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08-12-2013 09:40 PM
93YoJealous Wrangler owners check out other wranglers - the wave is a friendly "I was just checkin out your rig"...

I don't "wave" to all wranglers - only the ones I check out... lifted, accessorized and personalized.

With technology, people don't rely on strangers as much... and yes, personal safety probably plays a big roll in that.
08-12-2013 05:45 AM
RufBoy I drive a YJ and I wave to all other Jeeps (with removable tops). I have to say that it's usually only the CJs, YJs, and TJs that wave back. I rarely get a return wave from JKs, but I wave anyway. . As for stopping for other vehicles, I stop when possible and sometimes people are shocked. I broke down once with my motorcycle and nobody stopped (not even other motorcycles, so it's the same in other 'communities'). Finally, a woman stopped and asked me for directions and then left me there on the side of the road without asking if I needed help! Luckily, now a-days we have these things called cell phones (that we didn't have in the good-ol-days), so my son was already on his way.
07-28-2013 07:23 PM
99fenix i believe it is part trust and laziness. I make it a habit that IF i stop, I type their license plate in to the notes section of my iphone and black out the screen. If i die, there will be a clue. Oh and I carry my duty weapon everywhere.
07-28-2013 03:58 PM
whetstone I started driving jeeps before I got my drivers license, and through the years I've owned early style broncos, international scouts, and various trucks, any of which have a "community" around them. I never saw people get their feelings in a twist about someone not knowing their "rules" until the Internet came along. Coming from a small town, we wave to everyone no matter what they're driving, and we don't pick and choose who to help based on their vehicle...
07-28-2013 01:27 PM
Senior Chief Another thing (since this thread is still alive) is how long something has been considered popular. See the distribution of innovation curve for the science behind this point.

The "early adopters" are true enthusiasts, likely to want to now how their chosen vehicle works, and most tellingly, how to make it better. As you move through the early and late majority, you're more likely to come across individuals who never pop their hood. They may or may not feel a kinship with those who own the same vehicle . When you get to the laggards, you finally meet the hair-implant-gold-chain-spray tanned-911 driver...
07-28-2013 01:19 PM
Miser
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Originally Posted by 87_WhyJay View Post
I'm a NUBE to this forum, but I am not a NUBE to Jeeping. I have been driving my Wrangler for 13 years. It has gone from stock to modified. I just read the thread on the "Jeep Wave". Many years ago, that wave meant something between Jeepers and EVERY Jeeper waved at every other, WITHOUT FAIL!! What it used to mean was to assure each other that IF you need any help, I will be there to help you! Back then, you would never see any Jeeper drive past another jeeper stopped on the shoulder of the road without stopping to ask if help was needed. I find that less than 50% of the Jeepers wave these days which makes me worry, whether they would stop to render assistance if I needed it.

25 years ago, 90% of the Big Rig drivers were what I called the White Nights of the road and would stop to assist if the road permitted. Ten years ago, you would NEVER see a Jeeper drive past another Jeep stopped on the shoulder of the road, without stopping to see if they could help. Just the other day, I was on the shoulder reading my GPS, and two people driving Jeeps (I won’t even call them Jeepers) drove right past me without ever looking twice!

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEEPERS CODE? Has this country gotten so scared that even Jeepers won't stop to help another Jeeper? Are we so worried about our own problems, that we don't even concern ourselves with a fellow Jeeper that might need our help? Are we running scared because of 9-11? What's UP with this???


Anybody else getting the same felling these days?
I started with my first Jeep CJ5 back in 1976. Those of us that were into Jeeping back then, had the same common reason's for having a Wrangler!

I think that the major change took place, with the 4 door version being offered. That brought into the market place a totally different group of buyers, called Family. Many of them think differently and use their Wranglers to and from the grocery store as a example. Don't get me wrong, because there is nothing wrong with a 4 door or this type of usage, but rather different people with different priorities.
07-28-2013 11:19 AM
staticattic I've driven vehicles that belong to a "family" for quite awhile. My other 2 vehicles are a 1972 Super Beetle and a 2008 Honda Shadow. I never broke down on the bike, but whenever it was raining hard, I had interesting conversations with other bikers that had pulled under the same shelter I was under. I did stall out with my Bug a couple of times. Granted air cooled Bugs aren't as numerous as they used to be, but it would make me mad when one would drive past me just looking. And I never had issues with fellow Bug drivers or motorcycle riders not waving. In my tenure, I have stopped to help two stranded Bugs and a stranded guy on a Harley. The guy on the Harley had already called a truck so he thanked me for my time. One of the Bug drivers also thanked me for my time and assistance. The other Bug driver I stopped to help was a young teenager whose car was on fire. He had an attitude with me and told me not to help because he did not like the car to begin with and if it burned, his dad would have to buy him a new one. It was hard to sit there and watch a Bug with what started as a small engine fire eventually go up in complete flames.

Just my thoughts, but I think the fear of something bad happening is what keeps people from stopping. I like the idea if snapping a picture of the license plate. I am going to have to remember that one.

On the other side of the coin, my wife and I have made it pretty clear to my 19 year old daughter, if she breaks down somewhere (unless she is on the side of the interstate), she is to stay in the car and wait for one of us to get there. Although I am in agreement with what has previously been stated, most people are decent people that genuinely want to help, it is not something I am willing to risk my daughter's or my wife's safety on.
07-26-2013 04:58 PM
Senior Chief Welcome to the forum ...

If I see a Jeep or a Harley on the side of the road the following is true:

1. They will all be grateful I stopped

2. The older the Jeep/Harley the more likely they will be someone who could have fixed the problem if it were fixable given the tools at hand (and I drive a JK)

3. So far it's never been for anything stupid. Jeepers and Harley riders, in my experience, are smart enough not to run out of gas or to ride on the rim after a flat.
07-26-2013 04:27 PM
CaliforniaCJ5ER
*No more* JEEPER's CODE IN CALIFORNIA

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Originally Posted by 87_WhyJay View Post
I'm a NUBE to this forum, but I am not a NUBE to Jeeping. I have been driving my Wrangler for 13 years. It has gone from stock to modified. I just read the thread on the "Jeep Wave". Many years ago, that wave meant something between Jeepers and EVERY Jeeper waved at every other, WITHOUT FAIL!! What it used to mean was to assure each other that IF you need any help, I will be there to help you! Back then, you would never see any Jeeper drive past another jeeper stopped on the shoulder of the road without stopping to ask if help was needed. I find that less than 50% of the Jeepers wave these days which makes me worry, whether they would stop to render assistance if I needed it.

25 years ago, 90% of the Big Rig drivers were what I called the White Nights of the road and would stop to assist if the road permitted. Ten years ago, you would NEVER see a Jeeper drive past another Jeep stopped on the shoulder of the road, without stopping to see if they could help. Just the other day, I was on the shoulder reading my GPS, and two people driving Jeeps (I won’t even call them Jeepers) drove right past me without ever looking twice!

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEEPERS CODE? Has this country gotten so scared that even Jeepers won't stop to help another Jeeper? Are we so worried about our own problems, that we don't even concern ourselves with a fellow Jeeper that might need our help? Are we running scared because of 9-11? What's UP with this???


Anybody else getting the same felling these days?
I lost a drive-line at an intersection (u-joint straps broke), with another jeep behind me, he laughed and kept driving. Some guy in a Ford eventually stopped and offered ratchets and such. I now cannot wait to see the guy in the Neon Green YJ again.
11-04-2011 07:10 PM
Boulder City Boulders I notice the old-timers will wave. I have noticed many of the younger ones are texting or blabbing on the cell phone, they don't even see you. That is why I now have AAA, but I still wave to everybody, even if they are looking down at their phone.
11-01-2011 10:11 PM
Celtic Skype to a friend, give location, hang phone on collar or belt, stay on Skype until assistance is finished.
11-01-2011 10:02 PM
greenjeepgurl87
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Originally Posted by fan of fanboys

I think they were implying you send that picture via text or email to someone. I think.
11-01-2011 09:58 PM
jkaufman_95 still doesnt give a location, but a step in the right direction
11-01-2011 09:34 PM
fan of fanboys
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95

Yeah, but if they kidnap you... And your phones in your pocket... See where I'm going?
I think they were implying you send that picture via text or email to someone. I think.
11-01-2011 01:26 AM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by 87_WhyJay
Hey GJG87, I just thought of one even quicker than that...
I just got my first smart phone. I would say 90% of the phones out there have a camera. It would be that much quicker to just take the phone out, snap a quick pic of the car across the hood, and hang on to that until the assist is over and done with. No fumbling with dyslexia'ed keys.(yea, I got it bad) Just snap a pic and go. 3-5 seconds.

BUT, I also like JP2611's idea of making initial contact still in the drivers seat, in gear, ready to SPLIT if needed. Beats shooting them and having to answer to "THE MAN" about why you were there..
Yeah, but if they kidnap you... And your phones in your pocket... See where I'm going?
10-31-2011 10:29 PM
greenjeepgurl87
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Originally Posted by 87_WhyJay
Hey GJG87, I just thought of one even quicker than that...
I just got my first smart phone. I would say 90% of the phones out there have a camera. It would be that much quicker to just take the phone out, snap a quick pic of the car across the hood, and hang on to that until the assist is over and done with. No fumbling with dyslexia'ed keys.(yea, I got it bad) Just snap a pic and go. 3-5 seconds.

BUT, I also like JP2611's idea of making initial contact still in the drivers seat, in gear, ready to SPLIT if needed. Beats shooting them and having to answer to "THE MAN" about why you were there..
Very valid point!
10-31-2011 10:28 PM
87_WhyJay Hey GJG87, I just thought of one even quicker than that...
I just got my first smart phone. I would say 90% of the phones out there have a camera. It would be that much quicker to just take the phone out, snap a quick pic of the car across the hood, and hang on to that until the assist is over and done with. No fumbling with dyslexia'ed keys.(yea, I got it bad) Just snap a pic and go. 3-5 seconds.

BUT, I also like JP2611's idea of making initial contact still in the drivers seat, in gear, ready to SPLIT if needed. Beats shooting them and having to answer to "THE MAN" about why you were there..
10-31-2011 09:23 PM
jp2611 Frequently stop--but grew up in the "bad part of the 'hood" ---even the shady ones will treat with respect or (always have so far) if treated with respect.

But I usually pull alongside and holler out the window---let them take it from there. No pressure --no putting myself in dangerous situation unable to flee--if needed and not committed to staying--easier to go actually

If assistance is needed, and I am comfortable, I will than park the Jeep, and get tow strap or tools.

Jeepers code = Good Samaritan
10-31-2011 09:05 PM
greenjeepgurl87
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Originally Posted by 87_WhyJay

That is a great idea. I will remember that next time I help somebody.
its brilliant.
10-31-2011 06:42 PM
87_WhyJay
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Originally Posted by fan of fanboys View Post
So always use caution when approaching a stranger. But have some faith in your fellow man. Vast majority are good people.

When I stop to help someone before I get out I send quick text to wife with make/model/color of vehicle and license plate. Takes 20 seconds and gives police a lead if needed in a worse case type scenario.
That is a great idea. I will remember that next time I help somebody.
10-31-2011 10:24 AM
JIMBOX I was gonna post on this thread-but

I've changed my mind-

JIMBO
10-31-2011 10:16 AM
jkaufman_95
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Originally Posted by daggo66

Sorry, I didn't realize it was you.
It was a yj daggo
10-31-2011 08:09 AM
fan of fanboys So always use caution when approaching a stranger. But have some faith in your fellow man. Vast majority are good people.

When I stop to help someone before I get out I send quick text to wife with make/model/color of vehicle and license plate. Takes 20 seconds and gives police a lead if needed in a worse case type scenario.
10-31-2011 08:07 AM
fan of fanboys
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Originally Posted by Siren Assassin
Then why are places like Vegas at a all time high with crime lately? Not exactly less crime when its one of the highest in the country. How can that be lower? Lol
Omg lol. Wish I could live without facts like you.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/05...ix-key-reasons

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...963761,00.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime..._United_States

In 2009 America's crime rate was roughly the same as in 1968, with the homicide rate being at its lowest level since 1964. Overall, the national crime rate was 3466 crimes per 100,000 residents, down from 3680 crimes per 100,000 residents forty years earlier in 1969 (-9.4%).[1]


http://www.racematters.org/youthcrim...nemediaopp.htm

First, the news media report crime, particularly violent crime, far out of proportion to its actual occurrence. While the national crime rate dropped by 20 percent from 1990 to 1998, there was an 83 percent increase in the amount of crime coverage on network television. During the same time period, the national homicide rate was down by almost 33 percent; yet network news coverage of homicide jumped 473 percent. Homicides account for about .1 percent to .2 percent of all arrests in America, yet approximately 28 percent of all crimes reported on the nightly news are homicides.


Lol
10-31-2011 07:12 AM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 View Post
i had one guy tell me to f*** off. I apologized and remember what his jeep looks like so next time I won't be helping him if he really needs it.
Sorry, I didn't realize it was you.
10-31-2011 07:04 AM
Siren Assassin Then why are places like Vegas at a all time high with crime lately? Not exactly less crime when its one of the highest in the country. How can that be lower? Lol
10-31-2011 04:33 AM
fan of fanboys In actuality America is safer than ever and we have less crime. No safer time to stop and help somebody. What's changed is the coverage of crime. Didn't have twenty 24 hour news channels in 1950. We see and hear more than ever before.
10-31-2011 04:30 AM
gixxerphil
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Originally Posted by greenjeepgurl87 View Post
Oh no I take the jokes, they amuse me, but that's cuz I'm not just some jerk who bought one to 'look cool' you know those jerks that should have just bought a hummer. Lmao

I actually learned tonight while looking for stuff on craigslist...they made a tactical H3
10-31-2011 04:28 AM
greenjeepgurl87 Oh no I take the jokes, they amuse me, but that's cuz I'm not just some jerk who bought one to 'look cool' you know those jerks that should have just bought a hummer. Lmao
10-31-2011 04:26 AM
gixxerphil
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Originally Posted by greenjeepgurl87 View Post
For the record, mine actually has seen what its like to go offroad. I wave to other jeeps, and I fully intend to mod her the hell out and she will NOT be a mall crawler. No no Lol

Iz sorry that was a poor attempt at bringing the funneh
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