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04-30-2013 01:30 PM
jeepers29 Thanks guys!
04-30-2013 12:12 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
I took the skid plate off; it takes an extra 5 minutes to do so and gives you much more room, I don't think I'd want to leave it on.

To support everything, I typically put a jack stand in the area you described.
x2. I removed my t-case though. As it is even easier when you have it on a workbench. Also check that you can shift it into every position before you seal it up and then again before you fill it with oil. You don't want to find out you put something on wrong/backwards and it doesn't shift into 4wd after you filled it with oil.
04-30-2013 09:06 AM
geiman I took the skid plate off; it takes an extra 5 minutes to do so and gives you much more room, I don't think I'd want to leave it on.

To support everything, I typically put a jack stand in the area you described.
04-30-2013 09:04 AM
jeepers29 To the guys that did the SYE, with the trans case still in the jeep. Can I leave the skid plate installed or does it need to come off? If it needs to come off, where do you support the tranny at? Where the bell housing mates to the engine block? Thanks for your help.
04-05-2013 03:50 PM
jeepers29 Subsribed for near future use.
12-22-2011 04:59 PM
geiman Sounds good man, good luck!
12-22-2011 04:55 PM
BadPenny
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
Also keep in mind both of the brackets I talked about are to be used with a Johnny Joint so if you are planning on using another trac bar (other than the Currie one) you may need to use a different bracket depending on the width of the joint/bushing.
Thanks geiman,
I emailed Gerald and he recommended the CE-9123 which I think has the bolt on bracket??

I'll see if the RC has interference issues first.
12-22-2011 02:37 PM
geiman Also keep in mind both of the brackets I talked about are to be used with a Johnny Joint so if you are planning on using another trac bar (other than the Currie one) you may need to use a different bracket depending on the width of the joint/bushing.
12-22-2011 02:36 PM
geiman Did you read through that thread? I only say that because I believe that question was asked and answered there. If I find it I'll link it here. But, I'm sure you are able to; if you call or email Gerald at Savvy or someone over at Currie they could hook you up.

I can't say for sure, but I would guess you could even use the standard bolt on bracket you can buy separately on Currie or Savvy's site if you are unable to weld.
12-21-2011 06:56 PM
BadPenny
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Originally Posted by geiman
I'm a big fan of the Johnny Joint, and as such I'd recommend the new trac bar from Currie/Savvy. You can read about it here:

New Design Rear Track Bar! - JeepForum.com

The bracket it comes with needs to be welded on (I believe) but you can't get a better trac bar than that IMO.
I saw the TB but did not see the bracket on their site? Is there a PN fir the bracket?
12-20-2011 07:30 PM
geiman I'm a big fan of the Johnny Joint, and as such I'd recommend the new trac bar from Currie/Savvy. You can read about it here:

New Design Rear Track Bar! - JeepForum.com

The bracket it comes with needs to be welded on (I believe) but you can't get a better trac bar than that IMO.
12-20-2011 07:28 PM
BadPenny So after I get pinion angle set, I'll need to pull coils and check at full bump for binding?
If it does is there a certain trackbar/bracket recommendation?
12-20-2011 01:09 PM
geiman Typically your trac bar will get put into a bind, so a bracket is required. You can always see how it is after you adjust for your pinion angle, but I'm guessing it will get in a bind at some point. I've got a bracket on mine for now, but my next step is to 4-link the rear and get rid of the trac bar completely.
12-20-2011 10:39 AM
TheTJRod You need adjustable control arms, but as to requiring a relocation bracket for the track bar. Haven't heard of that, though I have only done my own and don't have a rear track bar anymore. If you have to point your pinion up alot I could see how it would put a twist on your trackbar bushings.
12-20-2011 10:27 AM
BadPenny Hey Guys, I have another question.
I'm installing the AA SYE / TW DS package from Savvy.

Currently have an RC adjustable trackbar on the rear. Will I need to modify this with the SYE/DS installation. I thought I read some where that I might need to do something like add a relocation bracket or something due to interferrence issues?
12-19-2011 02:49 PM
DgonzTj My suspension came with replacement LCA's both front and back. I currently have HD adjustables up front but the stocks in the back
12-19-2011 01:44 PM
ipleadda2nd When I did my 3" suspension lift I started with adjustable lower front/rear CAs. After the install I realized adjustable upper front/rear CAs were in order.

Adjustable lower CAs and factory upper CAs:
You can shorten the lower CAs to tune in the pinion angle. Depending on your lift, I'm not sure if you can shorten them enough. However, you're shortening your wheelbase in the process. Which is pulling the front tires into the rear of the wheel well. When you're flexing and got the steering wheel turned you may rub.

Adjustable upper and lower CAs
Now you can tune in your pinion angle and correct for wheelbase.
12-19-2011 10:16 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by DgonzTj View Post
i see the reason for everything minus the rear upper control arms.... i do have front UCA's but thats because I bent the stocks
Then you have no idea why you need either the SYE or CV Shaft nor what their purpose is. Read this to figure that out:

What is a CV shaft and why do I want one? - JeepForum.com

You'll definitely need adjustable rear upper control arms, and if you want to correctly set things up you'll want to get the rear lower arms as well.
12-18-2011 10:36 AM
nick50471 You must have rear UCA's to adj pinion angle for the CV driveshaft
12-18-2011 10:19 AM
DgonzTj i see the reason for everything minus the rear upper control arms.... i do have front UCA's but thats because I bent the stocks
12-17-2011 11:11 PM
nick50471 Well then your fist mod should be to ditch the worthless TC drop buy a UCF Ultra High Clearance Transfercase skid, SYE/CV driveshaft and adj. rear UCA's. This will transform your rig from a low riding earth scraper to a high clearance stump jumper.
12-17-2011 08:38 PM
DgonzTj bought my jeep with the lift already on... has the TC drop, about an inch or so from the looks of it.
12-17-2011 05:28 PM
BadPenny
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Originally Posted by TJDave

^ This. Makes no sense to lift and lower. Unless the Jeep is only used for shopping.
Yeah...I agree. I'm putting a high clearance TC skid on so the SYE is necessary. I hate the stock skid.
12-17-2011 04:12 PM
TJDave
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Originally Posted by nick50471 View Post
If you don't have a TC drop yes you must have a SYE. You will have bad driveline vibes and destroy ujoints on a regular basis. A TC drop is also a dumb idea because it totally defeats the purpose of the lift.
^ This. Makes no sense to lift and lower. Unless the Jeep is only used for shopping.
12-17-2011 03:58 PM
nick50471 If you don't have a TC drop yes you must have a SYE. You will have bad driveline vibes and destroy ujoints on a regular basis. A TC drop is also a dumb idea because it totally defeats the purpose of the lift.
12-17-2011 03:51 PM
DgonzTj I have a 4" lift on 33's and was recommended i get a SYE but what is the benefit of having one and do I ACTUALLY need it with my setup?
12-16-2011 05:17 PM
ipleadda2nd When I did mine I kept the t-case on the vehicle and used tall jack stands. I can't see how accessing the top 2 nuts to remove the t-case is easy at all.

However, I wish I had removed the t-case so I could have replaced my leaky tail shaft seal in my auto tranny.
12-16-2011 04:32 PM
TJDave After fighting with and breaking a couple cheapo pairs of pliers, I also went to the Matco tool guy. (I know where he lives. ) I installed it while in the Jeep with the back end supported by large jackstands. Plenty of room. I broke the collar where the pick up tube fits in the oil pump, by not being careful.



12-16-2011 03:08 PM
BadPenny
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Originally Posted by jaybird3c View Post
one thing i would recommend is when your putting on the slip yolk eliminator kit make sure the gasket material is on correctly. i know it sounds stupid but it get pretty thin on the bottom side and it would suck to have to pull it apart cause it leaks. also i would make sure your angle match, do you have adjustable control arms or cam bolts for upper control arms?

Adjustable CA's
12-16-2011 02:58 PM
jaybird3c one thing i would recommend is when your putting on the slip yolk eliminator kit make sure the gasket material is on correctly. i know it sounds stupid but it get pretty thin on the bottom side and it would suck to have to pull it apart cause it leaks. also i would make sure your angle match, do you have adjustable control arms or cam bolts for upper control arms?
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