtown San Diego is only 17 miles from the Tijuana border crossing. If I set my Geofence wider than 10 miles, I'd be getting text alerts constantly every time I went anywhere. Entering Geofence...exiting Geofence...entering Geofence...

Turns out the Geofence is a moot point anyway. I was told this morning that American border guards aren't allowed to stop ANY cars going into Mexico, even the ones they know are stolen. (Some kind of international law violation.) And when American authorities try to get Mexican border guards to stop a fleeing criminal, they just laugh at the idea and wave him on through!

I also found out that U.S. cops can't stop the thieves once they're on an interstate. So even if I alerted the authorities when my car was 20 or 30 miles from the border, when the cops catch up to the stolen car and order it to pull over, the thieves just laugh and keep on going, knowing American law enforcement can't stop them from reaching the border where their compatriots will wave them on through.
I would double check your info. Border Patrol can stop any car they want from going across the border. They do so all the time looking for guns or money returning to Mexico.
10-20-2011 08:14 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by alohagirl View Post
Downtown San Diego is only 17 miles from the Tijuana border crossing. If I set my Geofence wider than 10 miles, I'd be getting text alerts constantly every time I went anywhere. Entering Geofence...exiting Geofence...entering Geofence...
That makes a lot more sense. When I checked it out in google maps it said it was a 3 hour drive from the border. I guess traffic was worse than normal in google world.
10-20-2011 07:42 PM
jkaufman_95 Dang got deleted. Sorry barrie
10-20-2011 07:35 PM
Scharfschutze91 I'm crying from laughing so hard!
10-20-2011 06:55 PM
Scharfschutze91 I'm really sorry to hear about your Jeep... makes me wish even more that we could just blow all of mexico to kingdom come and rebuild... we all know they do it anyways already, why not help in their demise?
10-20-2011 06:49 PM
GoldenSahara00 I would use a large caliber boom stick if I wanted to stop them...

haha there are many ways to stop criminals, gosh if US gun laws weren't so tight...
10-20-2011 06:46 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by Cons_Table

Is this anything like a boom stick ?
I'm not sure. Stop sticks are used by Leo's to stop vehicles by slowly letting the air out of their tires.
10-20-2011 06:38 PM
Cons_Table
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 View Post
If the police stop them on the interstate they WILL stop them. They will use all means to stop that car before the border. They are called stop sticks
Is this anything like a boom stick ?
10-20-2011 06:19 PM
jkaufman_95
Quote:
Originally Posted by alohagirl

Downtown San Diego is only 17 miles from the Tijuana border crossing. If I set my Geofence wider than 10 miles, I'd be getting text alerts constantly every time I went anywhere. Entering Geofence...exiting Geofence...entering Geofence...

Turns out the Geofence is a moot point anyway. I was told this morning that American border guards aren't allowed to stop ANY cars going into Mexico, even the ones they know are stolen. (Some kind of international law violation.) And when American authorities try to get Mexican border guards to stop a fleeing criminal, they just laugh at the idea and wave him on through!

I also found out that U.S. cops can't stop the thieves once they're on an interstate. So even if I alerted the authorities when my car was 20 or 30 miles from the border, when the cops catch up to the stolen car and order it to pull over, the thieves just laugh and keep on going, knowing American law enforcement can't stop them from reaching the border where their compatriots will wave them on through.
If the police stop them on the interstate they WILL stop them. They will use all means to stop that car before the border. They are called stop sticks
10-20-2011 06:16 PM
alohagirl
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Originally Posted by oilwell1415 View Post
That said, why would anyone setup the alert to be sent within 10 miles of the border? That's just foolish. At that point there's less than 8 minutes to do something about it and that's not enough time to get the things done that need done.
Downtown San Diego is only 17 miles from the Tijuana border crossing. If I set my Geofence wider than 10 miles, I'd be getting text alerts constantly every time I went anywhere. Entering Geofence...exiting Geofence...entering Geofence...

Turns out the Geofence is a moot point anyway. I was told this morning that American border guards aren't allowed to stop ANY cars going into Mexico, even the ones they know are stolen. (Some kind of international law violation.) And when American authorities try to get Mexican border guards to stop a fleeing criminal, they just laugh at the idea and wave him on through!

I also found out that U.S. cops can't stop the thieves once they're on an interstate. So even if I alerted the authorities when my car was 20 or 30 miles from the border, when the cops catch up to the stolen car and order it to pull over, the thieves just laugh and keep on going, knowing American law enforcement can't stop them from reaching the border where their compatriots will wave them on through.
10-20-2011 03:52 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00

I figured with the name but you never know these days

and well, PA to mexico is a big drive but I bet we have more funs than the mexi's do here in the country

3 of them against 20 angry rednecks? hahaha.

but seriously, this sucks. good luck getting your wrangler back OP!
If they tried to steal mine here. It would be ugly.
10-20-2011 03:47 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 View Post
I agree with that. I would have torn outta there like a bat outta hell called my friend with the fastest car I could find and caught them. But no doubt they were armed. And btw the OP is a girl

I figured with the name but you never know these days

and well, PA to mexico is a big drive but I bet we have more funs than the mexi's do here in the country

3 of them against 20 angry rednecks? hahaha.

but seriously, this sucks. good luck getting your wrangler back OP!
10-20-2011 03:38 PM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00

It wasn't in an impound yard when the drug cartel had just stolen it
I agree with that. I would have torn outta there like a bat outta hell called my friend with the fastest car I could find and caught them. But no doubt they were armed. And btw the OP is a girl
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