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12-04-2011 10:08 PM
Dgrimjeeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixxerphil View Post
You feel free to send that thing down South any time you want
Go find your own
12-04-2011 10:01 PM
gixxerphil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgrimjeeper View Post


Phil, I know you'll like the last pic since the 79 is in the frame...

You feel free to send that thing down South any time you want
12-04-2011 10:00 PM
Dgrimjeeper Altogether it took about 2 1/2 hours with the cleaning and the coffee break!

This top was not a huge deal, or a mod, or something fancy but I love it when something gets done right the first time without any fuss.

With a second person this was extremely simple and easy, like it should be.
Thanks for all the advice and help on this thread! I am a happy man because of it!
12-04-2011 09:56 PM
Dgrimjeeper Then installed the bolts and the small top brackets and tightened them down a little at a time... once slightly snug I tightened them like the bolts on a wheel... alternating sides and corners across the rails.

The only problems that I encountered doing this was the back bolts and the top wouldn't fit 100% at first. The holes were not perfectly parallel unless my helper leaned on the edge of the hardtop when I first got the bolt through the side rail. After that it worked fine. Other then these bolts, it was all easy peasy...

Dusted both sides of the wiring harness, plugged it in as well as the windshield washing fluid connection... tried it out and they worked like a champ.

Now the Jeep is ready for winter! Bring on snowmageddon!




Wooo hoo!
12-04-2011 09:45 PM
Dgrimjeeper Then using my extra help I flipped over the hardtop, put on the weatherstripping... flipped it over again, opened the back window and lifted it over the spare and placed it on the rails, readjusted the grip, and moved it up the rails to position it for the bolts....

Took a tiny break to keep my young nephew from stealing my jeep... lol got to start them early... overheard comments like "...you better not get my son addicted to jeeps like you" ... and "Oh man, I can just see what he'll ask for at his next birthday..."



12-04-2011 09:37 PM
Dgrimjeeper Once the items were off, I cleaned up the leftover dirt and debris that was trapped underneath the hardware in question...

Yay dirt

12-04-2011 09:34 PM
Dgrimjeeper Then I backed up the jeep right to where the top was sitting... and proceeded to take off the supertop hardware.

The normal... bolts and brackets.





Phil, I know you'll like the last pic since the 79 is in the frame...

Each bolt / washer / item went into a labeled bag and then into the winter box destined for the garage...
12-04-2011 09:26 PM
Dgrimjeeper So I took JDs idea and scrubbed out the top one more time to make sure that the mold would not come back and then set to work getting the top on.

After looking around online I did not find find any negative information about the hardtop and 3M Fiberglas. So I fixed the small crack with 3 (albeit small) separate layers of Fiberglas both on the inside and outside. Didn't have a single problem with this at all... The crack hardened up and it seems to be holding just fine... let's see how it holds over the course of the winter.

A week later on my first day off I went to put on the hardtop...

First I took off the soft top windows, skin, and the full doors just to get this install started.





Ok, I'll admit it. I drove around the neighborhood one more time with the top off... for no real reason
11-27-2011 10:41 PM
gixxerphil True
11-27-2011 10:39 PM
Dgrimjeeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixxerphil View Post
When you're done you are more than welcome to drive down and clean mine
Ha You wish... besides who's got time to drive nowadays!
11-27-2011 10:33 PM
gixxerphil When you're done you are more than welcome to drive down and clean mine
11-27-2011 10:32 PM
Dgrimjeeper Thanks Phil I'll get this done one way or another!
11-27-2011 10:07 PM
gixxerphil Looks good Dgrim
11-27-2011 07:37 PM
Dgrimjeeper
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Originally Posted by JDsDream View Post
I'm not sure if Simple Green will kill the mold or mildew and chances are that it will return. If you find that you need to go over it one more time, try a mild solution of chlorine bleach and water (specially on the inside). This will insure that the mildew smell will be gone for good. After you're done, you can spray it back to black with Krylon Fusion in satin or semi-flat black to make it look like new.
Great advice on the mildew aspect and loading the top. I'll run a solution like that over the inside this week on my day off.

I know that I'll have to repaint this thing sometime and I've seen someone post finished pictures of a quick referb. I'll do it but it's getting too cold for the paint to stick where I live. I guess repainting will be a spring project when I pull the top off, but I appreciate the heads up on that.

This is why I freaking love this forum... so many good ideas without the constant flame wars. Now if only the rest of my world would be this easy.
11-27-2011 07:25 PM
JDsDream I'm not sure if Simple Green will kill the mold or mildew and chances are that it will return. If you find that you need to go over it one more time, try a mild solution of chlorine bleach and water (specially on the inside). This will insure that the mildew smell will be gone for good. After you're done, you can spray it back to black with Krylon Fusion in satin or semi-flat black to make it look like new.

To put mine back on, I have a friend help me. I back the Jeep up as close as I can get to the top. We position the front corners of the top on the rear part of the rails. Then I climb into the bed and with my friend holding up the back, I walk the front forward on my back until it is in position.
11-27-2011 07:13 PM
Dgrimjeeper
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Originally Posted by Kilroy View Post
I found a product called PC-11 that I used to fill some holes in a hardtop. It seemed to adhere well to the top material. It is made by PC products in Allentown Pa.
Sweet... I'll take a look, and I'll do a quick double check online to see what kind of info I can find on this whole topic.

Thanks again for for the quick heads up
11-27-2011 07:11 PM
Dgrimjeeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by tj00wrangler View Post
The four bolts should actually be 6. One at each corner and two in the middle. I use to remove and install my hard top myself. I stored it on the ground which made it more difficult to lift.
I found 2 bolts in the box the PO gave me... They didn't have these hinges attached like the other four, but these bolts looked as if they were the same size and manufacture. Are these the ones for the middle?

They look like they would be it... are these middle bolts just that? Bolts?
11-27-2011 07:06 PM
Dgrimjeeper Can you tell where I was scrubbing?


Clean


Not Clean


Done


Simple basic preventive maintenance in about an hour... I just had to keep dumping the water.

Even though black water may be a subject for an interesting classic rock song, it's still a sub-par cleaning agent...
11-27-2011 07:05 PM
Kilroy I found a product called PC-11 that I used to fill some holes in a hardtop. It seemed to adhere well to the top material. It is made by PC products in Allentown Pa.
11-27-2011 06:52 PM
Dgrimjeeper So... I used the most simple technique known to man... water and a bucket for the first interior wash.

Then I used a diluted mixture of simple green / water for the second application about 1 part green 5 parts water and went over the areas that had excess buildup with the old tooth brush to scrub out the mold and embedded dirt. The normal, dip the brush, scrub for 5-10 seconds, dip again, scrub, try not to think of the water rolling down your arm etc. I think it went rather well.
11-27-2011 06:47 PM
Dgrimjeeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterDR View Post
I always use two people.... No sense getting hurt or dropping the top.

I have also never had to replace weather stripping either.

What do you plan to use to clean it?

Well, I plan to use simple elbow grease, some basic watered down simple green, a sponge and an old tooth brush!

Thanks for the extra thoughs on the camper idea, and I'll double check the Fiberglas...
11-25-2011 11:49 AM
timithye Get help, I have the same year jeep with soft and hard tops. I tried to take the top off myself one year and was successful, but I would not do it again. Not too heavy, just big and bulky. My wife has helped take it off, but she is not so much help putting it on. A person on either side will make it a 5 minute job after the soft top is removed.

You should have six bolts with rectangular nuts to attach the top to the tub. The nuts may even have this little plastic shroud which will snap onto the tub frame and hold them in place while you drop the bolts through. Make sure you take off the door surrounds (if a supertop has them) prior to trying to put the hard top on. Open all the doors also while moving the top into position.
11-25-2011 09:55 AM
Leeroy Jeepkins
11-25-2011 08:56 AM
Wazzick Leeroy, I just wanted to voice that I appreciate your handle.
11-25-2011 08:33 AM
Leeroy Jeepkins Hit the gym. Squats and shoulder presses help. Be careful. Mine slipped once and I was fortunate enough not to break anything. The back part with the glass is the heaviest(duh!).I open my tailgate all the way,crawl in,push the roof back until there is about 2" left on the rail. Then I climb out so I am standing up and this is where the shoulder presses help. I push up and move away from the jeep and kind of spin a bit to clear the tire/tailgate(this is the point of no return and where I also dropped mine). Good luck. Lol
11-25-2011 06:47 AM
Kilroy I do not think the tops are fiberglass. Or maybe the resin is not the same as used on a car body or boat. You may want to research this before you patch the crack.
11-25-2011 01:01 AM
roket10r I removed and re-installed the hard top on a CJ many times and never had a problem with slippage or dropping the top.I guess being tall and not a couch potato helps.
11-24-2011 07:06 AM
WaterDR I always use two people.... No sense getting hurt or dropping the top.

I have also never had to replace weather stripping either.

What do you plan to use to clean it?
11-24-2011 12:53 AM
gixxerphil
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Originally Posted by Neil F.

Don't use that. You are putting it on every year for a reason, because it sticks to the tub and tears.
Mine has never been torn when I took it off
11-23-2011 11:05 PM
tj00wrangler The four bolts should actually be 6. One at each corner and two in the middle. I use to remove and install my hard top myself. I stored it on the ground which made it more difficult to lift.
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