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09-11-2012 08:10 AM
SlackerMD when i ordered from QT, I received one of the first versions that did not have the easily identifiable fronts & rear markings, so the only problem i had was placing a front door unit on a rear door, which was easily switched out.

and their support was great.
09-11-2012 08:07 AM
SlackerMD
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Originally Posted by Ivoryring View Post
I'm wondering if I got the alignment of the drilled door-side holes wrong, since I'm right at the limits. StarFab themselves have been very helpful. They did indicate they have a redesign coming that uses the same drilled holes but doesn't require alignment at all.
I just put my doors back on again yesterday and the alignment is still spot on, so maybe you are right and the drill template was off?
09-10-2012 12:32 PM
Lowerumble Thanks for the all the info. I have been looking at getting a set of these. Did they mention when this redesign might be available?
09-10-2012 09:29 AM
Ivoryring I'm wondering if I got the alignment of the drilled door-side holes wrong, since I'm right at the limits. StarFab themselves have been very helpful. They did indicate they have a redesign coming that uses the same drilled holes but doesn't require alignment at all.
09-10-2012 08:11 AM
SlackerMD my doors are off (and back on) pretty often, and i have had no alignment issues at all with them. i simply bolt them back on center of frame-mounted studs and they work perfectly each time.
09-09-2012 03:33 PM
Ivoryring I got the replacement kit from StarFab last week. Just installed today. Driver side rear requires alignment on the door jamb bracket all the way to the limit to close smoothly. Passenger side rear won't close smoothly even with alignment all the way to the limit. I had to leave the door mounting bolts loose in order to get the door to close smoothly. Waiting on suggestion back from StarFab on next step.

SlackerMD, what are you doing when putting your door back on? At this rate I'm definitely second guessing myself - may not put the front set on at all.
08-29-2012 07:51 AM
SlackerMD I have had no problems with alignment after doors off. The only problem i had was a popped ball bearing in my original set, which they promptly replaced. no problems so far about a year later.
08-28-2012 06:35 AM
Ivoryring I got a set of 4 for my JKU, installed the rear two on Sunday (ran out of time and patience to complete all 4) - when I first put them in, they did the proper 'detent', but Sunday night when putting the soft top back up after a mild offroad run I noticed they were just 'resistance', not 'detent'. I emailed StarFab about it, assuming I just had the alignment wrong and wanting directions to fix - they emailed back and said the arm jumped the track and damaged the arm The positive thing is they will send me a replacement kit and I can send the bad ones back - and they said to call and they can walk me through the alignment on the phone (that is good customer service in my mind!). The mixed bag is that this must happen often enough that they know the symptoms immediately.

I've been looking at the setup trying to figure out how to DIY an alignment jig or gauge, but it's beyond my skill.

Has anyone had problems with alignment of the Star Fab after going doors-off?
06-28-2012 06:11 PM
igivup I was glad to read this update on these door stops, as I just ordered a set myself. I am curious to know if I can get away with a 1/58" hole saw, or do I need to go out and purchase a 1/34".
Thanks.
04-09-2012 10:01 AM
Hatt-Attack I bought Star Fab door stops last week and installed on front doors over the weekend. Happy to report that they work as well as stock door stops on other 2 vehicles when parked on my driveway, which is about a 20 degree incline. They will not hold the door open when fully extended , but do hold them open when on the half way point (same as other 2 cars). They look stock when installed too which is nice, and as previously mentioned only involve removing 2 additional 10mm nuts to take doors off. Took about 1.5 hours to install front doors from start to finish. Going to install back doors tonight.
04-02-2012 04:30 PM
Hatt-Attack Even better, I did mention that I returned them in my original post. Classic.
04-02-2012 04:27 PM
Hatt-Attack
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX
heh Heh, YUP. why buy an air tire, when it might go flat-

QUOTE=Hatt-Attack;2211039]You should not have to mod a mod whose sole purpose is to keep your door open. If it were prettier maybe worth considering - but when function fails out of the box why bother unless you really have to have it that bad. Figured sooner or later somebody would design one that works as it should and hopefully Star Fab is it.
You're saying it's better to buy something and bitch aboutit--rather than fixit !

You must have a ball off-road !

JIMBO[/QUOTE]

Aha - a misunderstanding now that I read it again. I returned the armadillo product to quadratec for full refund after I installed first one and found it didn't work. Guess this bit of info was important regarding my original question.
04-02-2012 03:52 PM
Hatt-Attack You know me better then I know myself with those 9000+ expurt post I guess.

So anyway, anyone who has, or knows somebody, with a Star Fab who has parked it on a fairly steep hill know if it actually holds the door open, straight out of the box?
04-02-2012 03:09 PM
JIMBOX heh Heh, YUP. why buy an air tire, when it might go flat-


QUOTE=Hatt-Attack;2211039]You should not have to mod a mod whose sole purpose is to keep your door open. If it were prettier maybe worth considering - but when function fails out of the box why bother unless you really have to have it that bad. Figured sooner or later somebody would design one that works as it should and hopefully Star Fab is it. [/QUOTE]

You're saying it's better to buy something and bitch aboutit--rather than fixit !

You must have a ball off-road !

JIMBO
04-02-2012 02:06 PM
Hatt-Attack You should not have to mod a mod whose sole purpose is to keep your door open. If it were prettier maybe worth considering - but when function fails out of the box why bother unless you really have to have it that bad. Figured sooner or later somebody would design one that works as it should and hopefully Star Fab is it.
04-02-2012 01:02 PM
JIMBOX To bad more of you weren't a little more inovative--

My ARMADILLOs, work fine 90% of the time and when the "HILL DEMANDS" more closure resistance--

I've modified mine so they will take 30° +++ and stay open--takes maqybe 5 sec to add the plastic "keeper"--

Course I usually modify all my modifications anyway-kinda routine !

JIMBO
04-02-2012 12:27 PM
Hatt-Attack
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Originally Posted by bo9roadking View Post
As I posted in this thread last November, I have the Smart Door Stops. They work at holding open my JKU doors just like a normal car. I don't have any complaints.

Yes, but the plot has thickened since November wisdom imparted - No mention how they worked when parked on a (20 degree) hill. The Armadillo’s work great on flat service, but huge disappointment on a hill where my other 2 cars have no problem with their stock door stops. I would think most people considering adding these items probably in a situation like mine - regularly parked on a hill.
04-02-2012 10:28 AM
bo9roadking
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Originally Posted by Hatt-Attack View Post
Anyone have feedback on how to the Star Fab Smart Door Stops work when parked on say a 20 degree incline? My driveway is on a hill and how that the jeep is lifted it's harder than ever for kids to get in without doors wanting to eat them. I tried Armadillo and agree with most that they suck, did practically nothing when parked on driveway and looked like some kind of orthodontist appliance to boot. They were quickly returned, but since this install involves permanent modification though prudent to ask.
As I posted in this thread last November, I have the Smart Door Stops. They work at holding open my JKU doors just like a normal car. I don't have any complaints.
04-02-2012 08:18 AM
Hatt-Attack Anyone have feedback on how to the Star Fab Smart Door Stops work when parked on say a 20 degree incline? My driveway is on a hill and how that the jeep is lifted it's harder than ever for kids to get in without doors wanting to eat them. I tried Armadillo and agree with most that they suck, did practically nothing when parked on driveway and looked like some kind of orthodontist appliance to boot. They were quickly returned, but since this install involves permanent modification though prudent to ask.
11-15-2011 11:22 AM
SlackerMD Agreed...i installed my Smart Doors about a month ago and they have been great. My first door took about 30 minutes going very slowly...the subsequent doors each took about 10 minutes including cleanup. The templates they provide for marking the drilling points are spot-on so i had ZERO issues with the install.

As mentioned above, you just have to make sure to put the rear assemblies on the rear and the front assemblies on the front and on the proper side of the vehicle...it's not rocket science.

As far as removing the doors...it takes a whopping 30 seconds per door maximum.

These things are SUPERB quality, and the company owners are EXTREMELY supportive and communicative, which is something you can't beat.
11-14-2011 06:22 AM
bo9roadking
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Originally Posted by Blstravler View Post
Has anyone installed these as of yet?

JKFD - Star Fab Smart Door Stops for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK Front - Quadratec

Have to have some surgery on my right arm and I'll be in a cst/sling for a few months after. Thinking these will be a huge help getting in and out of the Jeep every day. I've looked into the Billet ones but they getting crap reviews.
I have had these installed on my JKU front and back for about 2 months. They are great and now work like my car's doors. If you want to remove a door, it only takes removing two 10mm nuts on the body side of the bracket in addition to the normal door removal process.

You need to be careful that you don't mix up the left and right side brackets when installing them. They look the same except for having a small 'R' or 'L' stamped on them. If you install the wrong one, the door won't open correctly and you might damage the bracket while opening the door.

Other than being hesitant to drill holes into my new Jeep as part of the install, everything installed fairly easily. Now that I broke the ice with drilling into my Jeep, using my cutting and grinding wheels, sawzall, and getting some welding done to make other Jeep mods was easy.
11-14-2011 03:45 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by SeaComms View Post
Cause the stupid pen pushing rule makers down here will not recognise that the doors were designed to be removed and offer no protection. All the rules down here state they must have side protection, yet the JK doors offer none. You get both a fine and a defective vehicle notice in the one hit. And since the vehicle is deemed not roadworthy it can not be driven from where you get booked until the doors are re fitted and then the vehicle has to be taken to an inspection station where they go over everything...

Have been quite a few test the rules and although one has succeeded that was only because the amount of info and regulations he threw at the court in his defence was basically too much for the judge to bother reading through and let him off. And that was down south in Victoria, in Queensland where I am no one has beat the charge yet.
Well that sucks. if ever there was a country that I thought Jeeps should be doorless in, would've been Australia.

Sounds like you guys need to kick a little legislative ass.
11-14-2011 02:28 AM
SeaComms
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
EDIT: why can't you take the doors off? If there was ever a country for doorlessness, it'd be Australia. In my mind, anyway. Other than Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth...crap, guess I'm pretty much eating my foot, eh mate?
Cause the stupid pen pushing rule makers down here will not recognise that the doors were designed to be removed and offer no protection. All the rules down here state they must have side protection, yet the JK doors offer none. You get both a fine and a defective vehicle notice in the one hit. And since the vehicle is deemed not roadworthy it can not be driven from where you get booked until the doors are re fitted and then the vehicle has to be taken to an inspection station where they go over everything...

Have been quite a few test the rules and although one has succeeded that was only because the amount of info and regulations he threw at the court in his defence was basically too much for the judge to bother reading through and let him off. And that was down south in Victoria, in Queensland where I am no one has beat the charge yet.
11-13-2011 07:50 AM
Benjy
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Might be different, I can open my doors 25" with mine and I don't normally have to go any wider--

If I have to, just flip the keeper snap and open as wide as the strap will let you !!

I said the Star Fabs look pretty kewl, but my Armidillos are OK !

JIMBO
I can still squeeze through there, my issue is that I've been opening the door a certain width since January, now 11 months later I'm restricted from opening quite as wide. If I crack my funny bone more than a few times, I'll be putting these up for sale. If they were installed new, I wouldn't be concerned. Wish the connecting rod were just a 1/2" longer or so. Maybe they could make it adjustable!
11-13-2011 03:01 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by SeaComms View Post
I like the Starfab ones and they are on my to-do list, have been looking at them for a while. They have a detent to stop the door halfway and also allow the doors to open further than stock (stock strap is extended by about an inch to cope) and they are easily disconnected to if door removal is desired (irrelevant to us down here as we cant legally remove the doors anyways).
Agreed install is a little more involved but I think well worth it.
I actually like the Starfab capabilities more than the Armadillos, except for three factors:

1. I don't wanna drill koala-sized holes (okay, that's an unfair cultural exaggeration) in my doors.

2. I don't have an engineering degree from Cornell. Just from reading the directions, the Starfabs seem very unforgiving in terms of installation...whereas the Armadillos are basically plug 'n play, no tunneling.

3. (most important): I have a set of the armadillos, but didn't wanna use em cuz I thought they couldn't be easily disco'd...till Rick schooled my dumba$$.

EDIT: why can't you take the doors off? If there was ever a country for doorlessness, it'd be Australia. In my mind, anyway. Other than Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth...crap, guess I'm pretty much eating my foot, eh mate?
11-13-2011 02:31 AM
SeaComms I like the Starfab ones and they are on my to-do list, have been looking at them for a while. They have a detent to stop the door halfway and also allow the doors to open further than stock (stock strap is extended by about an inch to cope) and they are easily disconnected to if door removal is desired (irrelevant to us down here as we cant legally remove the doors anyways).

Agreed install is a little more involved but I think well worth it.
11-12-2011 11:21 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
How hard would it be to know out that pin on the swivel side? I ask because a quick release pin would make for a easy disco. Maybe something like this




You know what, man? You just answered my question. You can't see it in my original photo, but the stock pin has a 3/16 (prob metric, since it's a little loose) hex head, and is easily removable. Never noticed it before now.

Damn, I'd put these bad boys on the shelf cuz I couldn't figure out how to remove them w/out unscrewing the mounts from either the door or the foot well.

Feelin pretty retarded at this point, but a GOOD retarded.

Thanks.

Here's a pic to satisfy your curiosity:

Attachment 77323
11-12-2011 10:49 PM
rics1997 How hard would it be to know out that pin on the swivel side? I ask because a quick release pin would make for a easy disco. Maybe something like this

11-12-2011 10:42 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
Heh Heh, thats true and it takes about 10 seconds to disco the "sliding rod for full door opening-
JIMBO
Jimbo: How do they disco? I bought a set of these, but didn't install them because of the same concerns some other folks have pointed out...didn't feel like I could open the doors far enough to justify putting them on...and I've got body armor doors for the summer and would like to be able to switch them out with the OE doors fairly painlessly. Looked to me like I'd have to unscrew things to change the doors out.

Also, I definitely don't wanna drill the tunnels for the Star Fabs in my doors, just for door stops. Rather let my doors swing wild, if that's the way it's gotta be.

The armadillos are easy enough to install, but the "directions" suck and don't really explain how to disconnect them. What am I missing?

Attachment 77303
11-12-2011 09:48 PM
Dogface Guess I haven't figgered that out yet ...
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