|01-31-2008 04:06 PM|
|01-31-2008 03:55 PM|
Here is a thread with a couple of pics - http://www.wranglerforum.com/jk-jeep...ures-8963.html
And another - http://www.wranglerforum.com/jk-jeep...ted-11212.html
Jack - I saw the AO ad in the back of the March JP Mag, nice.
|01-31-2008 03:25 PM|
|01-30-2008 10:04 PM|
|orange05tj||I dont have any of the above lifts, but a friend of mine had the Clayton 5.5 LA installed at their shop, and I was beyond impressed with it. If I only had the big $$$ to get one. Someday....|
|01-30-2008 09:55 PM|
|Jase||Jack, Joe or Hackle, do you have any pics of the RK kit installed on a 4-door Rubi? Side shots, front, underneath, flexing, etc?|
|01-30-2008 05:43 PM|
I have seen the RK kits and I know they work and work well. The others I have no experience with. I have installed a couple RK kits also the welding is very limited and the kit is well thought out.
|01-30-2008 05:19 PM|
Personally I don't like what Clayton's setup does with the rear trac bar. To me it looks like they are dropping the mount on the axle end like a TJ needs. The JK's are the exact opposite. The bracket needs to be weld on and at the axle end to move the trac bar mount up. RK has re-engineered this to be stronger. There are a lot of busted trac-bar brackets that show up at the shop.
Joe has been having issues with his site and this site on his laptop. We are also right in the middle of moving his shop to a bigger 5k square foot shop.
EDIT: yes I have personally seen the setups you have mentioned. RK is still the best you can buy.
|01-30-2008 12:07 PM|
|Odd is he||
Clayton is local company here...
I have seen many rigs around here rolling around on clayton kits.... they are a very solid kit.
My vote is for clayton
|01-30-2008 10:22 AM|
I just called Clayton's.. they do use Johnny Joints on flex points and a clevite bushing on the axle ends. The rear uppers have JJs on both ends. The front uppers have a 2" JJ built in-house (not Curries).
Full Traction uses "4130 Cromoly Heim Joints" and is fully bolt-on.
I do not know what RK uses for joints. I also learned the RK needs welding of the Rear Cradle, Rear Third Link Mount and Rear Shock Relocation Brackets
|01-30-2008 10:06 AM|
|Jase||what? = bad|
|01-30-2008 10:06 AM|
|Jase||BTW... feel free to vote based on the reputation of the company or on the parts you see here. I know you guys are not running these set-ups on JKs. Just let me know what you vote & why, please.|
|01-30-2008 10:05 AM|
|Scout||Johnny Joints = Good.|
|01-30-2008 10:01 AM|
I would have to call to verify.. I know I read from them they "Used a rubber bushing frame side, and a heim joint axle side" but I believe that was regarding a ?trackbar? I saw on their FAQ for other kits that JJs can be rebuilt, so that would lead me to believe they use them.
Are Johnny Joints good or bad?
|01-29-2008 09:21 PM|
|Scout||I can't tell from that picture and I couldn't find it on their website but does the Clayton kit use Johnny Joints?|
|01-29-2008 09:18 PM|
|AzTJ||Rock Krawler, and for one reason alone... solid stock control arms.|
|01-29-2008 08:08 PM|
RK vs Clayton - most opinions wanted
I havent seen Joe around for a while, so I'm going to throw this out to the masses for some help. I am getting very close to getting a suspension lift for the new heep. The two I am currently debating are 1. RockKrawler JK 3.5 X FACTOR PLUS MID ARM SYSTEM and 2. Clayton Off Road Mfg. JK 3.5 (Full Traction is a possible 3rd). Since I am still a complete newb to suspensions, what puts one of these over the other? RK is cheaper & has shock relocation brackets, but I do not know if new shocks are required. CORM sells Bilstein 5100s for another $320. CORM is completely bolt-on, which means I could do all of the work myself. I do not know if RK is bolt-on or if welding is required. What else would I need with either of these kits?
1. RockKrawler JK 3.5 X FACTOR PLUS MID ARM SYSTEM
$1699.00 from Absolute Offroad
2. Clayton Off Road Mfg. JK 3.5
$1,899.00 from Clayton Offroad Mfg.
OR should I ditch both of these and get the Full Traction 3" Ultimate kit for $1774.95... which includes: