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05-05-2014 01:24 PM
The Jeep Driver
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Originally Posted by TheTJRod View Post
This is a guide to installing an aftermarket radio and 4 speakers for the TJ. Install was done on my 2003.
Thanks TheTJRod for the great write-up! Very helpful.

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Originally Posted by Tjmike003 View Post
Does this "install" really merit a write-up. It's pretty easy.
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Problem solved. Seriously, what a jerk...

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Originally Posted by xTITANx View Post
Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there....
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfcoursecrawler View Post
x2
Same issue here....

Quote:
Originally Posted by wedu22 View Post
Did your new stereo not come w/a metal sleeve? ...
I did a quick search - wrangler forum: bracket missing for radio install
and found an older post on another forum that may help:

A few questions regarding after market radio installation... - JeepForum.com
The link only asks the question of what to do, didn't provide any answer that I saw.

For those of you who addressed the DIN sleeve, I did not think the sleeve did enough to keep the unit from moving in an up-down manner. Day-to-day driving maybe, but definitely not while off-roading. I found an old bracket laying around that would fit the bolt on the back on the unit. (Metal strap available at a hardware store would work better.) Used a 5 mm - 80 coarse thread nut to secure it and the grounding strap. Not pretty, but it works. I attached it to the defrost duct with a self tapping screw.

01-16-2014 09:09 AM
lk2dson Ok, I'm going to reply, but you have to know that I am truly no expert or professional. I'm just a guy with a voltmeter pretending he knows what to do with it. There are a ton of people on here that I am quite certain will know a whole lot more than I pretend to know.

I believe that the antenna power wire from your Kenwood is what is needed to power the amp power wire for your factory subwoofer. If you can use your factory radio, try to identify exactly which +12v wire goes to your Sub Amp. On your factory harness plug, more than likely, you will have the 8 front and rear speaker wires on one half of your factory harness, and power and ground on the other side. Your factory amp power wire will likely be on the side of the harness with the other power wires. The way you have it wired right now makes me suspicious that the amp wire you have from your Kenwood may not be +12v powered wire you are looking for.

The first step is to identify the factory amp power wire in the factory harness (you may have already done this). Next is to identify the +12v power wire on the Kenwood harness that only comes on when your Kenwood is turned on. Chances are, this will be that blue antenna wire from the Kenwood harness.

As far as the sound bar, I don't believe that my factory wiring on my 06LJ had the sound bar going through the amp. When my amp and sub were not working, I had sound from the dash and sound bar. The sound bar is definitely the "rear" speakers.

I sure hope this helps you. Post up if you get it working.
01-15-2014 12:44 AM
Tippy
Quote:
Originally Posted by lk2dson View Post
I just installed a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT into a 2006 LJ. I ran into the issue so many of you have mentioned above about the factory sub not working after the radio replacement. I've included some notes below for how I identified the factory sub amp wire, in case it might help someone else.

I've had this Jeep since it rolled off the factory floor, so I know that no one has screw dinked around with the dash wiring. The wire colors in the factory radio harness do NOT entirely match what they should be according to the factory service manual, or any of the documentation at Crutchfield's or Pioneers support. There is no blue wire with a white stripe, nor is there a white wire with a blue stripe in my factory harness.

I ended up reverse engineering the wire harness to identify the wires on the factory harness, then match them with the wires on the adapter for the new radio. Half of the harness is for the factory speakers. The other half has to do with power. I plugged in the factory radio, then identified the +12v power wire, the ignition power +12 wire, and ground. On the aftermarket adapter, there was a blue wire, but the Pioneer harness did not have anything to connect to this blue wire. As a test, I connected the factory radio, verified that the factory sub was working. Then snipped the corresponding factory wire that was mated to the unused blue wire in the adapter harness. WHALLA! The radio kept working, but the sub quit. Probably not the best way to do this, but it worked. I tested and verified the voltage of this wire to be +12v when the factory radio was turned on. Once I identified this correct wire, and confirmed that it mated to the blue wire in the aftermarket harness adapter, I knew I had the wire that ran the factory sub amp. I then spliced the wire back together, leaving the factory harness in tact.

Because the Pioneer deck harness did not have a Power Antenna wire, I had to connect the factory amp wire in the adapter harness to the ignition power cable wire in the harness adapter. This way the amp would get power anytime the Pioneer radio had power.

Works great, sounds... about the same as my factory radio (still have factory speakers). BTW... I had to replace the factory radio because I use my Jeep for what it was intended for (evil grin), so the factory radio has seen too many occasions of getting completely soaked!! Since we haven't completely destroyed the LJ, we are actually cleaning up the Jeep and making it a nice Jeep again. We'll still wheel it, but mainly just mild trails and sand dunes.
Do your factory "sound bar" speakers work off the same amp as the factory sub? I just put a new deck in and the sub and rear speakers aren't working. My Kenwood came with a blue wire and a blue w/ white chaser wire. The blue/white is for an amp, while the solid blue is for an antenna. My wire factory harness adapter had a solid blue wire labeld "antenna" so I hooked the two solid blue wires together. Now I have no sub or sound bar speakers. Everything else matched up and works fine. I figured the overhead speakers were just "rear".

Sad part is I had the blue w/ white and blue hooked together once, then noticed they didn't match and cut them apart! I will try your trick and see how it goes in the morning!

Thanks.
12-21-2013 07:48 PM
lk2dson Hey, I thought I should post an update...

The jumper I did with the ignition wire... bad idea. See my other post above. After sitting in the garage for several days, the battery would slowly drain to dead.

There was a blue wire on the included Pioneer wire harness labeled "Wired Remote". I assumed that this was for a remote control that was wired to the head unit. Apparently I assumed incorrectly. This wire should be labeled "Wired Remote Antenna"... meaning, the wire you would use to power a remote antenna that powered up and down when the radio was on or off. I tested this "Wired Remote" wire, and when the radio is off, there is no voltage. When you power the radio on it has a +12V power. I cut the tag off the end of the wire, and connected it to the power wire for the subwoofer amplifier... and WHALLA!! It actually works. Sitting idle in the garage for over a week doesn't drain the battery.

Anyway, I thought this might be some pretty important information to pass along after my incorrect post above. I hope this helps.
11-13-2013 12:04 AM
ChasUGC
Quote:
Originally Posted by xTITANx View Post
Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there. When I opened it up, there was a wire bolted to the back of the stock stereo with a wire to the frame(I am guessing it's to the frame as I couldn't see exactly). Not having that bracket there makes it impossible to stabilize my new deck. It's just leaning over inside the open space. It also could be ripped out fairly easy.

Anyone know why the bracket isn't there? Is it a early model thing? Can I have one put in?
The aftermarket radio should have a sleeve. The sleeve has prongs on it that would be secured to the kit on the one din conversion. Nowadays, the radio's just have a threaded hole in the back of them for securing a bracket. You have to find the right size short threaded screw. You may have to string together multiple brackets, if you want to do it that way. And, then trying to secure it directly to the firewall might be difficult because the air system blocks the direct route to the firewall, and you may have to make a hole. Or, you can try to secure the bracket to the hole for the radio ground. I gave up trying to secure the bracket.

I brought the kit myself and used the prongs on my sleeve. This is the modern way. My installer didn't have the kit, so I brought it myself. Especially after this stupid installer sprayed adhesive all around my radio and EQ. The adhesive ruined my EQ and I had it replaced under the store warranty since they sent me to their installer. I got the kit and a new EQ and installed everything properly.
11-12-2013 11:55 PM
ChasUGC
Quote:
Originally Posted by lk2dson View Post
I just installed a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT into a 2006 LJ. I ran into the issue so many of you have mentioned above about the factory sub not working after the radio replacement. I've included some notes below for how I identified the factory sub amp wire, in case it might help someone else.

I've had this Jeep since it rolled off the factory floor, so I know that no one has screw dinked around with the dash wiring. The wire colors in the factory radio harness do NOT entirely match what they should be according to the factory service manual, or any of the documentation at Crutchfield's or Pioneers support. There is no blue wire with a white stripe, nor is there a white wire with a blue stripe in my factory harness.

I ended up reverse engineering the wire harness to identify the wires on the factory harness, then match them with the wires on the adapter for the new radio. Half of the harness is for the factory speakers. The other half has to do with power. I plugged in the factory radio, then identified the +12v power wire, the ignition power +12 wire, and ground. On the aftermarket adapter, there was a blue wire, but the Pioneer harness did not have anything to connect to this blue wire. As a test, I connected the factory radio, verified that the factory sub was working. Then snipped the corresponding factory wire that was mated to the unused blue wire in the adapter harness. WHALLA! The radio kept working, but the sub quit. Probably not the best way to do this, but it worked. I tested and verified the voltage of this wire to be +12v when the factory radio was turned on. Once I identified this correct wire, and confirmed that it mated to the blue wire in the aftermarket harness adapter, I knew I had the wire that ran the factory sub amp. I then spliced the wire back together, leaving the factory harness in tact.

Because the Pioneer deck harness did not have a Power Antenna wire, I had to connect the factory amp wire in the adapter harness to the ignition power cable wire in the harness adapter. This way the amp would get power anytime the Pioneer radio had power.

Works great, sounds... about the same as my factory radio (still have factory speakers). BTW... I had to replace the factory radio because I use my Jeep for what it was intended for (evil grin), so the factory radio has seen too many occasions of getting completely soaked!! Since we haven't completely destroyed the LJ, we are actually cleaning up the Jeep and making it a nice Jeep again. We'll still wheel it, but mainly just mild trails and sand dunes.
Most radio's have a remote wire. This is the wire that you use to connect to the amp for powering it. If not then the ignition wire turns the amp on at all times when the car is started, instead of just when the radio is on. The ignition wire is not the best solution, but it is an alternative.

The power antenna wire is not a good choice at all. Some people had this problem because the amp and sub only worked when the radio sent power to the antenna, and this was only when the FM/AM source was selected. Therefore, they got no power to the amp or sub for the CD or any other source except AM/FM.

Good catch on the sub wire though. I had trouble with identifying the factory wiring too. I just ran all new wires for all my speakers, and identified the radio ground and radio power wires with an electrical tester.
11-12-2013 11:44 PM
ChasUGC
Quote:
Originally Posted by xTITANx View Post
yeah there was a sleeve but it's not exactly stable and there's nothing besides the wires preventing someone from yanking it out.

anyone know if I can buy the mount? I haven't been able to find it online.
The best thing to do is to get a radio with a removable face. This removes interest in thieves because they have to find and purchase a face for the radio before they can sell it. They also have to identify the exact model of the radio, and spend $35 dollars to get maybe $50 dollars street value. Not much profit and too much effort for a thief and they know it.

The metal bracket is no deterrent. They will just destroy your console even more getting it out. They also smash your window.
11-12-2013 08:58 PM
lk2dson I just installed a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT into a 2006 LJ. I ran into the issue so many of you have mentioned above about the factory sub not working after the radio replacement. I've included some notes below for how I identified the factory sub amp wire, in case it might help someone else.

I've had this Jeep since it rolled off the factory floor, so I know that no one has screw dinked around with the dash wiring. The wire colors in the factory radio harness do NOT entirely match what they should be according to the factory service manual, or any of the documentation at Crutchfield's or Pioneers support. There is no blue wire with a white stripe, nor is there a white wire with a blue stripe in my factory harness.

I ended up reverse engineering the wire harness to identify the wires on the factory harness, then match them with the wires on the adapter for the new radio. Half of the harness is for the factory speakers. The other half has to do with power. I plugged in the factory radio, then identified the +12v power wire, the ignition power +12 wire, and ground. On the aftermarket adapter, there was a blue wire, but the Pioneer harness did not have anything to connect to this blue wire. As a test, I connected the factory radio, verified that the factory sub was working. Then snipped the corresponding factory wire that was mated to the unused blue wire in the adapter harness. WHALLA! The radio kept working, but the sub quit. Probably not the best way to do this, but it worked. I tested and verified the voltage of this wire to be +12v when the factory radio was turned on. Once I identified this correct wire, and confirmed that it mated to the blue wire in the aftermarket harness adapter, I knew I had the wire that ran the factory sub amp. I then spliced the wire back together, leaving the factory harness in tact.

Because the Pioneer deck harness did not have a Power Antenna wire, I had to connect the factory amp wire in the adapter harness to the ignition power cable wire in the harness adapter. This way the amp would get power anytime the Pioneer radio had power.

Works great, sounds... about the same as my factory radio (still have factory speakers). BTW... I had to replace the factory radio because I use my Jeep for what it was intended for (evil grin), so the factory radio has seen too many occasions of getting completely soaked!! Since we haven't completely destroyed the LJ, we are actually cleaning up the Jeep and making it a nice Jeep again. We'll still wheel it, but mainly just mild trails and sand dunes.
10-29-2013 12:23 PM
xTITANx
Quote:
Originally Posted by wedu22 View Post
xTITANX.
Did your new stereo not come w/a metal sleeve? Most new stereo's do come with a sleeve these days and that would have given the support your possibly looking for. My last install had the sleeve and once I button up all the tabs its was real secure.

I did a quick search - wrangler forum: bracket missing for radio install
and found an older post on another forum that may help:

A few questions regarding after market radio installation... - JeepForum.com
yeah there was a sleeve but it's not exactly stable and there's nothing besides the wires preventing someone from yanking it out.

anyone know if I can buy the mount? I haven't been able to find it online.
10-16-2013 01:12 PM
wedu22 xTITANX.
Did your new stereo not come w/a metal sleeve? Most new stereo's do come with a sleeve these days and that would have given the support your possibly looking for. My last install had the sleeve and once I button up all the tabs its was real secure.

I did a quick search - wrangler forum: bracket missing for radio install
and found an older post on another forum that may help:

A few questions regarding after market radio installation... - JeepForum.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by xTITANx View Post
Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there. When I opened it up, there was a wire bolted to the back of the stock stereo with a wire to the frame(I am guessing it's to the frame as I couldn't see exactly). Not having that bracket there makes it impossible to stabilize my new deck. It's just leaning over inside the open space. It also could be ripped out fairly easy.

Anyone know why the bracket isn't there? Is it a early model thing? Can I have one put in?
10-11-2013 07:17 PM
xTITANx bump
10-09-2013 05:21 AM
golfcoursecrawler
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtitanx View Post
hey guys, i bought a 99 tj and i put in a new stereo today. The problem i'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there. When i opened it up, there was a wire bolted to the back of the stock stereo with a wire to the frame(i am guessing it's to the frame as i couldn't see exactly). Not having that bracket there makes it impossible to stabilize my new deck. It's just leaning over inside the open space. It also could be ripped out fairly easy.

Anyone know why the bracket isn't there? Is it a early model thing? Can i have one put in?
x2
10-09-2013 02:30 AM
xTITANx Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there. When I opened it up, there was a wire bolted to the back of the stock stereo with a wire to the frame(I am guessing it's to the frame as I couldn't see exactly). Not having that bracket there makes it impossible to stabilize my new deck. It's just leaning over inside the open space. It also could be ripped out fairly easy.

Anyone know why the bracket isn't there? Is it a early model thing? Can I have one put in?
10-03-2013 01:53 AM
golfcoursecrawler I recently bought my TJ and the stereo seems kind of messed up.
I have an aftermarket Alpine stereo which is completely loose and does not have a proper dash kit around it. Also, the front speakers don't work at all, instead there are two more in the boot which don't make any sense to me...

I bought a dash kit and an AUX-cable that will go on the back of the unit. Because the stereo is so loose, I suspect that the little bolt that connects the stereo to the back mount is gone. I want to buy one before taking everything apart.

What is the exact size of the bolt that connects the stereo to the back mount?

Thanks
09-30-2013 09:15 PM
silverrubi does anyone have a clue why my sub keeps blowing fuses? It has an after market head unit in it...thanks K.C.
08-26-2013 01:50 PM
Perkolater
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Originally Posted by Big Sarge View Post
That is the connector for the rear view mirror with temp/compass in it.
OK Cool.

08-26-2013 12:18 PM
Big Sarge
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Originally Posted by Perkolater View Post
First off, I used your instructions to swap out the radio in my "new" 04 TJ. THANKS! One question though. When I pried off the top part of the dash, I found a white connector that had nothing plugged into it. What is it used for? You can see it in your second picture on the dash removal section.

Thanks!
That is the connector for the rear view mirror with temp/compass in it.
08-26-2013 08:28 AM
Perkolater First off, I used your instructions to swap out the radio in my "new" 04 TJ. THANKS! One question though. When I pried off the top part of the dash, I found a white connector that had nothing plugged into it. What is it used for? You can see it in your second picture on the dash removal section.

Thanks!
07-06-2013 11:20 AM
denissoltis
Climate Control THANX!

I used your article to replace my Climate Control.and I might as well install a new Stereo since it is all apart...THANX
05-29-2013 07:23 AM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by Partsdude74 View Post
Is there anything to protect the new stereo system from dust &/or dirt?
I don't fully understand your question. Really the only thing you could do to combat that is to get marine grade components. As they are built to a higher standard and have protections from moisture incorporated into the designs. Also clean often.
05-28-2013 08:05 PM
Partsdude74 Is there anything to protect the new stereo system from dust &/or dirt?
04-16-2013 03:21 PM
Madden Cut and tested the wire today and it's dead, I'm thinking I might just pay someone the $50 to put it in for me instead of having to deal with the hassle of running new wire to it.
04-15-2013 01:19 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by Madden View Post
I was getting a very faint sound from it for a while but yeah, now it's not working. I was thinking about cutting the adapter off and just manually wiring it to the speaker to see if that helped but I'd rather not cut off the adapter if I dont have to
Don't worry about cutting off the connector. You will most likely never go back to the stock speakers and virtually all auto aftermarket speakers use the same spade connectors so you shouldn't have to worry about needing to replace it later. Also you could save the stock connector to re-solder back on if you ever need to down the line.
04-15-2013 01:15 PM
Madden
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTJRod View Post
My thoughts are you may have accidentally pulled the wire loose inside the connector or you may have a short or broken wire. If you want to test the wire you will need a multimeter. Ask if you want the steps on how to test the wires


I was getting a very faint sound from it for a while but yeah, now it's not working. I was thinking about cutting the adapter off and just manually wiring it to the speaker to see if that helped but I'd rather not cut off the adapter if I dont have to
04-15-2013 11:43 AM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by Madden View Post
Alright so ran into another problem, I finally got around to replacing the soundbar speakers and the left one works fine but now the right one doesn't work at all, even with the stock speaker plugged in. It was working fine up until I plugged in the new speaker and now nothing.
My thoughts are you may have accidentally pulled the wire loose inside the connector or you may have a short or broken wire. If you want to test the wire you will need a multimeter. Ask if you want the steps on how to test the wires

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Originally Posted by srwatersh20 View Post
Ok, so stupid question i am sure... But, i connected everything right to my Sony MEX BT4100P from Quadratec, i am not getting ANY AM/FM signal. Everything on the Stereo works great, bluetooth, phone, lights, cd, ipod, pandora, but no AM/FM... I think it has something to do with the Antenna wire, but i dont know what the problem is. Help would be greatly Appreciated.
Like posted make sure you have the right antenna plug for your radio. Did you buy it from Crutchfield and/or did you have an antenna adapter?
04-14-2013 11:07 PM
Madden I had to purchase a separate adaptor to hook my antenna up to my stereo, don't know if that's your problem but here's the link to it.

Link
04-14-2013 06:16 PM
srwatersh20 Ok, so stupid question i am sure... But, i connected everything right to my Sony MEX BT4100P from Quadratec, i am not getting ANY AM/FM signal. Everything on the Stereo works great, bluetooth, phone, lights, cd, ipod, pandora, but no AM/FM... I think it has something to do with the Antenna wire, but i dont know what the problem is. Help would be greatly Appreciated.
04-12-2013 08:42 PM
Madden Alright so ran into another problem, I finally got around to replacing the soundbar speakers and the left one works fine but now the right one doesn't work at all, even with the stock speaker plugged in. It was working fine up until I plugged in the new speaker and now nothing.
04-11-2013 09:24 AM
TheTJRod I didn't mean to insult you in any way if I did. I worked in IT for a time and you would be surprised how many people call in that sound smart and missed an easy detail.

That is very odd if it works for one thing but not another. I would consult Kenwood as it is a feature of the radio. Some radios have separate volume controls for different modes.
04-10-2013 10:49 PM
Bangert
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Originally Posted by TheTJRod View Post

A quick check is to make sure your fade and balance are centered.

I am assuming you are talking about the roll bar speakers. Well if the only thing you changed is the radio, I will have to say either the radio is bad or a wire is not connected. If you used crimp connectors on the wires I would double check they are tight with enough insulation striped off the wires as they can come loose when reinstalling the radio.

If you're talking about add on speakers you're going to have to describe how they are wired for me to be able to help.
Lol I'm smart enough to check fade and balance I've figured out that the roll bar speakers work when I plug my USB in, but not over Bluetooth.
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