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05-17-2010 09:35 AM
AfterMath Probably roughly 3300 lbs.
05-17-2010 09:28 AM
Lowrollin12
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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
Read through the thread you just posted to

From what I've gathered...absolute minimum = twice the load you are recovering.

So if you're recovering a 4,000 lb vehicle, you want a tow strap rated at MINIMUM 8,000 lbs...preferably higher.
I got the x2 the weight of what you are working with but with my 99 TJ 4cyl. what would be a good idea to have when offroading with other tj, yj's?

Also what the hell does my TJ weigh... I have no idea!
05-16-2010 10:22 PM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by Lowrollin12 View Post
Ok so what size/strength recovery strap do I need? And what size d-rings?
Read through the thread you just posted to

From what I've gathered...absolute minimum = twice the load you are recovering.

So if you're recovering a 4,000 lb vehicle, you want a tow strap rated at MINIMUM 8,000 lbs...preferably higher.
05-16-2010 06:58 PM
Lowrollin12
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Originally Posted by HyperBuzzin View Post
You don't want a TOW rope, you want a RECOVERY strap. There's a difference. Tow ropes don't stretch, recovery straps do.


It's a small strap that goes around a tree instead of a winch cable going around a tree. The winch cable attaches to the tree saver so the tree doesn't get damaged from the winch cable.
Ok so what size/strength recovery strap do I need? And what size d-rings?
05-14-2010 03:40 PM
HyperBuzzin
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Originally Posted by Lowrollin12 View Post
ok so let me get this straight... I am welding a new bumper on my jeep with weld through shakel points... what size (rating) should I have and what size tow rope for recovery will I need to be safe?

I dont want to be cheep on this one....
You don't want a TOW rope, you want a RECOVERY strap. There's a difference. Tow ropes don't stretch, recovery straps do.

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Originally Posted by RoSs View Post
OK NEWB QUESTION!!!!!!!! Whats a "tree saver"
It's a small strap that goes around a tree instead of a winch cable going around a tree. The winch cable attaches to the tree saver so the tree doesn't get damaged from the winch cable.
05-14-2010 03:39 PM
Ageless Stranger It's a strap you wrap around the trunk of a tree so you can winch off of it without hurting the tree.
05-14-2010 03:26 PM
RoSs OK NEWB QUESTION!!!!!!!! Whats a "tree saver"
05-14-2010 02:56 PM
Lowrollin12 ok so let me get this straight... I am welding a new bumper on my jeep with weld through shakel points... what size (rating) should I have and what size tow rope for recovery will I need to be safe?

I dont want to be cheep on this one....
12-17-2007 09:39 PM
nicolas-eric that was an elastic strap that extends 25%. it´s made for towing like that.
12-17-2007 08:59 PM
debruins nico whoever broke that strap is stupid waht wea have been saying is that you will be fine as long as youj dont jerk, that guys clearly jerked that, like at leasst a five foot head start before he started pulling!
thats jsut dumb!
12-17-2007 08:30 PM
nicolas-eric when i´m in the mud with some other jeepers we use to pull us out with a strap because that´s faster than a winch.
i always attach a strap to the front tow hook and put the other end through the passenger side window. and another strap comes on the rear tow hook and through the rear softtop window. on that way i can throw the strap to my friend who is outside the mudhole without leaving my TJ.
i use two elastic 40 feet 30.000 lbs straps for that.

when i´m stuck in sand i often use the winch. in sand my clothes can´t get dirty like in mud...

i use non-elastic straps only to extend the winch line.
12-17-2007 08:03 PM
Darton Sorry if i'm dumb on the issue. Do you basicly only use a strap to pull out of mud??
12-17-2007 08:01 PM
nicolas-eric with a strap and another offroader i´m out of a mudhole in 1-2 minutes. with a winch it needs much longer.
12-17-2007 07:25 PM
Darton Is a strap as important to have when you have a winch??
12-17-2007 07:21 PM
nicolas-eric btw. here you can see what can happen with a small 15.000 lbs (7 ton) recovery strap. i don´t want to think what would happen if the metal hook flies around with the rope.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtuO-Mh9Lg&NR=1

i prefer elastic 30.000 lbs recovery straps.
12-15-2007 09:37 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by jherrin215 View Post
I bet it is a pain to find some standard bolts in Germany!!
Nope, pick up the phone, have 'em shipped over from Milwaukee! 2 weeks and $50 shipping later, there you go, right as rain! Unless of course, you ordered the wrong size, or you wind up one short...
12-15-2007 09:30 PM
jherrin215 I bet it is a pain to find some standard bolts in Germany!!
12-15-2007 09:20 PM
MR.CLIFFORD Royale wit cheese!
12-15-2007 09:11 PM
nicolas-eric i live in germany in the center of europe. everything is metric over here, except the damn bolts on my jeep...




Long Tons (UK): A long ton is a British measurement and equivilent to 2,240 pounds. Not to be confused with the US "short ton".

Short Tons (US): United States measurement also known as a short ton that equals 2,000 pounds.

Metric Tons (or Tonnes): A unit of weight equal to 1,000 kilograms, or 2,204.6 pounds.
12-15-2007 09:09 PM
silvergoat So is a quarter pounder really a quarter pounder? Or are they not telling the truth at McDonalds?
12-15-2007 09:06 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
Oh, and 30000 lbs = 15 tons.
He's using those metric tons!
12-15-2007 09:03 PM
silvergoat 2000lbs per ton, 30000lbs =15 tons. And you will bend and break alot of other things before that hitch pin will break.
12-15-2007 08:57 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
my calculator says: 14 tons = 30,864 lbs

http://www.metric-conversions.org/we...etric-tons.htm
alright alright. We are both right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton

"short ton (usually called simply ton, in the USA or sometimes called a net ton) = 2,000 lb (about 907.18474 kg)."
12-15-2007 08:45 PM
nicolas-eric
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
Oh, and 30000 lbs = 15 tons.
my calculator says: 14 tons = 30,864 lbs

http://www.metric-conversions.org/we...etric-tons.htm
12-15-2007 08:40 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
i use 30.000 lbs (14 tons) recovery straps.

Oh, and 30000 lbs = 15 tons.
12-15-2007 08:36 PM
MR.CLIFFORD I trust the hitch pin more than I trust single shear bolts on the front tow hooks. I also trust that hitch pin to keep my junk on the back of my truck. I don't use the cheap push through with a little clip. I go for these so I know they won't come out of the receiver.



For good measure you can see my recovery point well in this picture.

12-15-2007 08:30 PM
nicolas-eric cheap tires, cheap lockers, cheap suspensions are ok.
but with cheap and undersized recovery tools you can injure or kill other people.
that´s not a funny thing.
if this little pin breaks the hitch receiver becomes like a projectile.

i use 30.000 lbs (14 tons) recovery straps. and one strap broke when i was stuck in 2-3 feet deep mud and a friend tried to tow me out with his unimog 417.
12-15-2007 08:10 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
I bought the strap when i had a 1 ton on 40's at the time it was what was safe to buy.Didn't see any reason to throw it away so it's the jeep strap now
They can keep their weakling little straps. They won't do much good to pull anyone out when they are split in 2. I use a 27k rated strap. It has worked flawlessly for the past 4 years and never once did I think I should have got a smaller strap.
12-15-2007 07:27 PM
distortedtj
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Originally Posted by TeeJay View Post
When using a tow strap the actual forces applied are from the strap stretching and contracting. A 30,000lb strap with a wrangler might as well be a chain. It'll pull people out. but your jeeps going to have to do all the work.

It's like lifting everything with your back when you could've used your legs. It'll still move, but at what cost?

2x the vehicle weight is a very good rule to follow.

Off topic: Sng, how long have you been sitting on those photos? that's like the third one today.


I bought the strap when i had a 1 ton on 40's at the time it was what was safe to buy.Didn't see any reason to throw it away so it's the jeep strap now
12-15-2007 01:22 PM
debruins heres my logic as to the recovery point on the hitch,
a lot fo people use winches that they can transfer formt eh fornt to the back and use a 2" hitcha s the receiver for it, so if it can pull with a winch formt here it should be fine if you doa nice ven smooth pull, just no jerking or anyhting!
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