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12-30-2011 08:31 PM
MisterScott I have the Kimber Crimson Carry. Love it. Can't imagine carrying a SW500 and firing from the inside of the Jeep. I keep a FN 5.7 with two 30 round clips in my big truck.
12-30-2011 07:59 PM
KSCRUDE
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Originally Posted by Rabblerouser View Post
Heel Yeah! I have a spring gun pointed at the driver window in case someone tries to 'jack me. It shoots automatically when the window goes down. I used to have a crossbow lying on the backseat but my kid jumped out at an intersection and ran off with it. I knew I should have buckled that rascal in.
It would be stupid and dangerous to roll any window down if someone tries to "jack you". I will waste em right through the glass. Glass is cheap! My life isn't. And I carry a arsenal to do it with. Just ask daggo. He ought to see what my wife packs!
12-30-2011 06:45 PM
Rabblerouser
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Originally Posted by KSCRUDE View Post
My pistols lay right behind the console, loaded and ready to go! In a locked box they are useless in a real life and death situation. My 12 gauge defender sits on the floor in the cargo liner right behind the front seats. Loaded and round in the chamber, 18 inch barrel so I can reach back and have it in seconds. Taures judge in my pickup loaded with triple ought buck and special disc and buckshot mix. Every other one style. 12 gauge is double ought buck, then slug in alternating fashion. All my guns are always loaded as it always the unloaded gun that accidentally shoots someone. There is very little crime where I live, very seldom lock my vehicles. All our pickups set at work and we never lock them, and keys are always in the ignition.
Heel Yeah! I have a spring gun pointed at the driver window in case someone tries to 'jack me. It shoots automatically when the window goes down. I used to have a crossbow lying on the backseat but my kid jumped out at an intersection and ran off with it. I knew I should have buckled that rascal in.
12-30-2011 03:56 PM
basecamper
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
You need to unscrew the bracket holding the seat electrical connections, then zip-tie the electrical cables to the underside of the seat, off to the side. Bracket stays off. Best bet is to snip the little plastic push screws that hold the bracket and cable connections together with wire cutters...it's kind've a pain trying to pry them loose without any decent leverage.

You'll see what I mean when you do it.
I just installed my Tuffy drawer and actually on my 2012 4 door there is a mount on the seat just unscrew the bracket remove the plug and remount to the seat no zip ties needed
12-30-2011 03:05 PM
Roadhawg
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Originally Posted by rockjock1 View Post
While that's fine and dandy-it's also, IMHO, irresponsible as a gun owner. I carry everywhere I can (legally). And when times arise that I can't (recruiter station, county jail, grandmas house)-I need to lock my gun away securely. I have several options that I currently use and trust-and have tested myself. One of the first things is-don't draw attention to people walking by that there is something of value to be had in the first place. Leaving a grout in plain view-just a bad decision (again-IMHO). And certain states-even with a ccw-that's a felony charge if you're stopped/inspected.
Exactly.......
12-30-2011 02:50 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by Budphoto View Post
Anyone heard of one that will fit the 2012 JK? or a different solution? The seat has a bar across the bottom that won't allow this to be installed. This is because of the tilt seat.
Sorry budphoto...missed your last sentence first time around. Since the JK's front seat has the slide/tilt feature, they don't make em for the JK (at least Tuffy and Bestop don't...maybe there's something else out there).

The bracket removal thing I posted above is for 4-doors.
12-30-2011 02:48 PM
kbwwolf This is the bracket (yup, I'm a packrat):

Attachment 86417
12-30-2011 02:40 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by Budphoto View Post
Anyone heard of one that will fit the 2012 JK? or a different solution? The seat has a bar across the bottom that won't allow this to be installed. This is because of the tilt seat.
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
I thought somebody figured out a solution to that? Isn't it the same issue in the 2011s?

Some kind of bracket or something . . . maybe just removed the bar? I can't recall.
You need to unscrew the bracket holding the seat electrical connections, then zip-tie the electrical cables to the underside of the seat, off to the side. Bracket stays off. Best bet is to snip the little plastic push screws that hold the bracket and cable connections together with wire cutters...it's kind've a pain trying to pry them loose without any decent leverage.

You'll see what I mean when you do it.
12-30-2011 02:35 PM
3JKs1H1
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Originally Posted by the rock99 View Post
I have a S&W 500 with 8 3/8" barrel and it easily fits in the Tuffy box.
That will not fit in the Bestop box.

Edit, you need to remove a small wiring bracket in the '12 JKU to get the box to fit, easy.
12-30-2011 02:12 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by Budphoto View Post
Anyone heard of one that will fit the 2012 JK? or a different solution? The seat has a bar across the bottom that won't allow this to be installed. This is because of the tilt seat.
I thought somebody figured out a solution to that? Isn't it the same issue in the 2011s?

Some kind of bracket or something . . . maybe just removed the bar? I can't recall.
12-30-2011 02:11 PM
Budphoto Anyone heard of one that will fit the 2012 JK? or a different solution? The seat has a bar across the bottom that won't allow this to be installed. This is because of the tilt seat.
12-30-2011 01:48 PM
JeeperJake Had mine in since about mid-September. No rattles. No complaints.

Did change out the lock/key for a combination unit. That was a fun install.

And it takes a bit to see let alone reach position to SEE the #s given my geezer parts...but still prefer it to the extra key issue.
12-30-2011 11:38 AM
MTH
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Unless I've read it wrong, I think the people with the noise issue are locking the door when empty. That means they are leaving it open. The way the box is designed, there is no way to close it and remove the key with the door unlocked. Therefore my drawer is always closed and locked. Could that be the issue?
Could be. Wouldn't the drawer slide open during hard stops though?

I also wonder whether some folks are installing it by putting both tabs under the seat supports. That would put it at an angle that could be causing a subtle left-to-right shift over bumps and the like, and change the way gravity pulls on the roller hinges.

It also may be that some of the sticky tabs fall off over time or aren't in the right spot.

Looking at the design though, I almost can't believe I couldn't fix a rattle if I put my mind to it, unless it was within the lock mechanism itself. Beyond that, there's just not much to the design of the box. Might end up eating those words someday though . . . .
12-30-2011 11:31 AM
daggo66 Unless I've read it wrong, I think the people with the noise issue are locking the door when empty. That means they are leaving it open. The way the box is designed, there is no way to close it and remove the key with the door unlocked. Therefore my drawer is always closed and locked. Could that be the issue?
12-30-2011 11:31 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
Following up on the rattle issue noted by some folks, like Daggo and others who've posted here, I can't here a sound out of my Bestop box. I paid close attention last night and today on my commute on account of what was said here--nothin'. Given it's only been installed for a few days, but so far it's doing great.
Can't imagine it's gonna get much looser...really, how much stress is applied to it? I think your frugality paid off.

Some Jeeps leak. Most don't.
Some folks like fruitcake. Most don't.
12-30-2011 11:28 AM
MTH Following up on the rattle issue noted by some folks, like Daggo and others who've posted here, I can't here a sound out of my Bestop box. I paid close attention last night and today on my commute on account of what was said here--nothin'. Given it's only been installed for a few days, but so far it's doing great.
12-29-2011 09:45 PM
Up Hill Bill
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Originally Posted by Vince1 View Post
Looks familiar...same revolver I store in my Tuffy...but the Plus model.

Edit: damn..just realized that was my previously posted picture you lifted Bill! I knew it looked familiar.
Yeap! I stole your Tuffy photo to compare with my Bestop with a similar revolver (6-shot vs. 7-shot, otherwise same) to show an accurate comparison.

I'd have given you credit if I had remembered where I got it!

But, a belated thanks for the photo
12-29-2011 09:09 PM
terminator012 I got the wife one for her JKU for Christmas. Installation was simple. So far there has been no rattles what so ever out of it. Holds a Glock 19 and a S&W .38 very easily.
12-29-2011 08:42 PM
basecamper
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Then why the arsenal?
x2
12-29-2011 08:32 PM
shell
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Never a sound out of mine..
same here....I've been driving around with mine since last March....no rattles...no noise whatsoever...even with stuff inside.

Mine is completely covered by my seat since I have it almost all the way forward so I can reach the pedals.....
12-29-2011 08:27 PM
Vince1
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Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill View Post
Main difference I've found between Bestop, which I have, and Tuffy, which I wish I had, is how far the drawer opens for access.

Here are photos of a Bestop

Tuffy:
Attachment 86230

Looks familiar...same revolver I store in my Tuffy...but the Plus model.

Edit: damn..just realized that was my previously posted picture you lifted Bill! I knew it looked familiar.
12-29-2011 08:20 PM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by KSCRUDE View Post
My pistols lay right behind the console, loaded and ready to go! In a locked box they are useless in a real life and death situation. My 12 gauge defender sits on the floor in the cargo liner right behind the front seats. Loaded and round in the chamber, 18 inch barrel so I can reach back and have it in seconds. Taures judge in my pickup loaded with triple ought buck and special disc and buckshot mix. Every other one style. 12 gauge is double ought buck, then slug in alternating fashion. All my guns are always loaded as it always the unloaded gun that accidentally shoots someone. There is very little crime where I live, very seldom lock my vehicles. All our pickups set at work and we never lock them, and keys are always in the ignition.

Then why the arsenal?
12-29-2011 08:18 PM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by jk wrangler fan View Post
Bestop. Every little bump it makes a metal to metal contact noise. I put electric tape around the latch and put felt pads at each corner of contacts per recommendation of a few members on here. The pads eventually fell off so I need to put some more back on. Great item but yes, the noise when going over bumps is annoying.
Never a sound out of mine..
12-29-2011 06:04 PM
jk wrangler fan
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
Mine is silent so far.



Why?
They may decide to take the whole car.
12-29-2011 06:00 PM
jk wrangler fan
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
What noise? Is yours a Bestop or a Tuffy (only ones I know of...)?
Bestop. Every little bump it makes a metal to metal contact noise. I put electric tape around the latch and put felt pads at each corner of contacts per recommendation of a few members on here. The pads eventually fell off so I need to put some more back on. Great item but yes, the noise when going over bumps is annoying.
12-29-2011 02:52 PM
rockjock1
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSCRUDE
My pistols lay right behind the console, loaded and ready to go! In a locked box they are useless in a real life and death situation. My 12 gauge defender sits on the floor in the cargo liner right behind the front seats. Loaded and round in the chamber, 18 inch barrel so I can reach back and have it in seconds. Taures judge in my pickup loaded with triple ought buck and special disc and buckshot mix. Every other one style. 12 gauge is double ought buck, then slug in alternating fashion. All my guns are always loaded as it always the unloaded gun that accidentally shoots someone. There is very little crime where I live, very seldom lock my vehicles. All our pickups set at work and we never lock them, and keys are always in the ignition.
While that's fine and dandy-it's also, IMHO, irresponsible as a gun owner. I carry everywhere I can (legally). And when times arise that I can't (recruiter station, county jail, grandmas house)-I need to lock my gun away securely. I have several options that I currently use and trust-and have tested myself. One of the first things is-don't draw attention to people walking by that there is something of value to be had in the first place. Leaving a grout in plain view-just a bad decision (again-IMHO). And certain states-even with a ccw-that's a felony charge if you're stopped/inspected.
12-29-2011 02:46 PM
KSCRUDE My pistols lay right behind the console, loaded and ready to go! In a locked box they are useless in a real life and death situation. My 12 gauge defender sits on the floor in the cargo liner right behind the front seats. Loaded and round in the chamber, 18 inch barrel so I can reach back and have it in seconds. Taures judge in my pickup loaded with triple ought buck and special disc and buckshot mix. Every other one style. 12 gauge is double ought buck, then slug in alternating fashion. All my guns are always loaded as it always the unloaded gun that accidentally shoots someone. There is very little crime where I live, very seldom lock my vehicles. All our pickups set at work and we never lock them, and keys are always in the ignition.
12-29-2011 02:21 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by the rock99 View Post
I don't know about the Bestop but on the Tuffy whether or not you can see it from outside depends on how long your legs are (longer legs = seat slid back further), you can see the pull tab on mine.
Good point. You can't see mine from the outside of the Jeep--I'm a touch over 5'9".
12-29-2011 02:18 PM
the rock99 I don't know about the Bestop but on the Tuffy whether or not you can see it from outside depends on how long your legs are (longer legs = seat slid back further), you can see the pull tab on mine.
12-29-2011 02:18 PM
Up Hill Bill Main difference I've found between Bestop, which I have, and Tuffy, which I wish I had, is how far the drawer opens for access.

Here are photos of a Bestop and a Tuffy. Both fully open. Both with S&W 686 .375s (K-frame) with 6" bbls.

Note; how much more accessible the revolver is in the Tuffy:

Bestop:
Attachment 86229

Tuffy:
Attachment 86230
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